Summer 2012 Free Agents Thread - Part II

[mohammed10]

I'd be very happy to have Hibbert. He'd be an upgrade over Nene. I'd definitely part with some other young guys (Crawford/Singleton/Vesely/Seraphin) too for Hibbert. Though if Hibbert's on the market, they'll get a better offer then that.

OJ Mayo has probably already been discussed, but for what its worth, I think he'd be a solid target. Memphis is in no position to match which drives his value down off the bat, then he had a bad showing this season in the playoffs, and has really had a bad two seasons since Memphis signed Tony Allen and moved him to the bench. I think he'll get signficantly less than Eric Gordon. I'd be willing to spend up to $9-10M of Ted's money a season on Mayo for 4 years max.

He has a nice all around game and will contribute in a bunch of areas (loose balls, rebounding, defense, fascilitating). Mayo played 10% of his minutes at PG last season, so he can handle the ball a little bit. I think OJ Mayo will re-emerge where ever he ends up next season.

If Mayo ends up without any S&T value:

Wall/mack
mayo/Crawford
MKG/Singleton/Vesely
Booker/Seraphin
Nene

If you have to give up something like Crawford/Singleton to get Mayo, I'd be fine with that. Bring back Cartier martin to back up the 2/3. Give vesely minutes depending on his production at 3/4. Let seraphin, booker, and nene play 30 mins each at 4/5. Then in 2013 we have a 10-18 range pick and a decent amount of cap space --wont quote numbers since I probably have them wrong--to make more adjustments.

IDK - Without any statistical info to back up my claim, I think that Gordon is a deadlier shooter. Also, Mayo is not exactly known to have a high BBIQ (a long standing problem on this here basketball team).

All things being equal, I would target E Gordon over OJ Mayo.

Offer Gordon 4 yrs, 45-50 million of Ted's money. If he declines, go after Mayo for far less - something like 4 years, 28-30 million. If we get neither, go after Bradley Beal in the draft (over Michael Kidd-Gilchrist).

Thoughts?

[7-Day Dray]

Just a thought. Would you guys do a S&T for Hibbert? Likely involving Nene? I would assume Indy would be willing to re-sign him but I haven't read anything indicating its a sure thing or just a formality. Also I know Nene was a guy that Indy pushed hard for last year before settling on David West.

If we got Davis, then yes. Hibbert's PNR defense is as bad as McGee's.

[Dat2U]

I've never been impressed with Mayo. From seeing him up close during summer league his rookie year to now, I don't understand what the fuss is about.

He's a just a guy IMO. He's no better than a reserve. He can't get to the rim, he's not a knock down shooter. He's only a so-so decision maker with the ball in his hands. He's a marginal defender. He's not really a PG or SG. I wouldn't even consider him to be honest.

No one is giving this dude more than $5-6 mil per season. And even at that price, it's a deal that will be filled with regret because Mayo is probably worth more like $2 or $3 million

[popper]

I like Ilyasova even though we are heavy with PF's. If we could sign him for say $18 M over 3 years and trade Booker for a round one pick or starting wing player I think we'd improve the team a lot.

[SUPERBALLMAN]

I like Ilyasova even though we are heavy with PF's. If we could sign him for say $18 M over 3 years and trade Booker for a round one pick or starting wing player I think we'd improve the team a lot.

I like Ilyasova alot. Don't see it if we get either Davis or Robinson in the draft, but if we get Beal or even MKG I'd love to get him. Him and Batum are at the top of my list.

[willbcocks]

Why on earth would Indy trade hibbert for Nene? Would we be swapping picks with them?

[Illuminaire]

Why on earth would we trade Nene for Hibbert? Would Indy be giving us a pick?

[Ruzious]

Why on earth would we trade Nene for Hibbert? Would Indy be giving us a pick?

If the Wiz did, it'd be for the long-term because of youth and health. Short-term, Nene's a little better, and his ability to switch between PF and C is a major plus for le Wiz. And Nene's a better fit for his effect on Seraphin and ability to step out and hit mid-range jumpers.

[closg00]

Craig Brackens anyone.....as a camp invite?

[Rafael122]

HYPOTHETICAL. Assuming Charlotte takes Kidd-Gilchrist and the Wizards take Beal, should we even target another shooting guard in free agency?

[fishercob]

HYPOTHETICAL. Assuming Charlotte takes Kidd-Gilchrist and the Wizards take Beal, should we even target another shooting guard in free agency?

Sure. Beal is just a baby; he's going to take a year or two to adjust and come into his own. Look at Harden's stats and he played 2 or 3 years of college.

I'd go after JJ Redick. Offer Lewis for TUrkoglu, Redick and a protected future first.

[Benjammin]

If Wiz do take Beal, they'll have a bigger hole at the 3 (Singleton, Martin?) than at the 2 (Beal, Crawford).

[long suffrin' boulez fan]

I'm on the over pay for Batum bandwagon at this point. Make an offer that the Portlandias won't match and run with...

Wall/Mack/Crawford
Beal/crawford/Jenkins
Batum/Singleton/Martin
Booker/Vesley/J. Singleton
Nene/Seraphin

Maybe Martin slides in front of Chris Singleton to give us enough shooting on the first two units.

Does that team sneak into the playoffs? Maybe, probably not... But it has some young upside, some badly needed balance, and a bunch of guys willing to go at it at the defensive end.

If we could flip Crawford for a suitable back up point... Or for cap room, so much the better.

[theboomking]

I'm on the over pay for Batum bandwagon at this point. Make an offer that the Portlandias won't match and run with...

Wall/Mack/Crawford
Beal/crawford/Jenkins
Batum/Singleton/Martin
Booker/Vesley/J. Singleton
Nene/Seraphin

Maybe Martin slides in front of Chris Singleton to give us enough shooting on the first two units.

Does that team sneak into the playoffs? Maybe, probably not... But it has some young upside, some badly needed balance, and a bunch of guys willing to go at it at the defensive end.

If we could flip Crawford for a suitable back up point... Or for cap room, so much the better.

I may be on that same bandwagon. In any case, regardless of how I feel, we definitely make a run at Batum. He fits exactly what this team needs, great in transition, terrific athlete, very good defender, very good outside shooter. We might land him, but I would be pretty stunned if we don't even try.

[long suffrin' boulez fan]

^ EG is our GM. Ted is our owner.

[nate33]

HYPOTHETICAL. Assuming Charlotte takes Kidd-Gilchrist and the Wizards take Beal, should we even target another shooting guard in free agency?

We should target a sharpshooting small forward, or at least a wing that can play both SG and SF. Somebody like Danny Green or Brandon Rush.

[willbcocks]

I'd target Batum and Fields. I wouldn't even mind signing both if we could, but Batum would be the luxury option, fields the standard.

Both could play 2 or 3, have the right attitude, and play both sides of the ball. Fields needs to recover his shot but I think he will. Even though he's an RFA, NY is restricted in their ability to pay him, as they have to use their MLE on Lin, and then they'll be bumping up against the hard cap.

[Dat2U]

With the Wizards missing out on Davis, I think I'd pass on adding pricey role players like Danny Green, Courtney Lee, Landry Fields, etc...

If we can land an above average starter in free agency, I'd say go for it. If Beal is the choice, we've still got a gaping hole at SF. If MKG is the choice, then SG is a huge issue. Either way, acquiring role players only eats up valuable cap room when were still not ready to contend.

And I would also put PF as a position that we need to address as well. I like the Nene/Seraphin combo at C & Nene can play PF in spots but I still think an upgrade should be considered. And even if MKG is not the pick, I still ike the idea of having a stretch 4 like Ilyasova to really open up spacing offensively.

[LyricalRico]

I still ike the idea of having a stretch 4

Won't Jamison will be UFA?

[nate33]

With the Wizards missing out on Davis, I think I'd pass on adding pricey role players like Danny Green, Courtney Lee, Landry Fields, etc...

If we can land an above average starter in free agency, I'd say go for it. If Beal is the choice, we've still got a gaping hole at SF. If MKG is the choice, then SG is a huge issue. Either way, acquiring role players only eats up valuable cap room when were still not ready to contend.

And I would also put PF as a position that we need to address as well. I like the Nene/Seraphin combo at C & Nene can play PF in spots but I still think an upgrade should be considered. And even if MKG is not the pick, I still ike the idea of having a stretch 4 like Ilyasova to really open up spacing offensively.

Bear in mind that if we spend less than $5M on a role player like Green or Rush, it would still leave us with maximum cap room next summer (assuming we dump or amnesty Blatche at some point).

The way I see it, we have the cap room to add one quality starter/star plus one role player over the next two years. There may not be a quality starter/star available in free agency this year, but there are certainly a lot of role playing wings. Why not add one now? What's the benefit in waiting?