Game 5 Post Game/Vent Thread

[overpaid]

Did Joel or Turiaf get any minutes at all??? the way this team is playing, they won't win even if they do fluke a come back

[TripleC]

Did Joel or Turiaf get any minutes at all??? the way this team is playing, they won't win even if they do fluke a come back

I honestly didn't even see any of the bigs play lmao.

[LeMVP]

Checking his minutes... Ah, only 45:20 minutes? 6 more than the second Heat player (Wade)? That's on you Spo.

Do you have the stat for our +/- when Bron sat? It's easy to rip Spo on the minutes, but what does anyone else suggest? Doc played Rondo every minute one game because he had to. When Lebron sat, we looked bad. Blame Spo's offense or blame Wade for being bad at running the offense without Bron on the court. Whatever the case may be, Spo tried to sit Bron early in the game and our lead evaporated. We never pulled out big enough to buy him another break after that. We sit Lebron for any period of time, and we're just not scoring. That's the reality of the situation when the bench is playing this bad. Bron can run the offense by himself, but Wade just ain't getting it done on his own. PEACE.

That's usually my argument in Spo's favor. As I couldn't see the game, I'm just talking about the comment that says that LeBron sucked the last minutes while being gassed.

[LeMVP]

Did Joel or Turiaf get any minutes at all??? the way this team is playing, they won't win even if they do fluke a come back

I honestly didn't even see any of the bigs play lmao.

Joel + Turiaf + Pittman = 0 min, DNP. Hum, WTF!?

[thecrowning]

Checking his minutes... Ah, only 45:20 minutes? 6 more than the second Heat player (Wade)? That's on you Spo.

Do you have the stat for our +/- when Bron sat? It's easy to rip Spo on the minutes, but what does anyone else suggest? Doc played Rondo every minute one game because he had to. When Lebron sat, we looked bad. Blame Spo's offense or blame Wade for being bad at running the offense without Bron on the court. Whatever the case may be, Spo tried to sit Bron early in the game and our lead evaporated. We never pulled out big enough to buy him another break after that. We sit Lebron for any period of time, and we're just not scoring. That's the reality of the situation when the bench is playing this bad. Bron can run the offense by himself, but Wade just ain't getting it done on his own. PEACE.

I agree to this somewhat. Bron's minutes is more about the situation, Spo does not really have a choice, perhaps maybe sit him for 1 minute or 2 in the 2nd half, but where Spo really fxxked up is not putting Bosh in with Wade.

At the end of the day, you can't blame EVERYTHING on Spo, but the truth is, he is not up to the job, if his job is to bring THIS group of players and win the ship.

Him not being able to prepare these groups of guys mentally before Gm3 is actually way more important than his mistakes during these past 2 games, especially after what happened last finals.

There were 2 ways to look at Gm2, Boston felt like they lost a game that they should have won, and felt moltivated instead of dejected. The Heat players bought into they hype, and felt like they are so much better than the C's that no matter what the C's do, they will still prevail, and that cockiness showed in the way they started Gm3. That, to me, is on the coach. It happens a lot in the playoffs, and 9/10 times, the cocky team will lose the series,

[LeMVP]

I am still mind boggled over the fact that Spo only gave Bosh 14 mins, dude was productive as hell and he toke him out for no reason. He seemed fine and he wanted to play. Like wtf?? At least let enter a couple mins in the fourth. Just mind boggled. Oh and Spo's Post-Game interview "I think he may be able to play another hand full of minutes in game 6" ....... Seriously? It's all or nothing dumbass. Get him out there wow.

This.

The moron has no sense of urgency, and it shows in our players as well. This isn't some 12:00 noon on a Sunday in the middle of January game.

Couldn't see the game yet, but judging by the stats we were -12 with him on the floor. That's the worst +/- of any player in the game. 9pts 7reb in 14min seems pretty good on the other hand.

[DefenseWins]

Spo played too many wings today. It made us small and vulnerable.

It gave Bass and KG easy points...

UD sucks vs Garnett.

Game 6 if Bosh comes alive and has a big game for us against KG, we can win.

but they have yet to win all the must win games...

I mean it isn't over yet, but god damn.

A motivated, happy, Boston Celtic's team on their own home floor 1 win away... if the Heat can over come something like that... that's amazing lol. Kind of like the Pacers game 4, only this is an elimination game on the road.

The +/- stat isn't an indicator of how things went IMO. He just happened to be on the floor when Boston went on a run. The thing is, the defense sucked when Bosh was in. But Bosh was getting good rebounds. Our bigs have to be on the perimeter which is stupid. Bosh should stay in the paint but we always have our bigs on the perimeter and then make them run into the paint, only for Boston to get a dunk... so stupid doubling people at the perimeter for no reason...

[TripleC]

I am still mind boggled over the fact that Spo only gave Bosh 14 mins, dude was productive as hell and he toke him out for no reason. He seemed fine and he wanted to play. Like wtf?? At least let enter a couple mins in the fourth. Just mind boggled. Oh and Spo's Post-Game interview "I think he may be able to play another hand full of minutes in game 6" ....... Seriously? It's all or nothing dumbass. Get him out there wow.

This.

The moron has no sense of urgency, and it shows in our players as well. This isn't some 12:00 noon on a Sunday in the middle of January game.

Couldn't see the game yet, but judging by the stats we were -12 with him on the floor. That's the worst +/- of any player in the game. 9pts 7reb in 14min seems pretty good on the other hand.

Yeah I know, but we desperately still needed a big out there for some offensive rebounds or anything really.

[Moggs24]

I'm already thinking about who we're going to draft, and who the new coach will be.

When has this heat team ever shown it had the spine to overcome adversity? We're done. You can see it in the players body language tonight. You can see it in the Celtics too.

I bet we get blown out on Thursday. Season's over.

Listen we all feel down after this loss but come on when we beat Indiana in game 4 on their home floor was that not over coming adversity or does everyone just like to conveniently forget what happened 2 weeks ago. Things don't look good right now, but I am not gonna give up. Games 2-5 have all been extremely close and were decided by one or two plays here or there. We will have a chance to win game 6 and if our guys get out played again then you tip your hat to the other team, but come on now with the defeatist attitudes.

[Vertical Limit]

Honestly if we lose this game on Thursday we'll see how good Riley is at apologizing to SVG.

[bluerain]

Just in odds right now. Really don't know what to say. Can't sleep I am really down right now. LBJ is one of my fav, I am absolute gutted for him right now. Wade is really off. IMO Wade mentally is gone. Guys, wade just not use to not being able to rise. Yes he has his fault, but dude is really trying hard and that shizt is frustrated the hell out of him because he knows. Well they are fighting for theirs lives, and in game 6 wade, bron and bosh better play their azss of. If that means blood, hell getting carry off the floor because they played so hard.

[DefenseWins]

well for the 3rd game in a row I'm saying this... writing is on the wall for Wade blah blah. He showed up in the 4th, but this is annoying. He has to dominate the whole game. Lebron is wasting too much energy defensively to me, someone has to take the scoring load.

But yes this is like the Pacers game 4. A must win game on the road where we look so bad and were about to lose.

But this isn't the Pacers. This is a team that has won many close games against us and are 1 away from the Finals. They actually have a PG too and a better coach. Vogel is also a video coordinator... who talks trash....

we'll see what this team is made out of. a championship team would over come this type of adversity.

win or go home. literally.

[Vertical Limit]

well for the 3rd game in a row I'm saying this... writing is on the wall for Wade blah blah. He showed up in the 4th, but this is annoying. He has to dominate the whole game. Lebron is wasting too much energy defensively to me, someone has to take the scoring load.

But yes this is like the Pacers game 4. A must win game on the road where we look so bad and were about to lose.

But this isn't the Pacers. This is a team that has won many close games against us and are 1 away from the Finals. They actually have a PG too and a better coach. Vogel is also a video coordinator... who talks trash....

we'll see what this team is made out of. a championship team would over come this type of adversity.

win or go home. literally.

[TRG]

DefenseWins have you ever considered that maybe Wade just isn't capable of taking over for a full game like he used to anymore? He's shown spurts of greatness in the Indiana series but I just don't know if he can replicate a performance like that against a disciplined Celtics team.

Honestly I'm starting to become a believer in the whole "LBJ stunted Wade's growth" argument. Ever since LeBron showed up Wade just hasn't been as consistently dominant as he used to be. LBJ is the better player and gets his numbers all the time but it seems as if Wade's overall production has really suffered as a result of him deferring to LBJ and Bosh more instead of being the focal point of the offense.

What a shame... He and LeBron said they would be able to overcome their differences and make it work. Maybe it won't work out after all?

[imchillin]

We can only Lebron has his shot in the garden and wade Comes to play


They say it's rigged for us be all knew better all along. It's not. Those bad calls on Lebron in game 4, yea big deal, our inability to execute in the clutch in that game, big deal. I knew it would come back to bite us

Better hope we don't get outplayed early, because wade might lose it fast and we will crumble quickly

[krikor]

We lost a game by 2 points in over time, we lost another one today 4 by points.
Bar game 2, we lost 2 close games.

I dont want to analyze anymore, its a discussion am not liking it one bit.analyzing what went wrong etc etc.its depressing me more.

just bring game 6 now.

[LeMVP]

I still see us favorites to win game 6 and then favorites to close it out on home floor, specially after winning game 6 in Boston. But hey, I didn't predict Boston winning more than one game too.

Game 3: we lose by 10, LeBron scored 34, Wade 18.
Game 4: we lose by 2, LeBron scored 29, Wade 20.
Game 5: we lose by 4, LeBron scored 30, Wade 27.

32-22, 34-23 for the first games we won.

It comes down to scoring, as both are giving good defensive displays. Wade HAS to score over the entire game and not just go off for 10 points when it's to late. If he hadn't played like **** in games 3-4 we would already be in the Finals. LeBron will score 30+, Wade needs to catch the 30s if Bosh can't get it going. I don't give a **** if he has a bad knee or something, it's **** Dwyane Wade.

[DefenseWins]

DefenseWins have you ever considered that maybe Wade just isn't capable of taking over for a full game like he used to anymore? He's shown spurts of greatness in the Indiana series but I just don't know if he can replicate a performance like that against a disciplined Celtics team.

Honestly I'm starting to become a believer in the whole "LBJ stunted Wade's growth" argument. Ever since LeBron showed up Wade just hasn't been as consistently dominant as he used to be. LBJ is the better player and gets his numbers all the time but it seems as if Wade's overall production has really suffered as a result of him deferring to LBJ and Bosh more instead of being the focal point of the offense.

What a shame... He and LeBron said they would be able to overcome their differences and make it work. Maybe it won't work out after all?

Of course I believe that. But apparently I'm a hater for thinking so (when Wade's my favorite player... lol..). LBJ didn't stunt Wade. Wade just thinks he can relax more with LeBron on this team. LeBron also thinks the same way. They don't have that mentality of "ONLY GUY ON THIS TEAM WHO CAN DO ANYTHING, GOTTA CARRY THEM ON MY BACK".

Wade maybe has knee issues still. People always say that Wade's declining and when it comes up, he gets a dominating game.

For the sake of jinx, Wade's declining lol.

Wade today couldn't even help create for his team. He didn't score anything in the 2nd quarter. That's more than just not taking over. That's just not even playing well. Wade also doesn't have his jumper anymore and is so bad at FT shooting now. Of course there's more things to why we're losing, but last year Wade dominating and LBJ closing, is what got us past Boston in 5 last year. (I'm aware Rondo broke his arm too...).

[Vindicater]

No mention of the fact that everytime Wade made a driving layup (hit or miss) he was always the last guy down the floor because he was too busy

A). Yelling at a ref for not making the call (if he missed)

B). Celebrating and posing for the crowd

or

C). Both.

[DefenseWins]

I would like to see this Wade in Game 6.. if it's possible

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePZAj9ffagA

JUST SOMETHING TO WIN!!! SOMETHING!!