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Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXV: Offseason Edition)

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXV: Offseason Edition) 

Post#941 » by _DudeItsMagic_ » Wed Jun 6, 2012 10:08 pm

My guess would be that this was leaked to try to make another team offer Phil more $$$...it was reported before that he had another gig lined up, so creating competition for his services will only drive up his price.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXV: Offseason Edition) 

Post#942 » by BadMofoPimp » Wed Jun 6, 2012 10:08 pm

OrlandO wrote:"Latest Jackson to Magic scenario Dead On Arrival"
Sources told Broussard Wednesday that the Magic do not want an absentee head of basketball operations.


http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/80164 ... nario-dead

Just another random plan submitted and leaked by Sam Vincent... nothing to see here folks, move along.


More No Named Sources. Broussard wants Dwight traded, so he creates all sorts of propaganda to help him with this endeavor.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXV: Offseason Edition) 

Post#943 » by magic111 » Wed Jun 6, 2012 10:08 pm

Its dead people...lets move on. The whole idea was stupid to begin with. You just can't havea PBO be in another state working...just would not work. Phil needs to change his mind on that, for us to think serioulsy about it.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXV: Offseason Edition) 

Post#944 » by Nemesis21 » Wed Jun 6, 2012 10:12 pm

magicfan84 wrote:I am on the bandwagon for this

President - Phil
GM - Pritchard
Asst. GM - Penn
Head Coach - Shaw


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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXV: Offseason Edition) 

Post#945 » by OrlandO » Wed Jun 6, 2012 10:15 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:
OrlandO wrote:"Latest Jackson to Magic scenario Dead On Arrival"
Sources told Broussard Wednesday that the Magic do not want an absentee head of basketball operations.


http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/80164 ... nario-dead

Just another random plan submitted and leaked by Sam Vincent... nothing to see here folks, move along.


More No Named Sources. Broussard wants Dwight traded, so he creates all sorts of propaganda to help him with this endeavor.

I'm not a fan of Broussard, but this Phil story just smells of false hope. Which sounds more realistic... Phil coming to Orlando or Sam f'n Vincent gossiping and sugar coating his rejected proposals?
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXV: Offseason Edition) 

Post#946 » by Orlando Prodigy » Wed Jun 6, 2012 10:33 pm

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Agents for Phil Jackson & source w/knowledge of Magic GM search strongly deny reports of deal "on table" for Jackson in Orlando. Story soon.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXV: Offseason Edition) 

Post#947 » by magic111 » Wed Jun 6, 2012 10:44 pm

All I can say is, I used to work for a NBA team on the west coast, and there are alot of shady people out there tyring to get involved with the team etc... It can be shocking at times. I see Vincent as that type. Just seems a little shady to me.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXV: Offseason Edition) 

Post#948 » by Shishnizzle » Wed Jun 6, 2012 11:05 pm

All I can say is, I used to work for a NBA team on the west coast, and there are alot of shady people out there tyring to get involved with the team etc... It can be shocking at times. I see Vincent as that type. Just seems a little shady to me.


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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXV: Offseason Edition) 

Post#949 » by bicatmit » Wed Jun 6, 2012 11:08 pm

magic111 wrote:All I can say is, I used to work for a NBA team on the west coast, and there are alot of shady people out there tyring to get involved with the team etc... It can be shocking at times. I see Vincent as that type. Just seems a little shady to me.


Like John Morgan trying to buy the Magic?
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXV: Offseason Edition) 

Post#950 » by Def Swami » Wed Jun 6, 2012 11:19 pm

David Aldridge's story http://www.nba.com/2012/news/06/06/jack ... ef:nbahpt2
Agents for Magic, Jackson deny contact about job
In an unusual display of independent solidarity from NBA parties, both the agents for Phil Jackson and an Orlando Magic source denied Wednesday any contact between the parties on a potential kingmaker role for Jackson with the Magic organization.

Former Bobcats coach Sam Vincent was freelancing a proposal with no authorization to speak for the Magic, the agents said.

Stories in the Orlando Sentinel last week and on SI.com Tuesday said that a proposal that would bring Jackson to the Magic as an executive was on the table. However, Jackson's longtime agents, Todd and Brian Musburger, said Wednesday that the Magic has never contacted them about Jackson. And a league source familiar with the Magic's search for a new general manager said that Vincent was not speaking for the Magic, nor are the Magic interested in hiring Jackson.

"One, Phil never voiced any interest in Orlando," Todd Musburger said "never had us check it out, never checked it out himself. Two, Orlando never called."

Brian Musburger said Wednesday that the 66-year-old Jackson was interested in a "hybrid" management role -- a Pat Riley-Tex Winter combination," Musburger said -- that would make Jackson the head of basketball operations and give Jackson authority over the entire organization, including picking the next coach. (That coach would run Jackson's beloved triangle offense.)

The source with knowledge of Orlando's search said that Vincent, the former Magic player and Bobcats head coach, met with Orlando CEO Alex Martins, who is heading the GM search, last Thursday. Vincent, according to the source, said he had "a big idea" and could "deliver" Jackson to Orlando. But, the Musburgers said Wednesday, Vincent hadn't discussed the proposal with Jackson or with his agents.

But the source indicated that Martins wants no part of such an arrangement where Jackson was a "part time" director of basketball operations. At any rate, the team wasn't, and isn't, interested in pursuing the proposal.

However, the Magic is "very fond of" Shaw, the source said, and Shaw would be on the team's short list for potential head coaches after the GM is hired.

Jackson would definitely live in the city where he gets a job, Todd Musburger said, saying it was "insulting" to believe that Jackson was interested in being a commuter executive. "You will not find Phil Jackson on the golf course," he said.

Jackson, both Musburgers said, is not likely to coach again, even though he's been given a clean bill of health after having his left knee replaced in March. He would rather be a kind of consigliere to a new head coach, in the role that Winter played for him in Chicago and Los Angeles.

"Phil would be very comfortable I he never returns to the NBA," Todd Musburger said. "But I think he would be very comfortable returning. There's a lot of frustration when you're sitting in your living room and watching a team try to defend a screen and roll, and you can't put your hands on an organization."

Todd Musburger said Jackson would like to be involved with the new staff, "not to second-guess them, but to help them prepare for doing their job. I think he would find that challenging and rewarding."

Said Brian Musburger: "he valued that relationship (with Winter) too much (to interfere with a new head coach). I think he would love to mentor somebody in that kind of way" Winter did with him.

"We are not in contact with anybody who is in any authority to do anything," Todd Musburger said. "Until we hear from people who have real authority and real decision making capability, there's nothing worth discussing."
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXV: Offseason Edition) 

Post#951 » by OrlandO » Wed Jun 6, 2012 11:53 pm

Vincent is a sad, sad man. He must be really desperate for big money.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXV: Offseason Edition) 

Post#952 » by mattyBoi » Thu Jun 7, 2012 12:10 am

"We are not in contact with anybody who is in any authority to do anything," Todd Musburger said. "Until we hear from people who have real authority and real decision making capability, there's nothing worth discussing."


This quote says a lot.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXV: Offseason Edition) 

Post#953 » by Def Swami » Thu Jun 7, 2012 12:25 am

I like the idea of Pritchard, Penn, and Shaw. I think we're going to need people who know what they're doing and be able to hit the ground running. It's likely that whoever we hire will have a week before the draft to get to work and it'll take a seasoned vet to use his associations with other teams to swing some deals for us. I think Pritch and Penn have been around the block and have a good track record and have the knowledge and prowess to swing a deal. I'm hoping we can make something happen around the draft to help draft. It's unlikely, but I think Pritch and Penn give us the best shot. Shaw is a no-brainer at this point.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXV: Offseason Edition) 

Post#954 » by D12VCMagic » Thu Jun 7, 2012 12:27 am

Breaking from NBC: Dwight loves Orlando, doesn't want trade

A source close to Orlando Magic All-Star Dwight Howard said Wednesday that he still loves Orlando and isn't seeking a trade.

In an interview with WESH 2 News sports anchor Larry Ridley, the source said Howard is bothered by the hit his image has taken since this season's trade rumors and problems with Magic head coach Stan Van Gundy.

The source said Howard is "hurt by all the negativity surrounding him (and) doesn't understand why he's blamed for everything that happens inside the (Magic) organization."

Howard is continuing his rehabilitation in Los Angeles, and the source said he's waiting to see how the Magic improves.


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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXV: Offseason Edition) 

Post#955 » by WeAreVenom » Thu Jun 7, 2012 12:31 am

D12VCMagic wrote:Breaking from NBC: Dwight loves Orlando, doesn't want trade

A source close to Orlando Magic All-Star Dwight Howard said Wednesday that he still loves Orlando and isn't seeking a trade.

In an interview with WESH 2 News sports anchor Larry Ridley, the source said Howard is bothered by the hit his image has taken since this season's trade rumors and problems with Magic head coach Stan Van Gundy.

The source said Howard is "hurt by all the negativity surrounding him (and) doesn't understand why he's blamed for everything that happens inside the (Magic) organization."

Howard is continuing his rehabilitation in Los Angeles, and the source said he's waiting to see how the Magic improves.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47713987/ns ... 8_0YcVNjrc


Lol, the circus continues....


















God, I hope this is true....
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXV: Offseason Edition) 

Post#956 » by OrlandO » Thu Jun 7, 2012 12:32 am

D12VCMagic wrote:Breaking from NBC: Dwight loves Orlando, doesn't want trade

A source close to Orlando Magic All-Star Dwight Howard said Wednesday that he still loves Orlando and isn't seeking a trade.

In an interview with WESH 2 News sports anchor Larry Ridley, the source said Howard is bothered by the hit his image has taken since this season's trade rumors and problems with Magic head coach Stan Van Gundy.

The source said Howard is "hurt by all the negativity surrounding him (and) doesn't understand why he's blamed for everything that happens inside the (Magic) organization."

Howard is continuing his rehabilitation in Los Angeles, and the source said he's waiting to see how the Magic improves.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47713987/ns ... 8_0YcVNjrc

Good rumor, now let's hope he backs it up by signing the extension in July. And I wouldn't mind if you made a new thread about this... sick of seeing all the trade dwight threads when he hasn't asked for another trade since signing the waiver.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXV: Offseason Edition) 

Post#957 » by Nyce_1 » Thu Jun 7, 2012 12:33 am

If Shaw is coach, we need a GM or basketball mind in the FO that knows the triangle and what to look for in players to run it. I don't think Pritchard/Penn is a good pairing with Shaw's offense. Phil overseeing Shaw and mentoring him like Winter mentored Phil, is the perfect combo.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXV: Offseason Edition) 

Post#958 » by IGotDaMagicInMe » Thu Jun 7, 2012 12:37 am

:rockon:

SIGN THE DAMN EXTENTION!

Hopefully after we hire all of our people we can sit him down and get this all over with
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Post#959 » by fendilim » Thu Jun 7, 2012 12:50 am

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXV: Offseason Edition) 

Post#960 » by _DudeItsMagic_ » Thu Jun 7, 2012 12:56 am

wow even MSNBC is breaking stories from "sources" (hope its true though)
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