1st rd pick general discussion #2 overall (Poll Added)

HornetJail · Post #841 » by **HornetJail** » Tue Jun 5, 2012 7:12 pm

BigSlam wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:Rookie number projections

Anthony Davis
14 ppg.... 9 rpg.... 3 bpg.... on 55% shooting

Players that averaged at least 14/9/3 last season:
NONE

I don't see Davis blocking three shots a game in his rookie season. Maybe two per game. By his 3rd year, I expect somewhere between three and four a game. I'd say he's a 12/10/2 rookie with very good defense. Easy rookie of the year.

freakon0mics · Post #842 » by **freakon0mics** » Tue Jun 5, 2012 7:31 pm

JMAC3 wrote:Rookie number projections

Anthony Davis
14 ppg.... 9 rpg.... 3 bpg.... on 55% shooting

Thomas Robinson
14ppg..... 10 rpg.... on 45% shooting... (him shooting midrange brings it down)

Andre Drummond
6ppg..... 6 rpg.... 1.4 bpg.... on 50% shooting... 40% from the free throw line

Bradley Beal
16ppg.... 5 rpg.... 3 apg.... on 43% shooting... 38% from three (I think majority of shots come from behind the line)

Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
13 ppg....7 rpg....4 apg.... bpg+spg=3+... on 48% shooting.... 32% from three

Harrison Barnes
12 ppg... 4.5 rpg.... 1apg.... on 42% from field.... 36% from three (same reason as Beal)

Are these numbers if they were drafted by us or the numbers that they can put up on whomever they get drafted by?

Beal's numbers seems to be the most realistic if he was drafted by us. He would obviously be starting and be playing alongside Kemba. I wouldn't be surprised to see Kemba and Beal average at least a combined 10 rebounds per game, which is pretty impressive for such a small backcourt.

TheKingofSting · Post #843 » by **TheKingofSting** » Tue Jun 5, 2012 8:08 pm

Kemba2Hendo wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:Rookie number projections

Anthony Davis
14 ppg.... 9 rpg.... 3 bpg.... on 55% shooting

Thomas Robinson
14ppg..... 10 rpg.... on 45% shooting... (him shooting midrange brings it down)

Andre Drummond
6ppg..... 6 rpg.... 1.4 bpg.... on 50% shooting... 40% from the free throw line

Bradley Beal
16ppg.... 5 rpg.... 3 apg.... on 43% shooting... 38% from three (I think majority of shots come from behind the line)

Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
13 ppg....7 rpg....4 apg.... bpg+spg=3+... on 48% shooting.... 32% from three

Harrison Barnes
12 ppg... 4.5 rpg.... 1apg.... on 42% from field.... 36% from three (same reason as Beal)

What site is that from?

Post #844 » by **fatlever** » Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:46 am

hoopsreport has some stuff up

http://www.hoopsworld.com/bobcats-ready ... number-two
good breakdown of bobcats options at 2 and 31

http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-am-anothe ... -mock-draf
mock draft, has us taking robinson and tyshawn taylor

http://www.hoopsworld.com/category/nba- ... t-prospect
draft profiles, has comparisons for every profile

Post #845 » by **BigSlam** » Wed Jun 6, 2012 1:55 am

fatlever wrote:http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-am-another-2012-nba-mock-draf
mock draft, has us taking robinson and tyshawn taylor

If guys like Royce and Wroten were on the board at #31 and we didn't take one of them.......

Post #846 » by **BigSlam** » Wed Jun 6, 2012 2:21 am

fatlever wrote:http://www.hoopsworld.com/category/nba-draft/nba-draft-prospect
draft profiles, has comparisons for every profile

Some of these comparisons are sort of weird.

Eg: Terrence Ross = DeRozan - JR Smith

Seriously - could those two dudes be any different?

Stun704 · Post #847 » by **Stun704** » Wed Jun 6, 2012 2:47 am

Damn Blake Griffin averaged 22/12 as a rookie, and you guys are worried about T-Rob? I would venture to say he'll average at-least 18/9 as a rookie, and may win ROY if Davis struggles due to his lack of msucle

Eoghan · Post #848 » by **Eoghan** » Wed Jun 6, 2012 3:01 am

Stun704 wrote:Damn Blake Griffin averaged 22/12 as a rookie*, and you guys are worried about T-Rob? I would venture to say he'll average at-least 18/9 as a rookie, and may win ROY if Davis struggles due to his lack of msucle

* a rookie that got to watch his first year from the bench recovering from injury.

TheKingofSting · Post #849 » by **TheKingofSting** » Wed Jun 6, 2012 3:30 am

Stun704 wrote:Damn Blake Griffin averaged 22/12 as a rookie, and you guys are worried about T-Rob? I would venture to say he'll average at-least 18/9 as a rookie, and may win ROY if Davis struggles due to his lack of msucle

No, I'm worried he will fall into the Reggie Evans comparison.

Stun704 · Post #850 » by **Stun704** » Wed Jun 6, 2012 4:08 am

Kemba2Hendo wrote:
Stun704 wrote:Damn Blake Griffin averaged 22/12 as a rookie, and you guys are worried about T-Rob? I would venture to say he'll average at-least 18/9 as a rookie, and may win ROY if Davis struggles due to his lack of msucle

No, I'm worried he will fall into the Reggie Evans comparison.

Reggie Evans rebounding ability, with an offensive game is an all star

Liver_Pooty · Post #851 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Wed Jun 6, 2012 4:21 am

In Chad Fords latest mock draft he has Bobcats taking Gilchrist. Top 5 were Davis, Gilchrist, Beal, Barnes, and then Robinson.

He also said he wouldn't be surprised at all if Charlotte didn't have an NBA team in a few years.

TheKingofSting · Post #852 » by **TheKingofSting** » Wed Jun 6, 2012 5:29 am

Chad Ford is a tool.

-Ian- · Post #853 » by **-Ian-** » Wed Jun 6, 2012 5:50 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:In Chad Fords latest mock draft he has Bobcats taking Gilchrist. Top 5 were Davis, Gilchrist, Beal, Barnes, and then Robinson.

He also said he wouldn't be surprised at all if Charlotte didn't have an NBA team in a few years.

Can you post exactly what he said?

I'm going to attack that mofo on Twitter. His hatred towards MJ / Bobcats is just stupid.

TheKingofSting · Post #854 » by **TheKingofSting** » Wed Jun 6, 2012 7:35 am

In a sim league I am in, we have played 11 seasons and Drummond has a career average of 17.2 ppg and 12.4 rpg and averaged 3.0 blocks per game. His career high season he averaged 20.6 ppg and 13.7 rpg.

MKG has a career average of 19.9 ppg and 7.0 rpg, his career season he averaged 23.8 ppg and 7.8 rpg.

Beal was by far the worst with 4.7 ppg and 3.5 rpg career average but he has only played 1 year and only an average of 19.6 mpg.

T Rob averages 12.2 ppg and 10.4 rpg through 3 seasons with a career high year being 14.1 ppg and 11.0 rpg in his second season.

Elden Payton · Post #855 » by **Elden Payton** » Wed Jun 6, 2012 10:03 am

fatlever wrote:hoopsreport has some stuff up

http://www.hoopsworld.com/bobcats-ready ... number-two
good breakdown of bobcats options at 2 and 31

http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-am-anothe ... -mock-draf
mock draft, has us taking robinson and tyshawn taylor

http://www.hoopsworld.com/category/nba- ... t-prospect
draft profiles, has comparisons for every profile

Cheers for the links fats, the breakdown of options is very comprehensive and well done.

If we pick at two we have to take Robinson imo but we really should trade down with Portland.

James Gatz · Post #856 » by **James Gatz** » Wed Jun 6, 2012 4:21 pm

Cheers for the links fats, the breakdown of options is very comprehensive and well done.

If we pick at two we have to take Robinson imo but we really should trade down with Portland.

I just don't see Portland trading 6 and 11 for 2. They have their biggests needs at C and PG. Who are they going to take with the 2?

Liver_Pooty · Post #857 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Wed Jun 6, 2012 4:33 pm

-Ian- wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:In Chad Fords latest mock draft he has Bobcats taking Gilchrist. Top 5 were Davis, Gilchrist, Beal, Barnes, and then Robinson.

He also said he wouldn't be surprised at all if Charlotte didn't have an NBA team in a few years.

Can you post exactly what he said?

I'm going to attack that mofo on Twitter. His hatred towards MJ / Bobcats is just stupid.

I read it all on a Raptors message board, cant find it now. Basically said our choices will be Robinson or Gilchrist if we don't trade down and most scouts believe the pick will be Gilchrist.

Him saying he wont be surprised if the team isn't in Charlotte in a few years is just more hate on us. Between him, Jeff Van Gundy, and Bill Simmons writing an article once a year bashing us Im used to it.

kampz · Post #858 » by **kampz** » Wed Jun 6, 2012 5:16 pm

So thomas robinson is like a beefy michael beasley? and what we thought beasley could be?

HornetJail · Post #859 » by **HornetJail** » Wed Jun 6, 2012 5:27 pm

James Gatz wrote:

Cheers for the links fats, the breakdown of options is very comprehensive and well done.

If we pick at two we have to take Robinson imo but we really should trade down with Portland.

I just don't see Portland trading 6 and 11 for 2. They have their biggests needs at C and PG. Who are they going to take with the 2?

Drummond, I remember some talk about them being interested in him. I definitely wouldn't be opposed to trading the #2 and Kemba for #6, #11, and a role player. Drummond and Kemba fill their two biggest needs.

James Gatz · Post #860 » by **James Gatz** » Wed Jun 6, 2012 5:36 pm

Drummond, I remember some talk about them being interested in him. I definitely wouldn't be opposed to trading the #2 and Kemba for #6, #11, and a role player. Drummond and Kemba fill their two biggest needs.

They're not going to put all their chips in the Drummond basket. If they traded two lottery picks for a guy who ends up being a bust they will look incredibly foolish. They "may" gamble on him at 6 as it looks he will probably be there. Adding Kemba doesn't sweeten it enough for them in my opinion either.

The value of the number 2 pick is going to largely depend on measurements and workouts anyways.

Who should the Bobcats draft at #2?