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Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Perry Jones

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If still on the Board by our pick what are the chanches we draft him?

100%
24
34%
90%
1
1%
80%
4
6%
70%
6
9%
60%
5
7%
50%
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7%
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4
6%
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4
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Perry Jones 

Post#301 » by DG88 » Sun Jun 3, 2012 6:40 pm

416hustla wrote:I'm astonished to see how many of you are blowing your loads over PJ3 leaping ability. PJ3 sucks. He has sucked for the past 2 years, nothing has changed since the last time you saw him, their is no rational reason to think his motor and intensity for the game are now at a competitive level.

Bust. I'm calling it right now. Bigger bust than Drummond. There is no reason to think he will be able to play the 3 in the NBA, no evidence to support it.

Draft Lamb, draft Sullinger, draft Lillard, draft Waiters. Stay the fack away from Perry Jones!

Jumping really high makes guys think he's the next up and coming superstar
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Post#302 » by Marlo Stanfield » Sun Jun 3, 2012 6:43 pm

PJ3 can jump high, so can Shannon Brown.
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Perry Jones 

Post#303 » by Undefeated » Sun Jun 3, 2012 6:44 pm

I can understand why some who didn't watch PJ3 a lot might like him. I don't think he'll be a bust in the NBA, but he'll be mostly unimpressive. He'll have his streaks dropping buckets, then going MIA for stretches.
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Perry Jones 

Post#304 » by Mister Ze » Sun Jun 3, 2012 6:44 pm

416hustla wrote:I'm astonished to see how many of you are blowing your loads over PJ3 leaping ability. PJ3 sucks. He has sucked for the past 2 years, nothing has changed since the last time you saw him, their is no rational reason to think his motor and intensity for the game are now at a competitive level.

Bust. I'm calling it right now. Bigger bust than Drummond. There is no reason to think he will be able to play the 3 in the NBA, no evidence to support it.

Draft Lamb, draft Sullinger, draft Lillard, draft Waiters. Stay the fack away from Perry Jones!

He's gotta be top 3 in terms of potential and athleticism in this draft class. But he is a risky pick.

If Barnes, Lamb, or Lillard are all gone then the Raps should take him, which isn't likely.
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Post#305 » by Double Helix » Sun Jun 3, 2012 6:51 pm

Every time I find myself wowed by PJIII I google Tyrus Thomas and remind myself how much better his stats were and how much he's struggled as a result of mental issues. He also had a max vert reach of 12'4.

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Post#306 » by neurotik » Sun Jun 3, 2012 6:53 pm

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416hustla wrote:I'm astonished to see how many of you are blowing your loads over PJ3 leaping ability. PJ3 sucks. He has sucked for the past 2 years, nothing has changed since the last time you saw him, their is no rational reason to think his motor and intensity for the game are now at a competitive level.

Bust. I'm calling it right now. Bigger bust than Drummond. There is no reason to think he will be able to play the 3 in the NBA, no evidence to support it.

Draft Lamb, draft Sullinger, draft Lillard, draft Waiters. Stay the fack away from Perry Jones!

Jumping really high makes guys think he's the next up and coming superstar


Lol. Exactly DG. This is my biggest problem with the Raps RealGM Board. 90% of to the people on this board want to draft a Superstar or go bust. They don't care what this risk is. As long as the reward is large enough they are on board. I'd love to play a game of poker against this board, everybody will be all in on a gut shot straight draw.

Staying with this swinging-for-the-fences mentality, people here should become a little more realistic on their expectations for Lamb. I'm OK with drafting the guy at 8, but I don't expect a spectacular NBA career from lamb. I don't expect him to make any all-star teams. He shares some of PJ3's motor (or lack there of) issues and will most likely be a streaky scorer/6th man in this league because of it. He even compared himself to Jamal Crawford, and I think that is spot on (in terms of role not necessarily style of play).
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Post#307 » by JPHolling » Sun Jun 3, 2012 7:06 pm

Double Helix wrote:Every time I find myself wowed by PJIII I google Tyrus Thomas and remind myself how much better his stats were and how much he's struggled as a result of mental issues. He also had a max vert reach of 12'4.

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TT soley relied on his athleticism, whereas pj3 has yet to learn how to use it. I think theres a big difference. plus i feel like everyone only wants pj3 if our staff feels he truly is a 3
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Post#308 » by DreamTeam09 » Sun Jun 3, 2012 7:10 pm

I have no problmes with PJ3 at 8. I keep flip flopping with him and Lamb but to me PJ3 has that it factor and my only real concern is if he can cover NBA 3s.

*edit - I can't see the pic that has every1 talking...
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Post#309 » by neurotik » Sun Jun 3, 2012 7:26 pm

DreamTeam09 wrote:I have no problmes with PJ3 at 8. I keep flip flopping with him and Lamb but to me PJ3 has that it factor and my only real concern is if he can cover NBA 3s.

*edit - I can't see the pic that has every1 talking...


It's Tyrus Thomas.

PS IMO drafting PJ3 would be like flipping a coin. If he pans out you get a star, if he doesn't you just wasted a lottery pick. Except the the odds of the coin landing for the former and latter are more like 20% and 80% respectively as opposed to 50:50.
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Perry Jones 

Post#310 » by tdotrep2 » Sun Jun 3, 2012 7:41 pm

lamb lillard pj3 in that order.
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Perry Jones 

Post#311 » by Marlo Stanfield » Sun Jun 3, 2012 7:47 pm

DreamTeam09 wrote:I have no problmes with PJ3 at 8. I keep flip flopping with him and Lamb but to me PJ3 has that it factor and my only real concern is if he can cover NBA 3s.

*edit - I can't see the pic that has every1 talking...


Me neither, and I doubt it's Tyrus Thomas like 416hustla says. It's Perry Jones hence us talking about Perry Jones' jumping ability.

On another note, imagine if we were to draft Perry and he busts. All of these Jones supporters would be the first ones ripping BC apart for wasting the pick. Typical Raps board.
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Perry Jones 

Post#312 » by Man of Steel » Sun Jun 3, 2012 8:04 pm

416hustla wrote:I'm astonished to see how many of you are blowing your loads over PJ3 leaping ability. PJ3 sucks. He has sucked for the past 2 years, nothing has changed since the last time you saw him, there is no rational reason to think his motor and intensity for the game are now at a competitive level.

Bust. I'm calling it right now. Bigger bust than Drummond. There is no reason to think he will be able to play the 3 in the NBA, no evidence to support it.

Draft Lamb, draft Sullinger, draft Lillard, draft Waiters. Stay the fack away from Perry Jones!


It's kind of amazing that you know both Drummond and PJ3 are busts at this point.

By saying Jones III sucks, are you implying he lacks skill or that he simply doesn't use it?
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Perry Jones 

Post#313 » by neurotik » Sun Jun 3, 2012 8:28 pm

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416hustla wrote:I'm astonished to see how many of you are blowing your loads over PJ3 leaping ability. PJ3 sucks. He has sucked for the past 2 years, nothing has changed since the last time you saw him, there is no rational reason to think his motor and intensity for the game are now at a competitive level.

Bust. I'm calling it right now. Bigger bust than Drummond. There is no reason to think he will be able to play the 3 in the NBA, no evidence to support it.

Draft Lamb, draft Sullinger, draft Lillard, draft Waiters. Stay the fack away from Perry Jones!


It's kind of amazing that you know both Drummond and PJ3 are busts at this point.

By saying Jones III sucks, are you implying he lacks skill or that he simply doesn't use it?


I'm not claiming to know the future. I don't can't state that Jones or Drummond will be bust with 100% confidence. But based on the information that I am privy to and my personal analysis, my forecasts are that they will be busts. Especially when you look at how high they were drafted (this applies more for Drummond).

And when i say PJ3 sucks, I'm referring to his play. I know he has skill and athleticism. If he didn't we would be having this discussion. But he hasn't done much with all his potential. He was inconsistent for 2 years of College Ball and now he will have to face NBA competition.

His play will more likely regress against NBA talent, not improve.
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Perry Jones 

Post#314 » by Man of Steel » Sun Jun 3, 2012 8:41 pm

416hustla wrote:I'm not claiming to know the future. I don't can't state that Jones or Drummond will be bust with 100% confidence. But based on the information that I am privy to and my personal analysis, my forecasts are that they will be busts. Especially when you look at how high they were drafted (this applies more for Drummond).

And when i say PJ3 sucks, I'm referring to his play. I know he has skill and athleticism. If he didn't we would be having this discussion. But he hasn't done much with all his potential. He was inconsistent for 2 years of College Ball and now he will have to face NBA competition.

His play will more likely regress NBA talent, not improve.


Fair enough. I still think he's worth a shot at 8 given that he's one of the few players left at 8 with the potential to be an all-star but I'm sure management will make the right decision and pull off that trade for Gay if they don't think they are getting a good enough player at 8.
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Perry Jones 

Post#315 » by neurotik » Sun Jun 3, 2012 9:10 pm

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DreamTeam09 wrote:I have no problmes with PJ3 at 8. I keep flip flopping with him and Lamb but to me PJ3 has that it factor and my only real concern is if he can cover NBA 3s.

*edit - I can't see the pic that has every1 talking...


Me neither, and I doubt it's Tyrus Thomas like 416hustla says. It's Perry Jones hence us talking about Perry Jones' jumping ability.

On another note, imagine if we were to draft Perry and he busts. All of these Jones supporters would be the first ones ripping BC apart for wasting the pick. Typical Raps board.


Lol, my bad. I thought he was asking about the post above by DH. Just saw (actually couldn't see) the one you guys are talking about
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Perry Jones 

Post#316 » by ballislife » Sun Jun 3, 2012 9:17 pm

I think with him, it really depends on how is team workouts go against other 3's. Also, even if those go well, you have to see where his heads at after the interview. The main concern with PJ is his mindset. If he can squash all those assumptions of him and prove that he can effectively play the 3 and consistently work hard, he's a guy I see BC and staff falling in love with based on his upside and the fact that he'd be a 6'11" SF.
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Post#317 » by Garmfay » Sun Jun 3, 2012 9:42 pm

Its Lamb/PJ3 at this point for me..Lets hope he does well in workouts
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Post#318 » by Pchu » Sun Jun 3, 2012 10:03 pm

He is more like Lamar Odom than many people think. Good ball handling ability, shaky work ethics...

It took Odom several years to be a consistent player in the NBA, so perhaps it could happen with Jones as well.
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Post#319 » by Double Helix » Sun Jun 3, 2012 10:12 pm

The pic was originally embedded but the URL changed. Anyway, you can find it here. It's seriously insane.

http://twitpic.com/9saevt
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Post#320 » by DreamTeam09 » Sun Jun 3, 2012 10:28 pm

Double Helix wrote:The pic was originally embedded but the URL changed. Anyway, you can find it here. It's seriously insane.

http://twitpic.com/9saevt


wow I don't even know what I'm looking at, his fingertip must be like 15 ft off the floor :o Some1 explain dis pic for me???
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