1st rd pick general discussion #2 overall (Poll Added)

captaincrunk · Post #981 » by **captaincrunk** » Fri Jun 8, 2012 10:39 pm

freakon0mics wrote:
fatlever wrote:1. beal - 16-20ppg
2. robinson - 14-18ppg
3. mkg - 13-17ppg
4. barnes - 12-16ppg
5. drummond - 10-14ppg

These would be my guesses as well. It just depends on what team their on too. Barnes would score 18-20ppg with a point guard that can facilitate. Beal would be a 20-25ppg scorer if he is the main offensive option.

if he reached 20 in year 3, then if he's not the #2 someone will look pretty silly

doc.end · Post #982 » by **doc.end** » Fri Jun 8, 2012 11:17 pm

Still Drummond hasn't got great reach somehow - comparing to Bismack's one

Post #983 » by **Diop** » Sat Jun 9, 2012 12:28 am

doc.end wrote:Still Drummond hasn't got great reach somehow - comparing to Bismack's one

fatlever wrote:
Jonathan Givony: Andre Drummond's 7'6.25 wingspan is a top 20 measurement in our database all time: http://bit.ly/KgSrAt about 3 hours ago

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz1xEXamoN3

I keep flip flopping between T Rob and Drummond.

There is so much risk with Drummond, but I'm intrigued. Great physical specimen.

But I'm still scared he will turn into Keon Clark.

Stun704 · Post #984 » by **Stun704** » Sat Jun 9, 2012 12:30 am

Sachmo wrote:
doc.end wrote:Still Drummond hasn't got great reach somehow - comparing to Bismack's one

fatlever wrote:
Jonathan Givony: Andre Drummond's 7'6.25 wingspan is a top 20 measurement in our database all time: http://bit.ly/KgSrAt about 3 hours ago

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz1xEXamoN3

I keep flip flopping between T Rob and Drummond.

There is so much risk with Drummond, but I'm intrigued. Great physical specimen.

But I'm still scared he will turn into Keon Clark.

Just remember, despite Drummonds physical stats, he failed to dominate at the college level, don't get caught up in the hype

Post #985 » by **BigSlam** » Sat Jun 9, 2012 12:32 am

Stun704 wrote:Just remember, despite Drummonds physical stats, he failed to dominate at the college level, don't get caught up in the hype

Ya, but neither did your boy until his 3rd year.................

Stun704 · Post #986 » by **Stun704** » Sat Jun 9, 2012 12:34 am

BigSlam wrote:
Stun704 wrote:Just remember, despite Drummonds physical stats, he failed to dominate at the college level, don't get caught up in the hype

Ya, but neither did your boy until his 3rd year.................

he didn't get a chance to til his 3rd year.....

Post #987 » by **BigSlam** » Sat Jun 9, 2012 12:36 am

Stun704 wrote:
BigSlam wrote:
Stun704 wrote:Just remember, despite Drummonds physical stats, he failed to dominate at the college level, don't get caught up in the hype

Ya, but neither did your boy until his 3rd year.................

he didn't get a chance to til his 3rd year.....

Because like Drummond, he wasn't really ready that early in his career.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,

Post #988 » by **Diop** » Sat Jun 9, 2012 12:36 am

those measurements are odd.

Just checking that link.
Drummond is 6'9 3/4 with a 7'6 1/4 wingspan and has a standing reach of 9'1
Henson is shorter 6'9 with a smaller wingspan 7'5 but has a better standing reach of 9'3.

EDIT* Kyle of Quinn is even short etc and has a better reach than Drummond.

How does that work?

James Gatz · Post #989 » by **James Gatz** » Sat Jun 9, 2012 12:39 am

Sachmo wrote:those measurements are odd.

Just checking that link.
Drummond is 6'9 3/4 with a 7'6 1/4 wingspan and has a standing reach of 9'1
Henson is shorter 6'9 with a smaller wingspan 7'5 but has a better standing reach of 9'3.

EDIT* Kyle of Quinn is even short etc and has a better reach than Drummond.

How does that work?

Henson has longer arms but not as wide shoulders.

Post #990 » by **Diop** » Sat Jun 9, 2012 12:40 am

I'm guessing Drummond didn't bother to stretch or something

Post #991 » by **Diop** » Sat Jun 9, 2012 12:41 am

ah k, didn't think of that.

Bobcatsbball · Post #992 » by **Bobcatsbball** » Sat Jun 9, 2012 1:02 am

I have said this before the lottery...if we don't get the #1 pick, it may be a good thing because it will give us more options. I really think our roster will be largely different next season...I just have that feeling...like Boston's roster was revamped after they were disappointed about not getting the #1 pick with Oden/Durant draft. It's interesting to see everyone's thoughts but I think this pick will be traded.

HasheemThabeet · Post #993 » by **HasheemThabeet** » Sat Jun 9, 2012 1:16 am

Hollinger and DX was saying that prospects tank the standing reach measurements to pad their vertical measurements. Apparently verticals get measured by subtracting what you touch on the stick minus what your standing reach is

TheKingofSting · Post #994 » by **TheKingofSting** » Sat Jun 9, 2012 1:27 am

Bobcatsbball wrote:I have said this before the lottery...if we don't get the #1 pick, it may be a good thing because it will give us more options. I really think our roster will be largely different next season...I just have that feeling...like Boston's roster was revamped after they were disappointed about not getting the #1 pick with Oden/Durant draft. It's interesting to see everyone's thoughts but I think this pick will be traded.

We don't need to do anything drastic or try for a quick fix, I hope we stay with the rebuilding plan.

Bobcatsbball · Post #995 » by **Bobcatsbball** » Sat Jun 9, 2012 1:57 am

Kemba2Hendo wrote:
Bobcatsbball wrote:I have said this before the lottery...if we don't get the #1 pick, it may be a good thing because it will give us more options. I really think our roster will be largely different next season...I just have that feeling...like Boston's roster was revamped after they were disappointed about not getting the #1 pick with Oden/Durant draft. It's interesting to see everyone's thoughts but I think this pick will be traded.

We don't need to do anything drastic or try for a quick fix, I hope we stay with the rebuilding plan.

I agree...I don't think we will do anything drastic. I just think it will be a lot of new faces. That cap space we have coming open is too valuable so I don't think Cho will revamp while sacrificing that cap space unless we get something great. As much as I hate to say it, that Rudy Gay nightmare is looking more and more real. I hope we can keep the pick...I'm sorry but i'm all in on Robinson. For every weakness Robinson has, MKG has some as well. I just think Robinson will be a beast.

Eoghan · Post #996 » by **Eoghan** » Sat Jun 9, 2012 2:01 am

Stun704 wrote:Just remember, despite Drummonds physical stats, he failed to dominate at the college level, don't get caught up in the hype

Just remember, his freshman year at UConn was basically his senior year in high school, so his 10/8/3 blocks (I rounded up) against some of the best competition in college basketball were done so by a HS senior.

Whereas your boy sat buried behind Cole Aldrich and the Morris twins on the pecking order. 8-)

HasheemThabeet · Post #997 » by **HasheemThabeet** » Sat Jun 9, 2012 2:12 am

Drummond didn't leave high school early though, guy was gonna go to a post grad year for no reason

freakon0mics · Post #998 » by **freakon0mics** » Sat Jun 9, 2012 2:31 am

Can someone tell me why T-Rob couldn't get more minutes against the Morris twins a couple of seasons ago? It just seems weird that a guy who is projected to be a top 5 pick in a deep draft could not beat out 2 players who were barely lottery picks in a weak draft.

Leolovinliberal · Post #999 » by **Leolovinliberal** » Sat Jun 9, 2012 2:36 am

I voted for TRob, but I must voice my displeasure in the absurdity of having Harrison Bust in this poll. The guy can't create his own shot, can't drive to the hoop, isn't very athletic and the one thing that he's supposedly known for; shooting, he isn't very good at. When his stud pg got hurt in MM and wasn't their to set him up for set shot jumpers, he was pathetic. Do you guys not remember him getting shut down by 6'2 guards from the Ohio Bobcats? This guy is so over rated it's a joke. :nonono:

SWedd523 · Post #1000 » by **SWedd523** » Sat Jun 9, 2012 2:57 am

Leolovinliberal wrote:I voted for TRob, but I must voice my displeasure in the absurdity of having Harrison Bust in this poll. The guy can't create his own shot, can't drive to the hoop, isn't very athletic and the one thing that he's supposedly known for; shooting, he isn't very good at. When his stud pg got hurt in MM and wasn't their to set him up for set shot jumpers, he was pathetic. Do you guys not remember him getting shut down by 6'2 guards from the Ohio Bobcats? This guy is so over rated it's a joke.

We need to draft a PG to replace Kemba Chucker.

Dude is a worse Nate Robinson

Who should the Bobcats draft at #2?