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Re: Adelman wants a "very aggressive" off season 

Post#601 » by Esohny » Thu May 31, 2012 1:22 pm

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Davis is also a PF, so no, I don't think another PF would be the perfect compliment.


I would think that the Wolves would have a better chance of trading for the Bobcats pick at #2 with a package that included Williams then they would have of trading for Gordon (and I don't really think they have much of a chance).
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Re: Adelman wants a "very aggressive" off season 

Post#602 » by trevor0333 » Fri Jun 1, 2012 10:12 am

Can Beasleys & Randolph's cap holds be used for matching salaries in S&T deals?
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Re: Adelman wants a "very aggressive" off season 

Post#603 » by LordBaldric » Fri Jun 1, 2012 11:19 am

trevor0333 wrote:Can Beasleys & Randolph's cap holds be used for matching salaries in S&T deals?


Are you asking if you can trade the actually cap holds and not the players? If so, then no.
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Re: Adelman wants a "very aggressive" off season 

Post#604 » by Grits n Gravy » Fri Jun 1, 2012 12:43 pm

really praying the coaching staff has made it a mission for malcolm to put on 10-15 pounds of muscle this off season. if he can manage that he could be an absolute BEAST getting to the rim with his athletic ability, size and ball handling ability(something we will desperately need)...i remember a game late last year where lee got to the rim 2-3 straight times..once splitting a double team straight down the lane for a dunk and again for an athletic lay up

he has basically the exact same measureables as dwayne wade,wade's a bit more athletic and much stronger. stupid to bring up wade(obviously i would never think he'll be as good or close) but imo the only few things holding him back from being a really, really solid player for us is getting stronger so he can keep his line while driving and finishing better, getting more consistent on his jumper and just general experience and understanding the intricacies on both ends. he's already got the demeanour, tools and passion to be an excellent defender but i think adding strength should be the number one goal this off season for malcolm to take his game and impact to another level.
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Re: Adelman wants a "very aggressive" off season 

Post#605 » by Steve_Holiday » Fri Jun 1, 2012 2:11 pm

Grits n Gravy wrote:really praying the coaching staff has made it a mission for malcolm to put on 10-15 pounds of muscle this off season.


having lee add 15 lbs of muscle wouldn't have even cracked my radar on things he could do to improve next year...and there's plenty of room for improvement.
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Re: Adelman wants a "very aggressive" off season 

Post#606 » by Klomp » Fri Jun 1, 2012 10:34 pm

I wonder if we could trade down later in the first round and pick up an additional 2nd.

18 for 24/34 Taylor/Cunningham)
18 for 23/43 (Taylor/O'Quinn)
18 for 30/35 (Johnson/O'Quinn)

Players used as an example of guys who might be in the discussion at those picks. Theres not much of a dropoff from mid 1st to early 2nd, so we might be able to take advantage if another team has someone targeted they don't want to lose out on.
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Re: Adelman wants a "very aggressive" off season 

Post#607 » by Dewey » Mon Jun 4, 2012 11:51 pm

Klomp wrote:I wonder if we could trade down later in the first round and pick up an additional 2nd.

18 for 24/34 Taylor/Cunningham)
18 for 23/43 (Taylor/O'Quinn)
18 for 30/35 (Johnson/O'Quinn)

Players used as an example of guys who might be in the discussion at those picks. Theres not much of a dropoff from mid 1st to early 2nd, so we might be able to take advantage if another team has someone targeted they don't want to lose out on.


no chance we trade down - zero - nil
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Re: Adelman wants a "very aggressive" off season 

Post#608 » by Klomp » Tue Jun 5, 2012 12:28 am

Dewey wrote:no chance we trade down - zero - nil

Why not?
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Re: Adelman wants a "very aggressive" off season 

Post#609 » by The J Rocka » Tue Jun 5, 2012 12:38 am

Klomp wrote:
Dewey wrote:no chance we trade down - zero - nil

Why not?

Do you think this team wants more young guys? Our 18 could easily be moved for a vet so trading it to get more young guys is highly unlikely
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Re: Adelman wants a "very aggressive" off season 

Post#610 » by Klomp » Tue Jun 5, 2012 12:50 am

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Dewey wrote:no chance we trade down - zero - nil

Why not?

Do you think this team wants more young guys? Our 18 could easily be moved for a vet so trading it to get more young guys is highly unlikely

To be fair, the three guys I've listed are all seniors, so its not like we'd be getting 19 yr olds. I don't think Adelman cares how old they are as long as they can contribute immediately.
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Re: Adelman wants a "very aggressive" off season 

Post#611 » by jade_hippo » Tue Jun 5, 2012 2:30 am

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The J Rocka wrote:Do you think this team wants more young guys? Our 18 could easily be moved for a vet so trading it to get more young guys is highly unlikely

To be fair, the three guys I've listed are all seniors, so its not like we'd be getting 19 yr olds. I don't think Adelman cares how old they are as long as they can contribute immediately.


if Kahn is serious about Rube/Love +5/6 guys coming back, we'll have some roster spots open regardless of bringing in a vet or 2... or 3. Even if it is a project to stash in the DL.
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Re: Adelman wants a "very aggressive" off season 

Post#612 » by Gideon » Tue Jun 5, 2012 5:29 am

If we do trade down a few picks, I like John Jenkins, who is currently landing at the end of the first in most mocks. Probably best pure shooter in draft (20ppg and 43% on threes with over half his FG attempts being threes). Could step right in and contribute from day one as a Kyle-Korver-type player who gives us 15-20 mpg off the bench and is a deadly shooter/offensive spark.
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Re: Adelman wants a "very aggressive" off season 

Post#613 » by Klomp » Tue Jun 5, 2012 6:07 am

Gideon wrote:If we do trade down a few picks, I like John Jenkins, who is currently landing at the end of the first in most mocks. Probably best pure shooter in draft (20ppg and 43% on threes with over half his FG attempts being threes). Could step right in and contribute from day one as a Kyle-Korver-type player who gives us 15-20 mpg off the bench and is a deadly shooter/offensive spark.

Speaking of Jenkins (and Taylor), I found this interesting about Taylor from midseason.

There is also ample evidence that Taylor has shored up another perceived weakness. A career .296 3-point shooter coming in to this season, Taylor is making nearly half of shots from behind the arc (27-of-60, .450). Lack of a perimeter complement to go along with his other-worldly athleticism had been a knock on Taylor's game.

"Those are John Jenkins-like numbers," said Vanderbilt assistant coach Tom Richardson, referring to the Commodore junior who shoots .447 from behind the arc and is leading the nation in 3-pointers per game [3.9]. "When you consider Jeff was 1-for-11 from three as a sophomore, it's pretty incredible."


http://www.nba.com/2012/news/features/c ... index.html
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Re: Adelman wants a "very aggressive" off season 

Post#614 » by horaceworthy » Tue Jun 5, 2012 6:58 am

Klomp wrote:I wonder if we could trade down later in the first round and pick up an additional 2nd.

18 for 24/34 Taylor/Cunningham)
18 for 23/43 (Taylor/O'Quinn)
18 for 30/35 (Johnson/O'Quinn)

Players used as an example of guys who might be in the discussion at those picks. Theres not much of a dropoff from mid 1st to early 2nd, so we might be able to take advantage if another team has someone targeted they don't want to lose out on.

Right now #18 looks like a spot where a high upside lottery ticket like Miller or White might be available. I'd love for the Wolves to pick up an early to mid 2nd and nab someone like Jenkins, Barton, Crowder, DJO, Cunningham, etc., but I don't think it's worth trading out of the current draft slot to do so. There will likely be teams willing to sell a pick in that range, so not really worth trading down.
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Re: Adelman wants a "very aggressive" off season 

Post#615 » by Klomp » Wed Jun 6, 2012 6:56 pm

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=73yv86m

Take advantage of Miami's situation?
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Re: Adelman wants a "very aggressive" off season 

Post#616 » by moss_is_1 » Wed Jun 6, 2012 7:08 pm

I actually don't even want D-wade. He's almost 30 and once he starts declining it'll come fast since he relies on so much athleticism. Then that would leave us with a huge hole at center too.
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Post#617 » by Krapinsky » Wed Jun 6, 2012 7:10 pm

moss_is_1 wrote:I actually don't even want D-wade. He's almost 30 and once he starts declining it'll come fast since he relies on so much athleticism. Then that would leave us with a huge hole at center too.


Miami could do much, much better. I don't they're going to want to give up a superstar to roll the dice on a prospect like Williams.
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Re: Adelman wants a "very aggressive" off season 

Post#618 » by Krapinsky » Wed Jun 6, 2012 7:11 pm

moss_is_1 wrote:I actually don't even want D-wade. He's almost 30 and once he starts declining it'll come fast since he relies on so much athleticism. Then that would leave us with a huge hole at center too.


You wouldn't trade that package for Wade. REALLY?????

Is the whole world on drugs?
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Post#619 » by Klomp » Wed Jun 6, 2012 7:17 pm

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moss_is_1 wrote:I actually don't even want D-wade. He's almost 30 and once he starts declining it'll come fast since he relies on so much athleticism. Then that would leave us with a huge hole at center too.


Miami could do much, much better. I don't they're going to want to give up a superstar to roll the dice on a prospect like Williams.

They'd get a pretty big upgrade at center, upgraded PG, and cap savings.
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Re: Adelman wants a "very aggressive" off season 

Post#620 » by Krapinsky » Wed Jun 6, 2012 7:26 pm

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moss_is_1 wrote:I actually don't even want D-wade. He's almost 30 and once he starts declining it'll come fast since he relies on so much athleticism. Then that would leave us with a huge hole at center too.


Miami could do much, much better. I don't they're going to want to give up a superstar to roll the dice on a prospect like Williams.

They'd get a pretty big upgrade at center, upgraded PG, and cap savings.


It's Dwyane Freakin' Wade.

If they were wanting to build around Lebron, they probably don't want players that are shoot first players, only known for their offensive qualities.
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