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Post#3041 » by paul » Wed Jun 6, 2012 3:38 am

mattg wrote:Miami's role players are garbage. NBA players who can't hit warm up jumpers. Seriously is so pathetic. Lebron sets these guys up with like 15 WIDE OPEN shots and they can't hit.


Miami's real problem right now is that their second best player and supposed top 5 player in the NBA is garbage.
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Post#3042 » by Newz » Wed Jun 6, 2012 3:42 am

Yeah. Hard to win when Monta Ellis shows up in a Wade jersey. :lol:
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Re: First Round Playoff Thread 

Post#3043 » by mattg » Wed Jun 6, 2012 3:43 am

paul wrote:
mattg wrote:Miami's role players are garbage. NBA players who can't hit warm up jumpers. Seriously is so pathetic. Lebron sets these guys up with like 15 WIDE OPEN shots and they can't hit.


Miami's real problem right now is that their second best player and supposed top 5 player in the NBA is garbage.

Wades been sucking for sure, but the role players kill Miami. Their offense has sucked because guys can't make wide open shots. Those players should be embarrassed, wade included because he's had moments where he's just atrocious.
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Post#3044 » by Wooderson » Wed Jun 6, 2012 3:45 am

Nowak008 wrote:Prime Kobe wins that game.


Game 4 of 2008 Finals when Celts were up 2-1.

17, 10, 4, 4, and 4 TOs on 6-19 shooting in 43 minutes.

The rest of the starters had huge games for the Lakers, especially Pau/Odom who combined for 36/20.

Boston wins by 6.
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Post#3045 » by BUCKnation » Wed Jun 6, 2012 3:46 am

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LOL that cracked me up too.

Same.

On Miami's role players: Of course they are bad, but they lost this game b/c of their terrible defensive effort. Pretty much none of their role players took shots in the 4th quarter.
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Post#3046 » by Newz » Wed Jun 6, 2012 3:47 am

Wooderson wrote:
Nowak008 wrote:Prime Kobe wins that game.


Game 4 of 2008 Finals when Celts were up 2-1.

17, 10, 4, 4, and 4 TOs on 6-19 shooting in 43 minutes.

The rest of the starters had huge games for the Lakers, especially Pau/Odom who combined for 36/20.

Boston wins by 6.


I think he's talking about if prime Kobe replaced Monta Ellis.
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Post#3047 » by paul » Wed Jun 6, 2012 3:47 am

For all the talk over the journey of Lebron's epic playoff fails and Wade being such a great playoff performer who would have thought it would have been Wade's failings that would have been almost solely responsible for the Heat being on the brink of losing an almost unlosable ECF?

Mind you I bet if they do lose it's still Lebron that people go after.
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Post#3048 » by Newz » Wed Jun 6, 2012 3:48 am

paul wrote:Mind you I bet if they do lose it's still Lebron that people go after.


That's already happening.
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Post#3049 » by paul » Wed Jun 6, 2012 3:49 am

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paul wrote:Mind you I bet if they do lose it's still Lebron that people go after.


That's already happening.


Yeah. It's nothing if not predictable.
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Post#3050 » by The Wet Whistle » Wed Jun 6, 2012 3:51 am

Wade has truly been a bucket of ass
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Post#3051 » by Newz » Wed Jun 6, 2012 3:51 am

Expanding on that... I don't want to be a LeBron fan, I really don't. I think the guy is kind of a tool, but people go way overboard on him. The guy has a crazy ego and seems like he's out of touch with reality.

But there are athletes who have done some terrible things. Like real life beating women, killing people, etc. and those guys get off easier than LeBron did because he hosted a TV show.

On the court, it's pretty obvious he's the best player in the world... yet people want to shove all of the blame on him for not being able to win rings with no talent around him or now severely under-performing talent around him. This year will be a great example... with Wade, who should be a top 5-10 player in his own right, playing like total garbage... the blame will still fall on James.

I guess it's hard for me to abandon logic in favor of just pure hate for a player, especially when there is no legitimate reason to really hate the guy. It's easy for me to admit he's the best player in the world because it's about as obvious as it gets.
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Post#3052 » by The Wet Whistle » Wed Jun 6, 2012 3:54 am

Newz wrote:Expanding on that... I don't want to be a LeBron fan, I really don't. I think the guy is kind of a tool, but people go way overboard on him. The guy has a crazy ego and seems like he's out of touch with reality.

But there are athletes who have done some terrible things. Like real life beating women, killing people, etc. and those guys get off easier than LeBron did because he hosted a TV show.

On the court, it's pretty obvious he's the best player in the world... yet people want to shove all of the blame on him for not being able to win rings with no talent around him or now severely under-performing talent around him. This year will be a great example... with Wade, who should be a top 5-10 player in his own right, playing like total garbage... the blame will still fall on James.

I guess it's hard for me to abandon logic in favor of just pure hate for a player, especially when there is no legitimate reason to really hate the guy. It's easy for me to admit he's the best player in the world because it's about as obvious as it gets.

Good post and I agree. I used to hate on Lebron but slowly I'm coming around to respect him. You're right dude has a massive ego but overall he's not that awful of a guy, or so it seems. And he is far and away the best player in the world but still takes all the blame for everything.
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Post#3053 » by trwi7 » Wed Jun 6, 2012 3:54 am

LeBron didn't host a show. Jim Gray did. :D
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Post#3054 » by mattg » Wed Jun 6, 2012 3:54 am

BUCKnation wrote:Same.

On Miami's role players: Of course they are bad, but they lost this game b/c of their terrible defensive effort. Pretty much none of their role players took shots in the 4th quarter.

if those role players make their wide open shots throughout the game the heat are up by 20+ and it doesn't matter. The horrible transition defense was obviously inexcusable, but when it comes down to it you gotta make open shots.
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Re: First Round Playoff Thread 

Post#3055 » by Wooderson » Wed Jun 6, 2012 3:55 am

Newz wrote:
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Nowak008 wrote:Prime Kobe wins that game.


Game 4 of 2008 Finals when Celts were up 2-1.

17, 10, 4, 4, and 4 TOs on 6-19 shooting in 43 minutes.

The rest of the starters had huge games for the Lakers, especially Pau/Odom who combined for 36/20.

Boston wins by 6.


I think he's talking about if prime Kobe replaced Monta Ellis.


In that case, I think even Monta Ellis may have given them a better chance to win than Monta Ellis. And I'm no Ellis fan.
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Post#3056 » by Newz » Wed Jun 6, 2012 3:56 am

Someone needs to Photoshop a picture of Miami's "Big 3" with Monta's head on Wade's body. :lol:
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Post#3057 » by paul » Wed Jun 6, 2012 4:12 am

Newz wrote:Expanding on that... I don't want to be a LeBron fan, I really don't. I think the guy is kind of a tool, but people go way overboard on him. The guy has a crazy ego and seems like he's out of touch with reality.

But there are athletes who have done some terrible things. Like real life beating women, killing people, etc. and those guys get off easier than LeBron did because he hosted a TV show.

On the court, it's pretty obvious he's the best player in the world... yet people want to shove all of the blame on him for not being able to win rings with no talent around him or now severely under-performing talent around him. This year will be a great example... with Wade, who should be a top 5-10 player in his own right, playing like total garbage... the blame will still fall on James.

I guess it's hard for me to abandon logic in favor of just pure hate for a player, especially when there is no legitimate reason to really hate the guy. It's easy for me to admit he's the best player in the world because it's about as obvious as it gets.


At this point I find 'the Decision' more funny than anything else, funny that any moron on the planet would be stupid enough at any point to think that was a good PR move, and even funnier that the moron in question managed to convince Lebron James that it was. I spent some time in that world and it's fair to say it isn't full of geniuses, but I mean the guy suggesting it as a good idea would be instantly fired from the smallest most low budge PR firm in any flyspeck town on any map. To think those are the guys controlling maybe a top 5 most recognizable athlete in the world is just lol'worthy.

Anyway Lebron's definitely got some major douche tendencies and is in many ways a child that never grew up, but that doesn't stop him being the best player on the planet nor does it mean that his so called superstar teammate playing like ass is his fault.

The Heat's failings in this series are 100% on Wade, anyway suggesting otherwise is just hating because they can.
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Re: First Round Playoff Thread 

Post#3058 » by Nowak008 » Wed Jun 6, 2012 4:16 am

So Lebron shouldn't get any blame? He is the best player on the planet he should get the most blame when his team doesn't win. Lebron flat out can't dominate when the game is on the line. You can also blame him for his supporting cast...that's the cast he wanted. If Lebron would have picked the Bulls he would be on his way to his second ring already. (assuming Rose doesn't blow out his knee.)

Him being a tool wasn't just just the TV show, it was him having a parade like they won the championship before they even played a game, quitting on his team in the playoffs in Cleveland, not telling the Cavs ownership before he made his announcement, was talking about how he was going to win 7 championships...etc... Lebron deserves to be a pariah.
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Post#3059 » by trwi7 » Wed Jun 6, 2012 4:19 am

Nowak008 wrote:He is the best player on the planet he should get the most blame when his team doesn't win.


Terrible logic is terrible.

If LeBron goes for 50/20/10 without missing a shot but they lose by 1, should he get the most blame?
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Post#3060 » by RiotPunch » Wed Jun 6, 2012 4:20 am

Newz wrote:Someone needs to Photoshop a picture of Miami's "Big 3" with Monta's head on Wade's body. :lol:


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