Heisley to Avoid Luxury Tax

Post #1 » by **SD2042** » Tue May 15, 2012 10:28 pm

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/22 ... Luxury_Tax

GrizzledGrizzFan · Post #2 » by **GrizzledGrizzFan** » Wed May 16, 2012 2:00 am

One of two possible outcomes:

"Big 4" (Zach, Marc, Rudy, Mike) stay intact and Wallace surrounds them with TA and a six pack of lightning in a bottle. Most likely DA, Speights and OJ are all gone.

Move one of the four - most likely try to move Rudy - for picks, pieces and cap space to fill out the roster.

Fun times.

Sarcastic yay...

Post #3 » by **jman3134** » Thu May 17, 2012 2:40 pm

If we are going to move Rudy, let's do it for MKG. At this point, their values are similar, and we may be able to add someone else to that mix because Rudy is able to play at a borderline allstar level during the regular season and has a lot of untapped potential still.

We better not get rid of Tony Allen, Marc Gasol, or Zach Randolph. Those players are indispensable imo.

Stannis · Post #4 » by **Stannis** » Fri May 18, 2012 10:27 pm

jman3134 wrote:If we are going to move Rudy, let's do it for MKG. At this point, their values are similar, and we may be able to add someone else to that mix because Rudy is able to play at a borderline allstar level during the regular season and has a lot of untapped potential still.

We better not get rid of Tony Allen, Marc Gasol, or Zach Randolph. Those players are indispensable imo.

MKG stands for?

Michael Kidd-Gilchrist?

Post #5 » by **jman3134** » Sat May 19, 2012 6:18 am

BLT · Post #6 » by **BLT** » Tue May 22, 2012 11:45 am

so a team is going to trade MKG who will be making 3-4 million the next 4 years. for Gay who is 10 years older and will be making 18 million the next 3 years? im sure teams will be **** themselves in hopes of getting this deal done.

vanjulio · Post #7 » by **vanjulio** » Wed May 23, 2012 2:43 pm

BLT wrote:so a team is going to trade MKG who will be making 3-4 million the next 4 years. for Gay who is 10 years older and will be making 18 million the next 3 years? im sure teams will be **** themselves in hopes of getting this deal done.

MKG is 15 years old? where do you get 18 million from? is that with playoff bonuses and endorsements?

Post #8 » by **SD2042** » Thu May 24, 2012 3:31 am

Makin this kid sound like LBJ Part 2.

ballislife · Post #9 » by **ballislife** » Thu May 31, 2012 5:43 am

Would you deal Gay for the 8th pick + cap space and a small filler i.e. James Johnson?

GrizzledGrizzFan · Post #10 » by **GrizzledGrizzFan** » Thu May 31, 2012 3:23 pm

ballislife wrote:Would you deal Gay for the 8th pick + cap space and a small filler i.e. James Johnson?

I wouldn't.

S.W.A.N · Post #11 » by **S.W.A.N** » Thu May 31, 2012 9:23 pm

GrizzledGrizzFan wrote:
ballislife wrote:Would you deal Gay for the 8th pick + cap space and a small filler i.e. James Johnson?

I wouldn't.

But do you think Grizz management would do it ?

You guys are going to make a move to reduce salary, that means moves most fans will be unhappy with. What realistic scenario is better than 8th pick and filler ?

Or do you think someone other than Gay is getting moved ?

GrizzledGrizzFan · Post #12 » by **GrizzledGrizzFan** » Thu May 31, 2012 11:42 pm

S.W.A.N wrote:But do you think Grizz management would do it ?

You guys are going to make a move to reduce salary, that means moves most fans will be unhappy with. What realistic scenario is better than 8th pick and filler ?

Or do you think someone other than Gay is getting moved ?

No, I don't believe the Grizz Front Office would act on that either.

If the move is just a pick and relief, it would likely have to be better than the 8th pick.

IF anyone is moved, Rudy is likely the one to go.

carlosey · Post #13 » by **carlosey** » Fri Jun 1, 2012 3:29 am

The problem is that if the idea is to move Gay then we are talking about a straight up salary dump. Dumping a max salary is the biggest get out of jail free card in the business. The team at the other end will be taking on the salary and that would be the value of the trade. I think its unlikely a team taking rudys max salary off heisleys hands will also be willing to give up more valuable assets as well. Im just sayin. Regardless, I think Rudy ends up being traded by draft night.

ballislife · Post #14 » by **ballislife** » Fri Jun 1, 2012 5:45 am

I really think Colangelo will be looking at a legit starting SF come draft night. If the Grizzlies really want to get rid of Gay, I think Toronto will be willing to give up Davis/8th pick to make it happen. It all depends on what the Grizzlies want in return. Toronto has 12 mill in cap space available and we can still amnesty Calderon who's expiring after the season to create an additional 10 mill in cap space... absorbing Gay won't be a problem if both teams come to an agreement revolving Gay.

vanjulio · Post #15 » by **vanjulio** » Fri Jun 1, 2012 7:02 pm

they're not going to "dump" a guy who they spend 6 years developing and building a team around. we dumped Pau Gasol and got back a lot of junk but multiple draft picks and assets. Ed Davis is no Kwame Brown that's all I'm saying and an 8th pick is not equal to the all the other "junk" we had in the Lakers trade. The Warriors dumped Monta Ellis salary and got back Andrew Bogut. Are you saying we are dumb enough to believe we can't get better than Ed Davis from someone else?

hey how about we make Bargnani for Haddadi swap? sound fair?

Jajwanda · Post #16 » by **Jajwanda** » Fri Jun 1, 2012 10:04 pm

L.A. would be interested once again in acquiring another Memphis product as a ticket seller alongside Bynum/Howard.

Not sure what kind of three-way deal can be done. Do you guys still want Igoudala or it's picks, space you want.