Game 5 Post Game/Vent Thread

[DefenseWins]

@AlexKennedyNBA: The Heat trail the Celtics, 3-2. LeBron James has been in a 3-2 hole four times throughout his career. James lost all four of those series.

@Chris_Broussard: "Fair"? What is this - YMCA ball? Bosh is making $16 mill/yr. Put him in the game! 6 offensive Rebs. Think He could've helped down stretch?

@NBAonESPN: RT @ESPNStatsInfo: What's next? The Celtics are just 11-13 since 2007-08 with the chance to clinch a series: http://t.co/x9yyfmyJ

the first stat is scary....

Chris Broussard is right, I was saying this. He's our most paid guy, he said he was fine. FRIGGIN PLAY HIM SPO, **** idiot, I swear. Not even 20 minutes. I expect Bosh playing a lot more the next game. This is a do or die game, he has to play long. Screw the "cautious" crap. I think it's an excuse for him to play Battier even more or something LOL.

[OtW]

^DefenseWins

I know right. I am so scared for a 2010 Celtics Game 6/Finals Game 6 type flameout from him and/or Wade. We NEED this game.

[nyk_buc]

Of course it's not true. Just because you spout some **** doesn't make it true.

Have you actually watched Wade when he wasn't injured this year. Probably the best player in the league.

Huh? So you're saying Wade can't shoot because he is injured? I mean I guess I can accept that excuses just so it won't ruffle your feathers, but the end result is the same... Wade cannot shoot and Boston isn't letting him get to the basket, therefore Wade = Useless.

isn't it ironic that coming into this series, Wade is supposed to be the "biggest" mismatch in the Heat's favor? And yet he's been useless for all but 3-4 quarter of the entire series.

let's be real about it. if he plays up to his capabilities, this team isn't losing to boston. Lebron is more than doing his job. 31/10/4 in this series v. boston on 50%. chalmers has been more than good. haslem has been more than decent.

but it will all fall back to lebron. it's been 9 years. and he hasn't won a championship. he needs to go back in the offseason and see what he can do better at. 50% operation in the post next year? 55% shooting? 37-38% 3pt shooting? something. apparently what he has done throughout his career isn't enough.

[ecnirp]

Of course it's not true. Just because you spout some **** doesn't make it true.

Have you actually watched Wade when he wasn't injured this year. Probably the best player in the league.

Huh? So you're saying Wade can't shoot because he is injured? I mean I guess I can accept that excuses just so it won't ruffle your feathers, but the end result is the same... Wade cannot shoot and Boston isn't letting him get to the basket, therefore Wade = Useless.

isn't it ironic that coming into this series, Wade is supposed to be the "biggest" mismatch in the Heat's favor? And yet he's been useless for all but 3-4 quarter of the entire series.

let's be real about it. if he plays up to his capabilities, this team isn't losing to boston. Lebron is more than doing his job. 31/10/4 in this series v. boston on 50%. chalmers has been more than good. haslem has been more than decent.

but it will all fall back to lebron. it's been 9 years. and he hasn't won a championship. he needs to go back in the offseason and see what he can do better at. 50% operation in the post next year? 55% shooting? 37-38% 3pt shooting? something. apparently what he has done throughout his career isn't enough.

From my observation....

Thats because DOc runs Wade ragged with him chasing Allen off screens. Chalmers should guard Allen. Its similar to LeBron guarding Terry (although Allen hasnt been as successful). You run the risk of tiring your players out doing that.

Doc's formula is simple.

1. Make DWADE work like hell on defense. On a player who is actually struggling (Allen)
2. Trap DWADE so he's ineffective the 1st half. Have him trying to play catch up in the 2nd half.
3. Accept LeBron is going to dominate the 1st half. But that he will tire down in the 2nd half.
4. Keep the game tight. They'll feel the pressure and the game will come down to coaching.
5. Every time out is an advantage Celtics. Will draw up an easy play to get a basket.

Doc has coached an excellent series. Them throwing out that zone even made me worried. He knows the blueprint. The Heat have to counter.

[nyk_buc]

Doc's formula is simple.

1. Make DWADE work like hell on defense. On a player who is actually struggling (Allen)
2. Trap DWADE so he's ineffective the 1st half. Have him trying to play catch up in the 2nd half.
3. Accept LeBron is going to dominate the 1st half. But that he will tire down in the 2nd half.
4. Keep the game tight. They'll feel the pressure and the game will come down to coaching.
5. Every time out is an advantage Celtics. Will draw up an easy play to get a basket.

Doc has coached an excellent series. Them throwing out that zone even made me worried. He knows the blueprint. The Heat have to counter.

the heat's counter is wade to step up every quarter in terms of "impact." you don't have to score points to be impactful. get 10+ boards. get 7-8 assists. shut down the guy on defense. the point is, he's been a complete GHOST overall in all but 4-5 quarters all series. that's what pissing me off.

lebron scored 9 poitns in the 4th last night. he didn't tire out for crap. he did his job. wade chose to play half of the first and the 4th. the other 2.5 quarters he was useless again. like, completely useless. spo can't afford to rest bron b/c when bron is out, wade can't orchestrate worth a damn to keep the team afloat.

people may think i'm hating on wade, but i was the first to crown the guy when he put up 3 great performances v. the pacers. that's the wade this team needs, or at least 85-90% of it.

this team has no business losing to boston. they should be ashamed.

[DefenseWins]

^DefenseWins

I know right. I am so scared for a 2010 Celtics Game 6/Finals Game 6 type flameout from him and/or Wade. We NEED this game.

LeBron actually had a good game 6 against Boston... but... he almost had a quadruple double with his turn overs.

But he gave up... and when he gave him, his team did as well.

he had like 27 points, 19 rebs 10 assists. but was 8-21.

I believe LBJ will play his heart out (he played 46 minutes that game too). But will it be enough?

[YounG_A]

I'm still in shocked....

we had a chance to go up 3-1 but now we are down 3-2


last night, the game started great up by 10 early..but we couldn't blow the game open, we had chances to go up by 13-15pts but we either turned it over or couldnt make a shot


the heat are being tested right now, Celtics have beaten the heat to their knees and they will try to keep them there and have the series finish in boston....lets see if the heat respond, take the hits and win in boston.

gotta have faith.

[nyk_buc]

^DefenseWins

I know right. I am so scared for a 2010 Celtics Game 6/Finals Game 6 type flameout from him and/or Wade. We NEED this game.

LeBron actually had a good game 6 against Boston... but... he almost had a quadruple double with his turn overs.

But he gave up... and when he gave him, his team did as well.

he had like 27 points, 19 rebs 10 assists. but was 8-21.

I believe LBJ will play his heart out (he played 46 minutes that game too). But will it be enough?

why are y'all worried about lebron? dude will be fine in game 6. the only bad game he's had all playoffs (or the only non-impactful game) is game 3 v. the pacers. dude has been "on" all playoffs.

[arsenic]

^DefenseWins

I know right. I am so scared for a 2010 Celtics Game 6/Finals Game 6 type flameout from him and/or Wade. We NEED this game.

LeBron actually had a good game 6 against Boston... but... he almost had a quadruple double with his turn overs.

But he gave up... and when he gave him, his team did as well.

he had like 27 points, 19 rebs 10 assists. but was 8-21.

I believe LBJ will play his heart out (he played 46 minutes that game too). But will it be enough?

why are y'all worried about lebron? dude will be fine in game 6. the only bad game he's had all playoffs (or the only non-impactful game) is game 3 v. the pacers. dude has been "on" all playoffs.

I'm not worried about Bron. I've seen nothing but EFFORT from him all post season long. The guy really has been balling out of his mind. I'm just HOPING Bosh can have a BIG impact throughout to give him some help in Game 6.

[nyk_buc]

take a look at ESPN poll on who's to blame for the heat's predicament.

spo is at 49% as expected. Bron is at 28%. Wade is tied with Bosh as 12%.

[DefenseWins]

I'm not worried about LeBron, though he keeps coming up.

I don't like his minutes though, but there's more to why we have lost 3 in a row.


I expect Bosh to also play a lot of minutes... again... most paid guy in an elimination game. Play him or just fire SPo on the spot lol.

[nyk_buc]

[quote="arsenic"

why are y'all worried about lebron? dude will be fine in game 6. the only bad game he's had all playoffs (or the only non-impactful game) is game 3 v. the pacers. dude has been "on" all playoffs.[/quote]
I'm not worried about Bron. I've seen nothing but EFFORT from him all post season long. The guy really has been balling out of his mind. I'm just HOPING Bosh can have a BIG impact throughout to give him some help in Game 6.[/quote]

this playoff run is the 2nd best to his epic one in 09. unfortunately, it could flame out early.

the heat need a game 3-like pacers effort from bron. they need bosh to step up big. wade, i don't think he will show up in game 6. he sucked in both games in boston this series.

[EGarrett]

I have to commend you guys, this is one of the greatest "reverse jinx" efforts I've ever seen by a fanbase. I wouldn't be shocked now if they took the next two games and swept the Finals.

[nyk_buc]

I have to commend you guys, this is one of the greatest "reverse jinx" efforts I've ever seen by a fanbase. I wouldn't be shocked now if they took the next two games and swept the Finals.

u shouldn't b/c the heat are the superior team. this should have been over in 5.

[HEAT111]

Lebron's jersey number is 6, we're 6 games away from the title, game 6 we face elimination. Today is 6/6/12. What in the world...


I'm not worried about Lebron, he has been fantastic and i'm gla Wade came alive. Game 5's battle was about the coaching and Spo didn't play the right move in this fight. I don't know what to expect for Game 6, I see so many coincidence in this round and especially for the Spurs. I have said this on another thread, its not our depth but the versitility isn't giving us what we need. If that shows up we can be very flexible every game. If anything were to happen this summer I hope Riley goes into our solid depth problems than just versatility.

[arsenic]

this playoff run is the 2nd best to his epic one in 09. unfortunately, it could flame out early.
the heat need a game 3-like pacers effort from bron. they need bosh to step up big. wade, i don't think he will show up in game 6. he sucked in both games in boston this series.

Wade will...probably be Wade. Saying that last year...and saying it this year is so drastically different it's scary.

Wade will be Wade...last year

Wade will be Wade...this year

[EGarrett]

I have to commend you guys, this is one of the greatest "reverse jinx" efforts I've ever seen by a fanbase. I wouldn't be shocked now if they took the next two games and swept the Finals.

u shouldn't b/c the heat are the superior team. this should have been over in 5.

They are the superior team in physical talent. The issue is the mental battle.

That being said, the Heat are like Michael Myers or Jason to me. 3-2 doesn't mean much. They're not finished until they've been shot 20 times, decapitated, staked through the heart and drowned in holy water.

[TripleC]

Lebron's jersey number is 6, we're 6 games away from the title, game 6 we face elimination. Today is 6/6/12. What in the world...


I'm not worried about Lebron, he has been fantastic and i'm gla Wade came alive. Game 5's battle was about the coaching and Spo didn't play the right move in this fight. I don't know what to expect for Game 6, I see so many coincidence in this round and especially for the Spurs. I have said this on another thread, its not our depth but the versitility isn't giving us what we need. If that shows up we can be very flexible every game. If anything were to happen this summer I hope Riley goes into our solid depth problems than just versatility.

haha nice find

only if the game was played today!

[OtW]

Wow.

@ByTimReynolds: For all asking the Turiaf question, a right groin strain is the answer.

Since when?

[cb1]

Wow.

@ByTimReynolds: For all asking the Turiaf question, a right groin strain is the answer.

Since when?

Is Joel hurt too because he changed game 4 with his defense.