SixerFan1976 Offseason Thread (Update Pg 73)

[freshie2]

Of Jefferson and Pau, I prefer Jefferson as well...just think Pau is too emotionally fragile to play here and even in the best case scenario, he doesn't get the team over the top. Jefferson is younger, more physical, and I think would be a better fit as either a PF or C.

I still would be fine with dealing into the top 10 if you have a chance to get a player with higher upside, but I get that Al Jeff may be the best value you can get. He's not perfect, but he's a nice interior player who still has a lot of prime years ahead of him.

[FlightBrothers]

I would also lean more towards Al Jefferson, but I would rather go in a different direction. The more I think about it I would like to leave this draft with Andre Drummond....

My first choice would be Drummond through a trade and I would hope for a Sullinger/Henson or Kendall marshall at #15, while looking to use the cap space we hopefully will have to grab that dynamic scorer/shooter at the 2/3

any interest in Danny Green sixers fan? I would love to steal him away if we could from the Spurs for our bench. He plays great defense and is a good 3 point shooter...

I just dont know if Doug Collins would want to wait to allow the time needed for Drummond to hit his stride...

Also if Bynum or Dwight become available for a trade a guy like Drummond if hes starting to show potential could be a great bargaining chip at the trade deadline...

[PhilasFinest]

i agree....if you can get jefferson and earl watson for andre you do it.

i probably try for gasol first..but jefferson is a nice consolation prize.

then you need to find a scoring guard or SF with the amnesty of brand.

take best available at 15 and go from there. if you want to move up a little to get a guy you like..fine.....

thats how i would do it..would be completely happy with gasol or jefferson to be honest......

Initially I was on board with trading Iguodala for Gasol...but as I think about what I want to get for Iguodala, trading the last 2 years of his deal for the last two years of Gasol's deal (or Jefferson's deal) gets us what? Do either of those guys get this roster to the ECF? I doubt it. And what happens in two years when their contracts run out? Are you re-signing them? I sure as hell ain't gonna do it. Will either of those guys fit the roster better? Yes...but unless you can get the the ECF with a legit shot to win, how does that move the ball down the field? If we make a deal for either Gasol or Jefferson, assuming that Rose comes back at close to the player that he was, I see Chicago, Indiana and Miami still all clearly better than us...so what is the point of adding Gasol?

+1

SF why would you be happy with such move? Do you believe they will be a contender with Gasol?

Jefferon might n make us a contender immediately. But he's a 20-10 big, that's hard to find. Having one in place that's only 27 and not a huge burden or length wise via contract is a plus. If he proves to be a good piece, u can build around him for the next 3-5 years. If not you part ways n open up more cap room.

[Stills12]

What's the trade being discussed that gets us Jefferson?

[PhilasFinest]

What's the trade being discussed that gets us Jefferson?

Iguodala for Jefferson n earl Watson.

[sixerfan1976]

Buddy of mine said he heard out in Sactown that there is talk about Tyreke for Evan Turner. This is not from my source but just something he heard...figured I would pass it along.

[PhilasFinest]

Buddy of mine said he heard out in Sactown that there is talk about Tyreke for Evan Turner. This is not from my source but just something he heard...figured I would pass it along.

Hmm interesting. We would have to be high on him, considering he's gonna be up for an extension soon.
At least he gets to the FT line

Not sure he is a great fit with iguodala but I may be interested.

[freshie2]

Buddy of mine said he heard out in Sactown that there is talk about Tyreke for Evan Turner. This is not from my source but just something he heard...figured I would pass it along.

I'm not the biggest fan of Tyreke, but this would be an interesting deal...still need a shooter, but this upgrades the backcourt.

[PhilasFinest]

I like that tyreke has that attack mentality. He can take over a game and isn't shy to attack n get to the line.

We need a Killer instinct player.

[sixerswillrule]

Jefferon might n make us a contender immediately. But he's a 20-10 big, that's hard to find. Having one in place that's only 27 and not a huge burden or length wise via contract is a plus. If he proves to be a good piece, u can build around him for the next 3-5 years. If not you part ways n open up more cap room.

Jefferson needs 18 shots to score 20 points. He's not an efficient scorer, and he's not an interior defensive presence. He's peaked. He's not someone to build around. There's no reason to trade for him. If we want a rebounder and low post scorer, get the 20 year old Sullinger, not the 27 year old Jefferson who will only help in keeping us mediocre and could be gone in a year, leaving us with nothing...

[Sixerlover]

Buddy of mine said he heard out in Sactown that there is talk about Tyreke for Evan Turner. This is not from my source but just something he heard...figured I would pass it along.

Off the court issues could come into play. I'd love Reke at the 2 because Jrue is a solid enough 3pt shooter that defenses would have to be honest, and that would let Reke operate driving to the lane and getting to the free throw line where he excels.

On the court would be great, but Reke back home could bring back some bad habits, more specifically bad friends from his past. I'd fear that if I was the FO

[bebopdeluxe]

Jefferon might n make us a contender immediately. But he's a 20-10 big, that's hard to find. Having one in place that's only 27 and not a huge burden or length wise via contract is a plus. If he proves to be a good piece, u can build around him for the next 3-5 years. If not you part ways n open up more cap room.

Jefferson needs 18 shots to score 20 points. He's not an efficient scorer, and he's not an interior defensive presence. He's peaked. He's not someone to build around. There's no reason to trade for him. If we want a rebounder and low post scorer, get the 20 year old Sullinger, not the 27 year old Jefferson who will only help in keeping us mediocre and could be gone in a year, leaving us with nothing...

+1

[mybestfiend]

Tyreke for Evan Turner is great for us. Evans is great if he isn't playing the point, which he wouldn't here... I could get behind a starting 5 of Jrue/Evans/Iggy/Brand replacement/Vucevic

[766776]

make that Turner for Evans! then get Jamison from free agency!
Holiday/Evans/Iguodala/Brand/Jamison!!!

[51X3RF4N]

What is the appeal for Evans? His assists, rebounds, 3pt shot, and pt totals have all gotten progressively worse since his rookie season. His FT shooting is just average at 77%. And he turns the ball over 3 times a game on average.

I get that he attacks the rim and is aggressive on offense, but why couldn't we trade for an actual shooting threat if we are going to trade ET. Like, Wes Matthews or Eric Gordon or anyone else who can knock down a 3 with consistency.

[PhilasFinest]

Jefferon might n make us a contender immediately. But he's a 20-10 big, that's hard to find. Having one in place that's only 27 and not a huge burden or length wise via contract is a plus. If he proves to be a good piece, u can build around him for the next 3-5 years. If not you part ways n open up more cap room.

Jefferson needs 18 shots to score 20 points. He's not an efficient scorer, and he's not an interior defensive presence. He's peaked. He's not someone to build around. There's no reason to trade for him. If we want a rebounder and low post scorer, get the 20 year old Sullinger, not the 27 year old Jefferson who will only help in keeping us mediocre and could be gone in a year, leaving us with nothing...

How many shots should someone take to score 20 In your eyes? 10? Good luck finding that.

If he shoots 18 shots and makes 10, that's a bad thing? He improved on defense this year.
He averaged almost a steal per game and 2blocks. He's far from as bad as some of you's make him out to be.

[The Sixer Fixer]

Evans would be good value for Turner, but I think he's due for a contract extension after next year. I'm not sure of the fit either. I mean, the reason you are doing a deal like this is to get better fit, right (meaning someone who can shoot)? It's possible Evans is an even worse shooter than Turner.

I kinda feel like this would be better as a 3 way deal where Evans goes somewhere else and we get a SG from that 3rd team. Maybe a team like Portland where we get Matthews (and something else?).

[Sixersftw]

What is the appeal for Evans? His assists, rebounds, 3pt shot, and pt totals have all gotten progressively worse since his rookie season. His FT shooting is just average at 77%. And he turns the ball over 3 times a game on average.

The appeal is that he is a clear primary offensive option. The idea, or at least my idea, is that he has played for a franchise in a pretty terrible situation from an ownership, location, personnel, and coaching perspective. Maybe he could turn it around at home w/ a better franchise situation. The flipside of course is old friend encourage bad habits. I'm torn on this trade but in a pinch, I do it.

[sixerswillrule]

Jefferon might n make us a contender immediately. But he's a 20-10 big, that's hard to find. Having one in place that's only 27 and not a huge burden or length wise via contract is a plus. If he proves to be a good piece, u can build around him for the next 3-5 years. If not you part ways n open up more cap room.

Jefferson needs 18 shots to score 20 points. He's not an efficient scorer, and he's not an interior defensive presence. He's peaked. He's not someone to build around. There's no reason to trade for him. If we want a rebounder and low post scorer, get the 20 year old Sullinger, not the 27 year old Jefferson who will only help in keeping us mediocre and could be gone in a year, leaving us with nothing...

How many shots should someone take to score 20 In your eyes? 10? Good luck finding that.

If he shoots 18 shots and makes 10, that's a bad thing? He improved on defense this year.
He averaged almost a steal per game and 2blocks. He's far from as bad as some of you's make him out to be.

It's called getting to the free throw line, which Jefferson is one of the worst in the league at doing, which is why his scoring efficiency overall is below average. His defense is also below average. He's not bad. He's just not that good. He's peaked as a player and there's no reason to trade for a player like him only to keep this team mediocre.

[KrazySixersD]

arent tyreke and turner basically the same exact player except one was allowed to ahve the keys and play PG while the other wasnt?

they are like the same in every regard... size, style everything