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Joe Johnson and Boozer to Brooklyn 

Post#1 » by monsterblock » Sat May 26, 2012 10:41 am

Joe Johnson for Morrow

Boozer for Humphries

C: Lopez
PF: Boozer
SF: Wallace
SG: Joe
PG: Deron
6th: Marshawn

would this be good enough to convince Deron to stay?
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Post#2 » by jeff1624 » Sat May 26, 2012 10:56 am

I'd rather have Humphries... and Johnson has the worst contract in the NBA. No thanks.
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Post#3 » by dtown8 » Sat May 26, 2012 10:59 am

Brooklyn should just say good bye to Deron and prepare for a 10 year rebuild (5 year rebuild if Brooklyn gets the #1 pick). no point in getting a pretender playoff team with a core of Lopez, Boozer, Joe, and Deron
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Post#4 » by therealbig3 » Sat May 26, 2012 11:01 am

I wouldn't want to do this based on principle alone...these might be the two most annoying guys to watch in the league...

I'm a Tim Duncan fan, and Joe Johnson bores the hell out of me, and he keeps chucking up midrange jumper after midrange jumper after 3pt jumper. When people talk about how Atlanta's offense is so stagnant and it's basically just a bunch of isos...Joe Johnson is mainly the guy they're talking about.

Boozer, I don't think I have to explain, I'm pretty sure he annoys everybody.
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Post#5 » by therealbig3 » Sat May 26, 2012 11:02 am

dtown8 wrote:Brooklyn should just say good bye to Deron and prepare for a 10 year rebuild. 5 year rebuild if Brooklyn gets the #1 pick.


You realize that if the Nets get the #1 pick, they can either take Davis or trade for Howard right?

And yes, trading for Howard would basically be up to the Nets at that point. Orlando would be foolish to consider anything else if the Nets are offering Anthony Davis.
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Post#6 » by dtown8 » Sat May 26, 2012 11:06 am

therealbig3 wrote:
dtown8 wrote:Brooklyn should just say good bye to Deron and prepare for a 10 year rebuild. 5 year rebuild if Brooklyn gets the #1 pick.


You realize that if the Nets get the #1 pick, they can either take Davis or trade for Howard right?

And yes, trading for Howard would basically be up to the Nets at that point. Orlando would be foolish to consider anything else if the Nets are offering Anthony Davis.


even if Davis is as good as Durant, it still took Durant 5 years to get good, and the Magic owner already stated that he wants vets in return to stay competitive.
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Post#7 » by therealbig3 » Sat May 26, 2012 11:12 am

dtown8 wrote:
therealbig3 wrote:
dtown8 wrote:Brooklyn should just say good bye to Deron and prepare for a 10 year rebuild. 5 year rebuild if Brooklyn gets the #1 pick.


You realize that if the Nets get the #1 pick, they can either take Davis or trade for Howard right?

And yes, trading for Howard would basically be up to the Nets at that point. Orlando would be foolish to consider anything else if the Nets are offering Anthony Davis.


even if Davis is as good as Durant, it still took Durant 5 years to get good, and the Magic owner already stated that he wants vets in return to stay competitive.


Durant was "good" his 2nd year in the league, and he became a bona fide superstar by his 3rd, WTF are you smoking?

And regardless of what the Magic owner said, it's just common sense, if you're being offered Anthony Davis for a player that wants to leave anyway, and whose value has gone way down at this point...you take that offer and run. And it's certainly a better offer than whatever anyone else can give them.

And btw, as far as veterans go, Gerald Wallace would probably be included, who the Magic front office apparently likes a lot.
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Post#8 » by NyCeEvO » Sat May 26, 2012 11:13 am

Yes, it would be enough, but it can't happen anyway.

JJ for Morrow can't happen because the salary disparity is too great. The maximum incoming salary the Nets can take is 150% of the outgoing salary, plus $100,000. JJ's salary is more than 400% greater than Morrow's.

Boozer would have to be S&T for Humphries.

Also, we'd have to pay an unfathomable amount of luxury tax for that team and I doubt Proky would want to do that.
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Post#9 » by dtown8 » Sat May 26, 2012 11:21 am

therealbig3 wrote:
dtown8 wrote:
therealbig3 wrote:
You realize that if the Nets get the #1 pick, they can either take Davis or trade for Howard right?

And yes, trading for Howard would basically be up to the Nets at that point. Orlando would be foolish to consider anything else if the Nets are offering Anthony Davis.


even if Davis is as good as Durant, it still took Durant 5 years to get good, and the Magic owner already stated that he wants vets in return to stay competitive.


Durant was "good" his 2nd year in the league, and he became a bona fide superstar by his 3rd, WTF are you smoking?

And regardless of what the Magic owner said, it's just common sense, if you're being offered Anthony Davis for a player that wants to leave anyway, and whose value has gone way down at this point...you take that offer and run. And it's certainly a better offer than whatever anyone else can give them.

And btw, as far as veterans go, Gerald Wallace would probably be included, who the Magic front office apparently likes a lot.


what the hell are you talking about, Durant didn't become a legit MVP candidate just this year, and it took the Thunder FIVE years to become a real CONTENDER, and that was with Durant and getting lucky enough to get a steal like Westbrook four years ago.

you are high or rtardd if you think Anthony Davis and the Nets can be a serious contender in two years. :lol:
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Post#10 » by NyCeEvO » Sat May 26, 2012 11:32 am

^Your first statement you said "it still took Durant 5 years to get good" and are now saying "Durant didn't become a legit MVP candidate just this year".

Are you implying that the only good players are legit MVP candidates?

Also, it took OKC 5 years because they didn't have anything to start with. If you're referring to a team that just drafted what they hope to be their franchise player then yes, it would take 5 years. For a team that already has a star player and a center who (does have deficiencies but) scores with the best of them, it wouldn't take 5 years for the Nets to actually become a pretty good playoff team.

If they were to add other pieces to a core of Anthony Davis, D-WIll, Lopez, Wallace core, then they could very well become one of the better teams in the conference.
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Post#11 » by sixeleven » Sat May 26, 2012 11:37 am

NyCeEvO wrote:^Your first statement you said "it still took Durant 5 years to get good" and are now saying "Durant didn't become a legit MVP candidate just this year".

Are you implying that the only good players are legit MVP candidates?

Also, it took OKC 5 years because they didn't have anything to start with. If you're referring to a team that just drafted what they hope to be their franchise player then yes, it would take 5 years. For a team that already has a star player and a center who (does have deficiencies but) scores with the best of them, it wouldn't take 5 years for the Nets to actually become a pretty good playoff team.

If they were to add other pieces to a core of Anthony Davis, D-WIll, Lopez, Wallace core, then they could very well become one of the better teams in the conference.


Deron is not staying just for Anthony Davis. if the Nets can get Shabazz the next year, then maybe the Nets can be taken seriously in 4 or 5 years.
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Post#12 » by NyCeEvO » Sat May 26, 2012 12:11 pm

sixeleven wrote:
NyCeEvO wrote:^Your first statement you said "it still took Durant 5 years to get good" and are now saying "Durant didn't become a legit MVP candidate just this year".

Are you implying that the only good players are legit MVP candidates?

Also, it took OKC 5 years because they didn't have anything to start with. If you're referring to a team that just drafted what they hope to be their franchise player then yes, it would take 5 years. For a team that already has a star player and a center who (does have deficiencies but) scores with the best of them, it wouldn't take 5 years for the Nets to actually become a pretty good playoff team.

If they were to add other pieces to a core of Anthony Davis, D-WIll, Lopez, Wallace core, then they could very well become one of the better teams in the conference.


Deron is not staying just for Anthony Davis. if the Nets can get Shabazz the next year, then maybe the Nets can be taken seriously in 4 or 5 years.

I agree...which is why I included Wallace wasn't with the Nets for most of the season, and Lopez who missed all but 5 games. The Nets would be a completely different team than they were last year if they had a solid 2nd and 3rd option to go to.

D-Will even said that to the GM that when Lopez is playing, they're a completely different team.
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Post#13 » by 624 » Sat May 26, 2012 3:53 pm

Gut our cap space to be mediocre? No thanks.
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Post#14 » by orlandomanic » Sat May 26, 2012 6:38 pm

monsterblock wrote:Joe Johnson for Morrow

Boozer for Humphries

C: Lopez
PF: Boozer
SF: Wallace
SG: Joe
PG: Deron
6th: Marshawn

would this be good enough to convince Deron to stay?


No, it wouldn't work.... Deron is as good as gone.
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Post#15 » by therealbig3 » Sat May 26, 2012 9:07 pm

dtown8 wrote:what the hell are you talking about, Durant didn't become a legit MVP candidate just this year, and it took the Thunder FIVE years to become a real CONTENDER, and that was with Durant and getting lucky enough to get a steal like Westbrook four years ago.


Durant finished 2nd in MVP voting in his 3rd year. Then he finished 5th in his 4th year, and 2nd again in his 5th year. So this isn't the first year he was a legit MVP candidate...like I said, he became a bona fide superstar by his 3rd year in the league.

The Thunder in 10 won 50 games and made it to the 2nd round, and went 6 games against the eventual champs. In 11, they won 55 games and made it to the Conference Finals, and lost to the eventual champs. They've been a legit contender since last year, and they were a very good team since 2010. You're just speaking out of your ass right now.

dtown8 wrote:you are high or rtardd if you think Anthony Davis and the Nets can be a serious contender in two years.


Never said that, I actually said that if they get Anthony Davis, they'd probably trade him to Orlando for Dwight, and I explained why Orlando would do that deal.

And Deron Williams has said that he would welcome the opportunity to play with Anthony Davis. So even if we decide to keep Anthony Davis, there's still a chance we keep Deron.

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Post#16 » by Born_Ready » Sun May 27, 2012 12:01 am

I say no to both. After they both got huge contracts they were never the same player (Boozer has always been overrated).

I don't want to see this team go into a salary cap waste; just to appease (D)iva (W)illiams. Who I think is good as gone anyways.
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Post#17 » by VCRJKidd15 » Sun May 27, 2012 2:43 am

RealGM trolls are the worst. It's like they make themselves look re.tarded on purpose Is this the cool thing to do now?
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Post#18 » by BlueDawn » Sun May 27, 2012 3:15 am

VCRJKidd15 wrote:RealGM trolls are the worst. It's like they make themselves look re.tarded on purpose Is this the cool thing to do now?


Seriously, where do these people come from...
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Post#19 » by JKNICKS67 » Tue May 29, 2012 9:12 pm

I think you'd be better off going will al jefferson to pair with brook. Al Jeff posting up down low with brook on the block and his midrange game would be a devastating inside out tandem.
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Post#20 » by NyCeEvO » Tue May 29, 2012 9:18 pm

JKNICKS67 wrote:I think you'd be better off going will al jefferson to pair with brook. Al Jeff posting up down low with brook on the block and his midrange game would be a devastating inside out tandem.

And we'd be devastatingly bad on defense.

Overall, we'd be a better team by adding Jefferson, but he wouldn't help to put us in real contention.

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