Game 5 Post Game/Vent Thread

[OceanBlue]

I literally have been nauseous and sick to my stomach since the game ended. I'm so friggen frustrated that I don't know what to do with myself... Goddammit, enough with giving them life! Just put these punk ass Celtics in their graves already!

[Respect My Mind]

THIS IS A GAME OF MAKES AND MISSES

Yeah but it easier to make shot when they are easy.

Wade: Attack 3 defenders, jump off wrong foot and make swooping left hand lay-up, in traffic.

Garnett: Set simple illegal screen on the baseline for Rondo, roll 6 feet to the basket, catch one-handed alley-oop dunk on Udonis head.

Disrespectful superstars with no jumpshot = bad offense and talking back to the coach.

[krikor]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_hrLS97WUI

www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE7YVX6RXck

[Nanogeek]

Its time for THIS Lebron to show up.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmH0ot-KtSw[/youtube]

[WD]

Hyde5: How could Bosh sit on bench at end of Game 5

By Staff Writer June 6, 2012 01:11 AM
1. Why didn't Chris Bosh play in the fourth quarter? This was a blunder, plain and simple. If Bosh wasn't healthy, if he was tired, if he just was so rusty that he couldn''t contribute, that's one thing.

But that wasn't the case.

"I was ready,'' Bosh said.

"I didn't think it was fair,'' Heat coach Erik Spoelstra said, meaning Bosh had missed nine games and it wouldn't have been right to ask him to play the most competitive minutes of the season given that.

Maybe it wasn't fair. But how about putting him out there for a couple of minutes to find out? Bosh didn't start but played 10 minutes and 35 seconds in the first half. He played less than four minutes in the second half. That's it. Did Spoelstra forget about him?

Bosh shot 3-for-7 for nine points in the game. He also had seven rebounds - six of which were offensive rebounds. That represented half the Heat's offensive rebounds for the game. All in less than 15 minutes. What if he'd played 20? What if he was in when the Heat needed an offensive rebound to keep a possession alive?

Why not see what he had in a game being decided again by the slimmest of margins?

Bosh wasn't second guessing the decision. But ...

"If he told me it wasn't fair, that's great,'' Bosh said. "I think we still had enough to win the gme, no matter what happened. We're in this situation now. Hopefully when it comes to crunch time in Game 6 I'll be out there with my guys."

2. There's more than a series at stake when the Heat play tonight. As I wrote today in my column, the continued existence of the Big Three might be trying to survive, too. Do they keep them intact? Do they keep Erik Spoelstra as coach? So many ugly questions come into play in this series.

3. Let's not over-do the coaching angle. Yes, Doc Rivers was changing defenses up a lot. But the Heat shot seven of 12 against Boston's zone, according to Synergy.com. So isn't that a bad mark against Rivers? I think Rivers has an edge on Spoelstra this series. But ultimately the NBA is a players' league. The players have to make winning plays. Did you see Pierce knock down the 3-point shot for a four-point cushion in the manner the Heat haven't been able to do? Did you see Rondo tip a loose rebound to Mickael Pietrus, who drained a 3-point shot?

"The play of the game,'' Doc Rivers called that one.

The easy thing is to cite coaching as the big problem. It's not. It's just easier to pick on. 'This isn't to say I don't have my serious second-guesses (see Bosh not playing above). But it's a players' league, folks. Ultimately in the NBA the players almost always decide matters.

4. Boston really didn't play that well for most of this one. Ray Allen was two-for-nine shooting. Rondo was three-of-15 shooting (though he had 13 assists). Pierce was six-of-19 shooting. But here's the thing -0 Boston still shot 40.7 percent on the night to the Heat's 39 percent. LeBron made six of his first eight shots -- and went five-of-18 after that.

http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports/ ... on_be.html

[OtW]

I still can't believe Pierce's **** contested three pointer went in...

There is absolutely no way this punk and his team will be the ones to put the dagger in our hearts...

[WD]

I still can't believe Pierce's **** contested three pointer went in...

There is absolutely no way this punk and his team will be the ones to put the dagger in our hearts...

I wish posters stop saying this

[WD]

From Ira

Q: This series seems so similar to the last year's NBA Finals, in numerous ways. If the Heat lose, it's a season of regression. -- Martin, Boca Raton.

A: Yes, it certainly feels a lot like that Mavericks series, that once it started going the other way, the Heat had no answer. During those Finals, Rick Carlisle outcoached Erik Spoelstra when it came to getting the best of the Heat's over-rotating defense. This time, Doc Rivers' defensive schemes are making the Heat look downright lost. For a team to succeed, it has to do more than talk about overcoming adversity. It has to actually do it. Last year, there only was rhetoric once it started heading south. Now, the Heat have one game, or two, to show they truly can overcome adversity. Spoelstra can talk about momentum changing, but he has to actually go out and find a way to make that happen, actually do it. Or else, instead of what the Heat calls "outside noise," this season will become about inside noise.

Q: Kevin Garnett is eating you up inside and Joel Anthony never gets in the game? -- Alan.

A: That's why so many eyes roll when Spoelstra or anyone within the team talks about valuing their depth and the value of their role players. By sitting out the centers who started the previous two games, and not playing them for a single second Tuesday, Spoelstra's actions say all that truly needs to be said about how this team views their centers.

Q: If we lose the series will Spoelstra be fired? -- Jeffrey.

A: Thanks for your phrasing, so I don't have to answer whether he "should" be fired. No, he will not be fired. For Pat Riley to do that would be an acknowledgement that the "Riley Way" no longer works, and it would add a non-Riley voice to the mix. The glue in Dwyane Wade, LeBron James and Chris Bosh coming together was the Heat way of doing things. If Riley stays, I think it's safe to say Spoelstra stays. Whether that is right or wrong is a story for another day.

Q: They blew this game in the second period when LeBron came out. -- Stuart.

A: And that's the scary part. It's almost as if they can't operate without LeBron on the court. Big Three? It's more like Big MVP and a prayer.

WD - all points are spot on, I guess Riley will now have a talk to him cause he's definitely "off script"

[OtW]

I still can't believe Pierce's **** contested three pointer went in...

There is absolutely no way this punk and his team will be the ones to put the dagger in our hearts...

I wish posters stop saying this

Ok then, how about then there should not...implying that we should not be down to Boston but we are down anyway.

[DefenseWins]

I slept on it.

Just like I had doubt saying this but hoping it happened when we were down to the Pacers, I said we'd win 3 in a row.

WE ARE GOING TO WIN THE NEXT 2.

ALL WE HAVE IS BELIEF RIGHT NOW.

I wish we didn't have to depend on the coach but something like sitting Bosh and only giving him 14 minutes, that is his fault. Obviously Bosh should have been in earlier than just 3 minutes... Spo is acting like Bosh is getting paid 4 mil to be a role player on this team. The dude is our most paid guy is he not? PLAY HIS ASS YOU FOOL.

[WD]

I still can't believe Pierce's **** contested three pointer went in...

There is absolutely no way this punk and his team will be the ones to put the dagger in our hearts...

I wish posters stop saying this

Ok then, how about then there should not...implying that we should not be down to Boston but we are down anyway.

Say it any way you wish Sir, but your first version is an opinion, the second version is a fact. Right now, I am looking for facts not opinions. It's all good though, I knew what you meant.

[WD]

I wish we didn't have to depend on the coach.

this, the players are not responding to him, answer this serious question, if this was your coach, would you run through a wall for him? ok that's a little strong, would you play on a strained groin for him?

[krikor]

the coach might not be best, but we are putting too much onn him.surely he can take 70 % of responsibility, but not 100 %.

there are many other things to address in this team.you got top & best players some places, but the rest is beyond poor.Especially key positions like playmaker & frontcourt are poor.

[OtW]

@WD yeah. Let's just hope this team can pull themselves together and prove everyone wrong.

This team is always talking about adversity and how they have learned from last year...these next few days will be a real gut check for them.

[krikor]

We need to ignore series results till now. lets just say its 0 -0 , we just need to put 2 game winning streak here.

lets just focus on game 6 now, i am starting to forget yesterday and focus on tomorrow.but i dont wanna give myself too much hopes, just in case we didnt get it done..i will melt down lol.

[WD]

@WD yeah. Let's just hope this team can pull themselves together and prove everyone wrong.

This team is always talking about adversity and how they have learned from last year...these next few days will be a real gut check for them.

Here's the silver lining I have in my gut, if there is any team of guys that can do this, it's this team of guys. If they do this, it will be one of the top comeback stories of the ECF. What we need from this coach, we won't get, he is what he is, so THE PLAYERS HAVE TO DO THIS THEMSELVES.

If they go out there and play basketball to their ability, we can do this.

[DefenseWins]

I remember in 2010, the Celtics did just this, but they got blown out on their home floor by the Lakers in game 6 (Lakers lost at home in game 5), and Lakers won in game 7.

Obviously it isn't the Finals

But it can be done.

IT CAN BE DONE LETS GO HEAT

[WD]

I remember in 2010, the Celtics did just this, but they got blown out on their home floor by the Lakers, and Lakers won in game 7.

Obviously it isn't the Finals

But it can be done.

IT CAN BE DONE LETS GO HEAT

this, gotta get some work done now

[krikor]

wrong, celtics lost game 6 & 7 in LA, the finals is 2 - 3 - 2 format..

[krikor]

but i understand we need to believe.the game tomorrow starts at 0 - 0 , not 30 - 20 down..