Contract Restructure

[blaha112]

Pacer Fan here. Odd question for you. Do you think if you guys don't win the boston series your big three would think about restructuring their contracts so you could sign one of the great FA PG's? I think a good C would help you more, but I signing an awesome PG from freed up cap space of a restructure would be helpful. Not sure if it's even possible in basketball, but if the big three want to win and set ego aside, that's something maybe they would consider?

[HEAT111]

I would like to see that happen to flex the space open. I doubt its possible though. The only problem is the timing, once the contract expires I hope the core stays. By their 5th year, they can opt out and have another contract.

[HIF]

Miami fan here. Since your guys got blown out by us without Bosh do you think the Pacers will blow up their roster?

[MartyConlonJr]

You can't restructure contracts, I'm pretty sure this has been an issue since at least back as far as Shawn Kemp in Seattle demanding a trade once Jim McIlvaine got signed. He wanted restructure - it wasn't possible from memory.

[WD]

Pacer Fan here. Odd question for you. Do you think if you guys don't win the boston series your big three would think about restructuring their contracts so you could sign one of the great FA PG's?

No, they already took a cut, someone else needs to sacrifice, something else needs to be sacrificed

[contract]

Pacer Fan here. Odd question for you. Do you think if you guys don't win the boston series your big three would think about restructuring their contracts so you could sign one of the great FA PG's? I think a good C would help you more, but I signing an awesome PG from freed up cap space of a restructure would be helpful. Not sure if it's even possible in basketball, but if the big three want to win and set ego aside, that's something maybe they would consider?

If we don't win this series, I think one of the "Big 2" needs to be moved for a player that better complements the remaining Big 1.

[_jin]

It's possible with the new CBA but there are a lot of conditions to be met, first of all to be under the salary cap, which is not possible for the Heat. And in the event of a contract renegotiation, it can only be an increase for the player salary so there's no point in doing it

[Hoops23]

I doubt riley will break the big 3... These guys made sacrifices, one of which is getting a contract below their market value when they signed with Miami.

[Moggs24]

See what everyone is missing b/c they are all caught up the moment is that this was a long term move. It makes no sense to panic and start trading away our best players just b/c we might not end up winning the title this year. This is a 6 year plan and we need to put talent around these players so they can succeed not panic and start reorganizing the roster. You look at Boston they have had up and down years but b/c they never freaked out and traded their core they have a chance to make their 3rd NBA finals in 6 years and although everyone wants the Heat to win the title every year all you can do is be in the running and hope everything falls into place.

[DrVanNostrand]

See what everyone is missing b/c they are all caught up the moment is that this was a long term move. It makes no sense to panic and start trading away our best players just b/c we might not end up winning the title this year. This is a 6 year plan and we need to put talent around these players so they can succeed not panic and start reorganizing the roster. You look at Boston they have had up and down years but b/c they never freaked out and traded their core they have a chance to make their 3rd NBA finals in 6 years and although everyone wants the Heat to win the title every year all you can do is be in the running and hope everything falls into place.

Voice of reason.

[ndnow]

With Howard on the market you're going to see Riley go after him before any PG. Wade or Bosh plus whatever for Howard is probably what you're going to see offered.

[ReturnofMVP3]

Ya'll are mistaken we can do contract restructure but we just add more years (more money). I'm not sure how it works exactly but the general idea is(use Wade as an example), we restructure his contract so he gets lets say 4 million dollars extra if we restructure for 6 years (max you can sign someone i think) then he is making a little more than 54 million (he makes 50 million over the next 3 years with us).

54/6 = 9 million a year. Now all our big 3 do that and we are at 27 million between them a year.

Enought to sign some key FA. BUT I doubt they'd do that

This is really rough I haven't looked into it in depth.

[BigDaddyPR]

I dont think Wade will be offered, and maybe not even Bosh, i see miller gone for sure, and trying AGAIN to get a center for the min. Priz would had been perfect for us. Whatever...

[ReturnofMVP3]

It's unfortunate Dalembert didn't use MLE here when he essentially got that from Huston

[DWadeno3]

See what everyone is missing b/c they are all caught up the moment is that this was a long term move. It makes no sense to panic and start trading away our best players just b/c we might not end up winning the title this year. This is a 6 year plan and we need to put talent around these players so they can succeed not panic and start reorganizing the roster. You look at Boston they have had up and down years but b/c they never freaked out and traded their core they have a chance to make their 3rd NBA finals in 6 years and although everyone wants the Heat to win the title every year all you can do is be in the running and hope everything falls into place.

It's very rare to actually hear the voice of reason on here. Most people are too caught up in the media frenzy, which pretty much focuses on our success/failure and blows it all of our proportion. The truth is, we have a very talented roster, but so do other teams. We happened to have a tough year injury-wise and seem to have taken the hardest hit during the postseason. With Bosh missing all these games and Wade having serious knee issues, things couldn't have been much worse for us. Those same Spurs, who are now in the WCFs, lost to the Memphis Grizzlies last year because they were missing Ginobili. Sometimes an injury or two can just throw you back by that much. Let's be real here, Wade rarely ever had a stretch this season where he was right. His year was similar to Rose's, as in they could never really catch a break with the schedule being as condensed as it is. Add the fact that Bosh just got hurt at the wrong time to it and you have a perfect reason for all the other 29 teams in the league to not win the title.

I agree that the supporting cast and even the coaching staff are far from ideal, but that's exactly why you don't just destroy the foundation it's all built on. We certainly need to restructure around the Big Three a little, add some more talent at positions we have vacancies and just get some more depth in general. But giving away one of our All-Stars and calling the Big Three experiment a failure when we were two wins away from winning a title in the first year and when we had to overcome this adversity in the playoffs is the kind of stupid overreaction that's become a common trait around here.

[cb1]

See what everyone is missing b/c they are all caught up the moment is that this was a long term move. It makes no sense to panic and start trading away our best players just b/c we might not end up winning the title this year. This is a 6 year plan and we need to put talent around these players so they can succeed not panic and start reorganizing the roster. You look at Boston they have had up and down years but b/c they never freaked out and traded their core they have a chance to make their 3rd NBA finals in 6 years and although everyone wants the Heat to win the title every year all you can do is be in the running and hope everything falls into place.

It's very rare to actually hear the voice of reason on here. Most people are too caught up in the media frenzy, which pretty much focuses on our success/failure and blows it all of our proportion. The truth is, we have a very talented roster, but so do other teams. We happened to have a tough year injury-wise and seem to have taken the hardest hit during the postseason. With Bosh missing all these games and Wade having serious knee issues, things couldn't have been much worse for us. Those same Spurs, who are now in the WCFs, lost to the Memphis Grizzlies last year because they were missing Ginobili. Sometimes an injury or two can just throw you back by that much. Let's be real here, Wade rarely ever had a stretch this season where he was right. His year was similar to Rose's, as in they could never really catch a break with the schedule being as condensed as it is. Add the fact that Bosh just got hurt at the wrong time to it and you have a perfect reason for all the other 29 teams in the league to not win the title.

I agree that the supporting cast and even the coaching staff are far from ideal, but that's exactly why you don't just destroy the foundation it's all built on. We certainly need to restructure around the Big Three a little, add some more talent at positions we have vacancies and just get some more depth in general. But giving away one of our All-Stars and calling the Big Three experiment a failure when we were two wins away from winning a title in the first year and when we had to overcome this adversity in the playoffs is the kind of stupid overreaction that's become a common trait around here.

This. Am all for keeping the big 3 and changing the pieces around them as well as the coach.

[contract]

See what everyone is missing b/c they are all caught up the moment is that this was a long term move. It makes no sense to panic and start trading away our best players just b/c we might not end up winning the title this year. This is a 6 year plan and we need to put talent around these players so they can succeed not panic and start reorganizing the roster. You look at Boston they have had up and down years but b/c they never freaked out and traded their core they have a chance to make their 3rd NBA finals in 6 years and although everyone wants the Heat to win the title every year all you can do is be in the running and hope everything falls into place.

The "core" of the Celtics has been kept together, but that core had actually won something, and the pieces actually complement each other. Wade and Lebron do not. The object is not to win with this core group ... the object is to win.

[contract]

See what everyone is missing b/c they are all caught up the moment is that this was a long term move. It makes no sense to panic and start trading away our best players just b/c we might not end up winning the title this year. This is a 6 year plan and we need to put talent around these players so they can succeed not panic and start reorganizing the roster. You look at Boston they have had up and down years but b/c they never freaked out and traded their core they have a chance to make their 3rd NBA finals in 6 years and although everyone wants the Heat to win the title every year all you can do is be in the running and hope everything falls into place.

It's very rare to actually hear the voice of reason on here. Most people are too caught up in the media frenzy, which pretty much focuses on our success/failure and blows it all of our proportion. The truth is, we have a very talented roster, but so do other teams. We happened to have a tough year injury-wise and seem to have taken the hardest hit during the postseason. With Bosh missing all these games and Wade having serious knee issues, things couldn't have been much worse for us. Those same Spurs, who are now in the WCFs, lost to the Memphis Grizzlies last year because they were missing Ginobili. Sometimes an injury or two can just throw you back by that much. Let's be real here, Wade rarely ever had a stretch this season where he was right. His year was similar to Rose's, as in they could never really catch a break with the schedule being as condensed as it is. Add the fact that Bosh just got hurt at the wrong time to it and you have a perfect reason for all the other 29 teams in the league to not win the title.

I agree that the supporting cast and even the coaching staff are far from ideal, but that's exactly why you don't just destroy the foundation it's all built on. We certainly need to restructure around the Big Three a little, add some more talent at positions we have vacancies and just get some more depth in general. But giving away one of our All-Stars and calling the Big Three experiment a failure when we were two wins away from winning a title in the first year and when we had to overcome this adversity in the playoffs is the kind of stupid overreaction that's become a common trait around here.

Yep ... if only we had more talent. How is a team with Lebron James, Dwyane Wade & Chris Bosh supposed to win without a little extra help.

[_jin]

Ya'll are mistaken we can do contract restructure but we just add more years (more money). I'm not sure how it works exactly but the general idea is(use Wade as an example), we restructure his contract so he gets lets say 4 million dollars extra if we restructure for 6 years (max you can sign someone i think) then he is making a little more than 54 million (he makes 50 million over the next 3 years with us).

54/6 = 9 million a year. Now all our big 3 do that and we are at 27 million between them a year.

Enought to sign some key FA. BUT I doubt they'd do that

This is really rough I haven't looked into it in depth.

I was not mistaken in my post, but you are in many ways. As I said you cant renegotiate contracts when you're above the cap, and realistically we won't ever be under the cap in the near future.

Contracts can't be 6 years unless it's an extension (and not a renegotiation) of the only designated player on the roster. And the salary decrease can't be more than 40%, with the Big 3 it starts at 11M, and the fact that the total contract value can not decrease, you couldn't even reach those 40% with the current Big 3 contracts (probablay a 20% decrease is the maximum, didn't calculate). And you'd be paying a 36years old Wade >15M in 2018.

And no you can't restructure the Big 3 contracts yet (or any other on the roster for that matter) because renegotiation can only be done 3 years after the signing of the contract.
And be realistic, they already advertised wildly the fact that they took a slight pay cut to play together, they're not taking a 40% cut. Even super loyal guys who played for only one team in their career don't do that.

So basically, let's forget about that.