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Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 12

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Would you be happy if the Raptors drafted... (check all that apply)

Harrison Barnes
154
21%
Andre Drummond
90
12%
John Henson
7
1%
Perry Jones III
63
9%
Terrence Jones
22
3%
Jeremy Lamb
159
22%
Damian Lillard
80
11%
Kendall Marshall
52
7%
Austin Rivers
59
8%
Jared Sullinger
50
7%
 
Total votes: 736

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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 12 

Post#761 » by Twoism » Sun Jun 3, 2012 12:03 am

1. Lamb
2. Marshall

3. Lillard

4. Waiters
5. PJIII
6. Harkless
7. Ross
8. Sullinger
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 12 

Post#762 » by Fenris-77 » Sun Jun 3, 2012 12:08 am

1. Lillard
2. Lamb
3. Sullinger
4. Waiters
5. Ross
6. Marshall
7. Harkless
8. PJ3
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 12 

Post#763 » by LyNx » Sun Jun 3, 2012 12:49 am

Dr Mufasa wrote:POLL OF THE DAY:

Rank these players 1-8, by how much you'd want us to take them at 8: Lillard, Marshall, Lamb, Waiters, Ross, Harkless, PJIII, Sullinger


I'd go

1. Lamb
2. Lillard
3. Waiters
4. Sullinger
5. PJ3
6. Marshall
7. Ross
8. Harkless
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 12 

Post#764 » by JamesNaismith » Sun Jun 3, 2012 2:35 am

nelabai wrote:Can't wait for the draft combine, this pic can be misleading but no way T-Rob is 6-10, he doesn't even look 6-9

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Barnes is clearly slight leaned forward in front of both guys BUT all you need is some simple depth perception to see TRob looks shorter by a couple inches and he as well is slightly leaned in more than Drummond so he's gotta be 6 8' or 6 9'....which is what I guessed a while ago when I said he's Lebron's body double. Won't shock me when he measures 6'8 at best without shoes.


As for Mufasa's list:

1. Lamb (by far)
2. Sullinger
3. Waiters
4. Lillard
5. PJ3
6. Harkless
7. Ross
8. Marshall
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Post#765 » by comet883 » Sun Jun 3, 2012 2:53 am

Dr Mufasa wrote:POLL OF THE DAY:

Rank these players 1-8, by how much you'd want us to take them at 8: Lillard, Marshall, Lamb, Waiters, Ross, Harkless, PJIII, Sullinger


My choice
1. Lamb
2. PJ3
3. Marshall
4. Sullinger
5. Waiters
6. Ross
7. Lillard
8. Harkless
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 12 

Post#766 » by JamesNaismith » Sun Jun 3, 2012 3:25 am

I'm also trying to understand why Drummond dropped 20+pds...him being skinny doesn't work in his favor.
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 12 

Post#767 » by tdotrep2 » Sun Jun 3, 2012 4:07 am

Lambchops
Sully
Pj3
Lillard

Marshall
Waiters
Don't care
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 12 

Post#768 » by Alfred » Sun Jun 3, 2012 4:08 am

JamesNaismith wrote:I'm also trying to understand why Drummond dropped 20+pds...him being skinny doesn't work in his favor.


Probably so he can ace the combine and be super fluid in workouts.
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Post#769 » by FluLikeSymptoms » Sun Jun 3, 2012 2:55 pm

Alfred wrote:
JamesNaismith wrote:I'm also trying to understand why Drummond dropped 20+pds...him being skinny doesn't work in his favor.


Probably so he can ace the combine and be super fluid in workouts.


When I read this I was worried he only wanted to play PF, but Chad is saying he's at 268 now, down from 290. He didn't play at 290, he must have eaten the Easter Bunny or something and then worked it off. He hasn't played since March 15.
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 12 

Post#770 » by God Squad » Sun Jun 3, 2012 4:34 pm

nelabai wrote:Can't wait for the draft combine, this pic can be misleading but no way T-Rob is 6-10, he doesn't even look 6-9

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agreed, 6'8 maybe
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 12 

Post#771 » by MEDIC » Sun Jun 3, 2012 5:09 pm

Dr Mufasa wrote:POLL OF THE DAY:

Rank these players 1-8, by how much you'd want us to take them at 8: Lillard, Marshall, Lamb, Waiters, Ross, Harkless, PJIII, Sullinger

My choice
1. Lamb
2. Sullinger
3. PJIII
4. Marshall
5. Waiters
6. Lillard
7. Ross
8. Harkless


Your list is pretty much spot on with what my choices would be. PJ3 & Sully could be interchangable depending on measurements/ workouts.
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 12 

Post#772 » by Loso04 » Sun Jun 3, 2012 5:26 pm

Saw this on hoopsworld

That’s why the rumored offer of Cleveland’s two first-rounders going to Charlotte in exchange for the #2 likely is with some player other than Robinson in mind. The Bobcats are reportedly very interested in Drummond (though it’s a mystery as to why considering Bismack Biyombo, a center, is their most promising player), and Washington has been pegged as a good fit for Kidd-Gilchrist. If one of those two players ended up topping their boards, that could warrant a trade up.

Kidd-Gilchrist, one of the best transition players in college basketball last year, would be an awesome fit in Cleveland, especially since he seems much more like a career second-fiddle than a career alpha dog. He’ll do much better in a place like Cleveland or Washington than Charlotte or Toronto for that exact reason.

However, if the Cavs can’t swing that deal (and for the reasons listed at the top of this article regarding Robinson and the Bobcats, there’s a good chance they can’t), then Bob Finnan of the Morning Journal suggests they could pursue a deal with Portland that would swap the #4 and #24 for the Blazers’ #6 and #11 picks. In this scenario, Cleveland could use the #6 pick to select UConn guard Jeremy Lamb, who they reportedly see as a perfect complement to Irving in the Cavs’ backcourt.

There’s even the suggestion that if they can’t swing a deal, Cleveland might rate Lamb higher than Beal on their list of top shooting guards anyway, and based on early workouts that might not be as crazy as some fans think. Beal has reportedly been stiff and slow at workouts, and Lamb is generally considered to have a higher ceiling. The fourth pick might be a little high for him, but if the Blazers agreed to swing that deal, it could benefit both parties. At #4, Portland could get a player like Drummond or Harrison Barnes that might not have been available to them two picks later.
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 12 

Post#773 » by immaculatedx » Sun Jun 3, 2012 5:31 pm

Activated my account to say this:

Everyone on the Lamb bandwagon needs to seriously reevaluate. He's basically Gerald Green with a little better shooting.
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Post#774 » by fredericklove » Sun Jun 3, 2012 5:36 pm

immaculatedx wrote:Activated my account to say this:

Everyone on the Lamb bandwagon needs to seriously reevaluate. He's basically Gerald Green with a little better shooting.

How so? Care to share your brilliant insight?
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 12 

Post#775 » by Zeno » Sun Jun 3, 2012 5:52 pm

fredericklove wrote:
immaculatedx wrote:Activated my account to say this:

Everyone on the Lamb bandwagon needs to seriously reevaluate. He's basically Gerald Green with a little better shooting.

How so? Care to share your brilliant insight?


Wow Gerald Green is a strange choice of comparison. He's a good shooter who is way too thin with very long arms and a good handle. I think of him as the shooting guard version of Tayshaun Prince.
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 12 

Post#776 » by FluLikeSymptoms » Sun Jun 3, 2012 5:59 pm

Zeno wrote:
fredericklove wrote:
immaculatedx wrote:Activated my account to say this:

Everyone on the Lamb bandwagon needs to seriously reevaluate. He's basically Gerald Green with a little better shooting.

How so? Care to share your brilliant insight?


Wow Gerald Green is a strange choice of comparison. He's a good shooter who is way too thin with very long arms and a good handle. I think of him as the shooting guard version of Tayshaun Prince.


They look alike.
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 12 

Post#777 » by Marlo Stanfield » Sun Jun 3, 2012 6:03 pm

nelabai wrote:Can't wait for the draft combine, this pic can be misleading but no way T-Rob is 6-10, he doesn't even look 6-9

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If he's 6'8" it won't hurt him, but anything under that could see him drop. Even then, if you can play you can play, it's that simple. He didn't have trouble dropping over 15/15 in the title game against the undoubted #1 pick.

Dr Mufasa wrote:POLL OF THE DAY:

Rank these players 1-8, by how much you'd want us to take them at 8: Lillard, Marshall, Lamb, Waiters, Ross, Harkless, PJIII, Sullinger

My choice
1. Lamb
2. Sullinger
3. PJIII
4. Marshall
5. Waiters
6. Lillard
7. Ross
8. Harkless


1. Lamb
2. Waiters
3. Harkless
4. Ross
5. Sullinger
6. Lillard
7. PJIII
8. Marshall

JamesNaismith wrote:I'm also trying to understand why Drummond dropped 20+pds...him being skinny doesn't work in his favor.


He's not skinny though. All that does is make him more agile. Being 280+ is worse for him than being around 260. Now, not only is he HUGE but he can blow by other bigs and laterally move in front of them. If anything, it raises his stock.
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 12 

Post#778 » by FluLikeSymptoms » Sun Jun 3, 2012 6:51 pm

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This is T-Rob with Marcus Morris, who measured in at 6'7 w/o shoes.
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 12 

Post#779 » by neurotik » Sun Jun 3, 2012 7:16 pm

My current board for the Raps at 8:

1. Sullinger (BPA. I still want us too collect assets. Could be traded if needed later for a better return)
2. Waiters (i admit I don't know too much about him but I like his defense and fearless mentality)
3. Lillard (if we don't plan to sign Nash or Dragic, he could be a solid PG. We could also use another scorer)
4. Lamb (if it wasn't for his lack of intensity and focus we would be 1 or 2 on my list. But 90% of the game is mental, only 10% is physical)
5. Marshall (even I could be sleeping Marshall. He will have a solid NBA career IMO. Not an all-star but a very effective starter for a playoff team)
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 12 

Post#780 » by TheDunc » Sun Jun 3, 2012 7:35 pm

Im crossing my fingers for Robinson to measure out 6'7. He might drop to us then. Hes a very good athlete for his size so him being a couple inches smaller wont matter much. I think hes a guarantee for 17/10 type numbers in his second year. Teaming up Jonas V with Robinson would make a killer front court. Trade Bargs and Ed Davis for a SF or PG.

I really like his leadership too, he seems like a bright young kid. Perfect off season would be signing Nash, Draft Robinson, trade Bargs for SF and amnesty Jose. I can dream....

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