4-6th pick

[SacKingZZZ]

Arguably, there was talent there--at least in 08. But I think part of the reason we took JT relates to why it took so long to blow it up and rebuild--we didn't want to wait to get better.

But if we had taken Ibaka instead of JT, we'd be much better off now.

Of course, it's also possible we just were never interested in Ibaka as a player--which wouldn't really surprise me.

We've had the argument before, we'll have hit again, Ibaka is awesome at what he does and this team NOW with the talent it has would be an awesome thing if Ibaka were on it but put Ibaka on the Bobcats, see how far they go.

It's all questionable still, a crap shoot. Who knows who will pan out, and you could still say that Hawes and JT were very solid picks for where they were drafted, in the draft they were drafted in. You just can't expect to get a Demarcus Cousins that late in the greatest of drafts.

[pillwenney]

We're arguing Ibaka vs. JT. Put JT on the Bobcats and see how far they go.

It's one thing when you're talking about a guy like Sullinger, but JT was never going to be a franchise big. Just because he was better offensively (not really any more) doesn't mean he would help the team more.

It just strikes me as an overly safe pick because we wanted to get better more quickly, not only was Ibaka not going to come over for a year, but I don't think anyone thought he would get as good as he did as quickly as he did.

But for the record, both Davis and Ibaka would make the Bobcats better immediately. It's just a matter of extent. But they had the second worse defense in the league last year, and although the situation would be worse, Ibaka is a game changer defensively.

[SacKingZZZ]

We're arguing Ibaka vs. JT. Put JT on the Bobcats and see how far they go.

It's one thing when you're talking about a guy like Sullinger, but JT was never going to be a franchise big. Just because he was better offensively (not really any more) doesn't mean he would help the team more.

It just strikes me as an overly safe pick because we wanted to get better more quickly, not only was Ibaka not going to come over for a year, but I don't think anyone thought he would get as good as he did as quickly as he did.

But for the record, both Davis and Ibaka would make the Bobcats better immediately. It's just a matter of extent. But they had the second worse defense in the league last year, and although the situation would be worse, Ibaka is a game changer defensively.

No we're not. I was saying that you can't typically find franchise talent that deep, and you typically can't. You brought up Ibaka as an argument that there was talent that deep and I personally do not consider Ibaka franchise talent, either/or, neither are franchise talent.

[pillwenney]

Oh I don't think he's franchise talent either. But it's still a mistake we made, due in part probably to how we scout players, and what our priorities were at the time.

[SacKingZZZ]

Oh, I certainly agree. They reached for Thompson, although he's done well for himself, and closed the door on the obvious physical talents of players like McGee and Ibaka, but there were no locks beyond 6-7 players. Good example that year of why it would have been much better to have "sucked sooner" and be in that 1-5 range as opposed to 10-15. Of course you can't look at it that way because maybe this team wouldn't have been a position to draft the players they have now, which I'm overall quite satisfied in how it turned out.

A lot of teams at the top of the draft are heading into the stage of their development where they have had a lot of picks in recent years to reload and that does have an effect in a draft where talent separation is partially subject to interpretation. We'll see what happens in workouts and the combine, but I think you could realistically see 3-4 different players for any given pick with different factors weighing in on the end result.

[SacKingZZZ]

Good interview with Henson, great write up on him as well. If you're a team in desperate need of the most talent you can get look elsewhere, if your the Kings who have that base covered, here's one of your main targets:

John on his strengths as a player:

“I think the biggest strength to my game is the ability to impact it without having to have the ball, or to have plays running through me. I can have as much, or more, of an impact on the game defensively and rebounding as I can scoring.”

http://www.nbadraftblog.com/2012-articles/may/nba-draft-blog-interview-with-john-henson.html

[LeBron's Time]

henson was too thin to played pf in the nba (tayshun prince body), hes not a shooter to played sf as well. this team need sf who can hit 3's or bigman who can defend both pf and center.

[SacKingZZZ]

He played against plenty legit sized NBA PF types and he did just fine from what I saw. He's thin, but he makes up for it a little with his length. He's really tall enough to be a center but I think his frame might be a problem there, at PF? Nah, there just aren't too many big bruising PF's these days.

[dozencousins]

Its been awhile since I posted hope you all are doing well ?

Anyways can anyone tell me when the draft lottery is ? I know its soon as its usually at halftime of one of the western conference final games ? Your help is appreciated .

thank you

[KF10]

Its been awhile since I posted hope you all are doing well ?

Anyways can anyone tell me when the draft lottery is ? I know its soon as its usually at halftime of one of the western conference final games ? Your help is appreciated .

thank you

The 2012 NBA Draft Lottery will be held in New York on Wednesday, May 30, and will be televised on ESPN at 8:00 p.m. ET, before Game 2 of the Eastern Conference Finals.

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2 ... z1vwKuVqNn

[dozencousins]

Its been awhile since I posted hope you all are doing well ?

Anyways can anyone tell me when the draft lottery is ? I know its soon as its usually at halftime of one of the western conference final games ? Your help is appreciated .

thank you

The 2012 NBA Draft Lottery will be held in New York on Wednesday, May 30, and will be televised on ESPN at 8:00 p.m. ET, before Game 2 of the Eastern Conference Finals.

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2 ... z1vwKuVqNn

Thank you for the reply & info KF10 its appreciated .

[SadKingsFan]

We're arguing Ibaka vs. JT. Put JT on the Bobcats and see how far they go.

It's one thing when you're talking about a guy like Sullinger, but JT was never going to be a franchise big. Just because he was better offensively (not really any more) doesn't mean he would help the team more.

It just strikes me as an overly safe pick because we wanted to get better more quickly, not only was Ibaka not going to come over for a year, but I don't think anyone thought he would get as good as he did as quickly as he did.

But for the record, both Davis and Ibaka would make the Bobcats better immediately. It's just a matter of extent. But they had the second worse defense in the league last year, and although the situation would be worse, Ibaka is a game changer defensively.

100% agreed.