2012 NBA Draft - Part IV

[DCZards]

I wasn't too worried about the height. More worried about the agility tests. He's still undersized so its imperative that he tests out as an above average athlete.

With his shooting, ball IQ, maturity and work ethic I'm not too concerned about whether or not Beal is a great athlete. Harold Miner was a great athlete.

[omegatronic3]

I just saw the interview with Beal and Andy Katz and Beal appears to be about the same height as Katz.
I copared it to a Wall /Katz interview and Wall looked taller...I also saw an Andy Katz JJ Redick interview where Redick looked taller than Katz so Im assuming that 6'4 1/4" measurement is with shoes.
Granted I suppose Beal could have been bare foot in the interview and Katz may have been wearing thick sole shoes but Im guessing beal is about 6'2" barefoot. Thats kind of what I thought and I still think that makes him too undersized. The true metric is standing reach though so lets see where that ends up. He is pretty solid and Wide so he wont get pushed around easily. I think a Solid but undersized combo guard like Dumars and Mitch richmond stand a much better chance than a combo who is undersized and with a light frame like Larry Hughes for example so im not writing Beal off. I'm not that excited about him though.

Robinson on the other hand I think measured ok. Sure hes a little undersized but hes pretty long. Hes probably height wise similar to Blake Griffin. I think hes big enough to play the 4. Besides how many true power forwards are there anyway. I havent seen any measurements on MKG but im not worried about his measurements.

[jivelikenice]

I wasn't too worried about the height. More worried about the agility tests. He's still undersized so its imperative that he tests out as an above average athlete.

With his shooting, ball IQ, maturity and work ethic I'm not too concerned about whether or not Beal is a great athlete. Harold Miner was a great athlete.

Can't agree there. He has enough size, but is still by no means a big 2 guard so having a high livel of athleticism is key for him.

How many 6'4 shooting guards with decent but not great athleticism have become consistent all-star type performers? I'm not asking sarcastically; I'm really looking to figure out how likely it is that Beal will be a consistent all star versus just a pretty good shooting guard.

[DCZards]

I wasn't too worried about the height. More worried about the agility tests. He's still undersized so its imperative that he tests out as an above average athlete.

With his shooting, ball IQ, maturity and work ethic I'm not too concerned about whether or not Beal is a great athlete. Harold Miner was a great athlete.

Can't agree there. He has enough size, but is still by no means a big 2 guard so having a high livel of athleticism is key for him.

How many 6'4 shooting guards with decent but not great athleticism have become consistent all-star type performers? I'm not asking sarcastically; I'm really looking to figure out how likely it is that Beal will be a consistent all star versus just a pretty good shooting guard.

Don't have time to do the full research but I'll give you two in the 6'3-6'5 range--Joe Dumars and Mitch Richmond. Neither one of them were elite athletes. Joe had a high ball IQ, great D and a decent shot, and Mitch was a dead-eye shooter, like I expect Beal to be.

[Dat2U]

If we do somehow trade down, Lillard could make a very interesting pairing with Wall. Something to think about.

You know, I've been thinking the exact same thing lately. If Lillard was playing in the ACC or SEC, we'd probably be talking about him in the same breath as Beal and MKG.

Watching footage on him he's very crafty at creating space or getting to the rim and he's an excellent shooter. He's not an elite athlete or an above rim player but his first step is explosive and he has great body control. Actually, he looks like a skinnier Gilbert Arenas.

I could see Lillard being a 20 pt scorer in the league. We could do a lot worse than drafting him at #3.

[Dark Faze]

After seeing T-Robs measurements I'll take him. Our front court will be locked up and we can throw the max at an all-star caliber wing/SG.

[Dat2U]

Until I see some standing reaches, these measurements mean nothing to me.

Um, what the hell did I just say?

[hegotgame132]

Combine notes
http://www.nbadraft.net/nba-draft-combine-day-1-0

I don't really follow the college prospects closely and havent been religously checking in on this thread(so I don't know if there's been much discussion on this) but after reading that summary it seems like Jeffery Taylor should be a target for a 3 and d guy. He's projected as a mid to late 20s pick but might slip to the early 2nd round.

+1 he's 6'7 a great athlete, maybe the best wing defender in the class and shot 42% from 3

[closg00]

Combine notes
http://www.nbadraft.net/nba-draft-combine-day-1-0

I don't really follow the college prospects closely and havent been religously checking in on this thread(so I don't know if there's been much discussion on this) but after reading that summary it seems like Jeffery Taylor should be a target for a 3 and d guy. He's projected as a mid to late 20s pick but might slip to the early 2nd round.

+1 he's 6'7 a great athlete, maybe the best wing defender in the class and shot 42% from 3

I've been on the JT bandwagon for a while, there's no-way he slips into the 2nd, the teens is where he will go.

[theboomking]

Jeff Taylor is 23 years old and has a 6'6" wingspan. He will never be more tha a role player in the league. That doesn't mean he's a bad choice later in the draft.

[verbal8]

If we do somehow trade down, Lillard could make a very interesting pairing with Wall. Something to think about.

There was talk of getting the 10th pick from Charlotte. If Lillard was there, I think he would be a great pick. If he was going to be a pure point, I think his measurements would matter less, but I would like to see his standing reach measure at least 8'2". I think at that point he has the ability to pressure most SGs, even if Wall would get them as his primary assignment.

[closg00]

Common-on Ernie, find a way to get NO's 10th pick they are shopping.. Man, this is when you really need a guy like Pritchard or Presti who can pull-off mulitple moves on draft night.

[Ruzious]

Jeff Taylor is 23 years old and has a 6'6" wingspan. He will never be more tha a role player in the league. That doesn't mean he's a bad choice later in the draft.

I have to agree. This falls in my Wes Johnson rule - don't buy into a old college player who never really did particularly well until 23.

[closg00]

Jeff Taylor is 23 years old and has a 6'6" wingspan. He will never be more tha a role player in the league. That doesn't mean he's a bad choice later in the draft.

I have to agree. This falls in my Wes Johnson rule - don't buy into a old college player who never really did particularly well until 23.

The Spurs are interested, that is all you need to know

[Ruzious]

Jeremy Lamb fans enjoy. http://www.csnnw.com/pages/video?PID=FE ... CVZBJRamtI

Sorry, but he reminds me too much of Nick Young.

[dangermouse]

^agreed.

SG who doesnt assert himself in games. Thats Nick Young with less chucking.

[nate33]

Jeremy Lamb fans enjoy. http://www.csnnw.com/pages/video?PID=FE ... CVZBJRamtI

Sorry, but he reminds me too much of Nick Young.

Nick Young with basketball IQ would be a pretty solid player.

[truwizfan4evr]

Jeremy Lamb fans enjoy. http://www.csnnw.com/pages/video?PID=FE ... CVZBJRamtI

Sorry, but he reminds me too much of Nick Young.

Hell yea we need to stay away from him. He seems immature he cant even remember the names on the Portland team. He's a Nick Young 2.0.

[truwizfan4evr]

Jeremy Lamb fans enjoy. http://www.csnnw.com/pages/video?PID=FE ... CVZBJRamtI

Sorry, but he reminds me too much of Nick Young.

Nick Young with basketball IQ would be a pretty solid player.

I don't think Lamb IQ is all that great compare to Beal,MkG or Thomas Robinson. They just seem way more mature then him I think Lamb We turn into another chucker witch wizards do not need anymore.

[Rafael122]

Chad Ford's Twitter: Bradley Beal 6'3.25" in socks, 6'4.75'' in shoes, 6'8'' wing span and 8'3'' reach. Pick him, he measures out extremely well.