Do not Keep Nash, Preserve Cap...

[RunDogGun]

Brooks can not be S&T'ed. If he would have played just one game for us he would have been eligible. The new CBA states that a player must play for a team the season prior to the S&T. Coro pointed this out months ago.

Hence the reason I said mid-season. And of course we are nuts, that is why I said I'll play along.

So I looked it up, after all my insanity, we would have #6,#11,#14,#21,#22,#24,#33,#34 and that is even without buying a pick. And under contract we would have CV at $8 million, Chilly at $6.5 million, Frye at $6 million and Morris still on his rookie deal, and then whatever we sign Brooks at, I figure $5 million. That is about $27.5 for those five and the rest are on rookie deals. If we draft a couple of guys we can send overseas, we could spread out some of the rookies. Telfairwe can waive or keep, he is only partially guaranteed, and re-sign Redd for the same deal, and we have a pretty crappy, but young team.

If it fails, I have the pleasure of laughing at those that said rebuilding through the draft is the way to go, and if it doesn't, then I eat crow, and enjoy having a good team to continue to root for.

[DirtyDez]

Can we bring back Brooks for just one season or is he gone if another team offers him a multi-year deal? I thought he was restricted but the guys on the radio said he'll be a UFA this summer. Thx...

[RunDogGun]

Can we bring back Brooks for just one season or is he gone if another team offers him a multi-year deal? I thought he was restricted but the guys on the radio said he'll be a UFA this summer. Thx...

I thought he is still a RFA, we just can't do a S&Twith him. We can match any deal, or he could take the QO and be a UFA next year.

[DirtyDez]

Can we bring back Brooks for just one season or is he gone if another team offers him a multi-year deal? I thought he was restricted but the guys on the radio said he'll be a UFA this summer. Thx...

I thought he is still a RFA, we just can't do a S&Twith him. We can match any deal, or he could take the QO and be a UFA next year.

Hoping for the QO. I think it's best option for us if Nash leaves.

[RunDogGun]

The more I think about it, if we get the ninth pick from Detriot, we keep it. In the past we have drafted Marion and Amare at the ninth spot.

So my revised insanity, which is a bit more sane:

Trade Hak for CV and ninth pick, and either trade our pick to Boston for their two picks, and buy #33 from Cleveland for about $1.5 million or a future second. Or keep our pick and buy Cleveland's #24 for $3 million. That gives us #9,#21,#22,#33 or #9,#13,#24, and all we have to do is eat CV's contract for the next two years.

[RunDogGun]

I've also been wanting a backup PG with height. Maybe buy the #52 off of GSWs for $500k or so and draft Tomas Satoransky, a 6'6" PG/SG and leave him in Europe for another year or two.

[rsavaj]

While I agree that drafting well is a necessary part of building a contending team, I'm not a fan of "let's get as many draft picks as possible and fill our roster with 20 year olds!"

The OKC model is not one that can be replicated. They hit it out of the park on 4 picks, and whiffed on the rest. I do not see that happening again for a looooong, looooooong time.

Becoming Washington or Sacramento is a much, much more likely scenario.

[RunDogGun]

While I agree that drafting well is a necessary part of building a contending team, I'm not a fan of "let's get as many draft picks as possible and fill our roster with 20 year olds!"

The OKC model is not one that can be replicated. They hit it out of the park on 4 picks, and whiffed on the rest. I do not see that happening again for a looooong, looooooong time.

Becoming Washington or Sacramento is a much, much more likely scenario.

I agree, it was just fun to join in on the draftsanity. However, I don't mind taking on CV to get that ninth pick. As I stated before, that slot has done us well in the past, I wouldn't mind trying for a third time. Two picks would be nice, and buying a second rounder this year or trading a 2013 second to get one this draft wouldn't hurt.

[BobbieL]

I'll play along:

If we traded Gortat and Dudley for #6 and #11, we would free up a bunch of salary, so we do the Detriot CV and #9 for Warrick, we flip our #13 for Boston's two picks, and flip the #9 to Houston for their two picks #14 and #16 and buy either the Denver pick or the Cleveland pick both early twenties.

That gives us six to seven first rounders. Or we could also flip the #16 to Cleveland for their #24 and both their second rounders and still buy the Denver pick. We'd still have six first, but we also add two seconds. We sign Brooks, and trade him mid season for a future first, most likely a 2013, and we have a whole new team, with only big contracts in Chilldress, Frye, and CV. We resign Redd for cheap and have him and Chilldress run the two squads. If we suck, than Dez and The madman will be as happy as can be. If we don't, then we are OKC in a few years with a ton of cap space.

By the time our rookies come up for resign, all the teams will be so worried about the cap, that we sign them for Spur type contracts. Or better yet, draft a bunch of guys who are already teammates from college and see if their loyalty to each other keeps their contracts low.

As the Brits would say, "I'm naked!"

So you want to trade two good players in Gortat and Dudley for two draft picks - how do the Suns get better.

If you are trading an asset like Gortat or Dudley, then the other team better take a crappy contract like Childress and Frye. Suns have decent cap space this year - no need to totally blow things up.

[RunDogGun]

Bobbie, it wasn't my idea, just building on another's post where they traded Gortat and Dudley for Portland's #6 and #11 picks. Honestly, the only trade I want them to do is with Detriot, where we trade Warrick for CV and the #9, and then maybe buy a second rounder or trade for a second rounder and give up a second in 2013.

If we could grab a good SG and SF with the ninth and thirteenth picks and grab a PG with the second rounder, we'd cover some holes in the roster. Move Frye to back up center and CV as backup PF. If Nash stays then great, but if he goes, sign Brooks.

If Brooks does well, but doesn't seem like our PG of the future, we trade him mid season for a first next year. If we could pull off a good to great FA SG/SF, then things look good. If not, play young and get a decent pick for next year. We may just end up middle of the road again, but maybe the Brooks trade can get us higher in the lotto.

[JohnVancouver]

Nice work RDG


I really like and the 9 for warrick. Two years left on his deal?
There were times in TO where he looked like a fine player, and then .. pfffffffft. maybe his interest can be rekindled

[RunDogGun]

Nice work RDG


I really like and the 9 for warrick. Two years left on his deal?
There were times in TO where he looked like a fine player, and then .. pfffffffft. maybe his interest can be rekindled

Which work are you referring to? The one where I get us eight picks without having to buy one?
I don't know if getting CV will change him back to the player he should have become, and while having Hill and Nash would give us better chances to help turn him around, we most likely not have that chance.

CV's deal is a bit more than what Sarver would want, a ninth pick in this draft might help his image in PHX. But Detriot might go for it, seeing that CV only played thirteen games last year and averaged only thirteen minutes per game. Then they could wait out the year, and then amnesty BGordon, and be in a decent position to get a good FA. If they trade us CV and amnesty BG in 2013, they would shave $21 million off their books.