Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Jeremy Lamb (HOU)

highness · Post #521 » by **highness** » Sat Jun 9, 2012 12:03 am

fredericklove wrote:Lol highness, keep dodging the Demar topic. I understand that very clearly lol.

Demar + Rudy now that's a combo I can get with.

Post #522 » by **Undefeated** » Sat Jun 9, 2012 12:06 am

highness wrote:
Undefeated wrote:
Reignman wrote:There's virtually no way we draft this guy. im going by caseys comment that first and foremost they are looking for high energy/motor and Lamb doesn't come close to fitting the bill.

I won't be upset if we pick him but i don't think it's likely.

Well, the coaching staff and management have went on record to say they want a shooter, so I wouldn't say there's virtually no chance the Raptors draft Jeremy Lamb.

They also said they wanted a guy with motor.

All I'm saying is, the Raptors are looking for shooters as well, so I wouldn't exclude guys with low motors, but are lights out shooters. And this talk about Lamb doesn't have a motor is pure hyperbole. He played with extreme intensity during UConn's NCAA Championship run.

BirdmanPresents · Post #523 » by **BirdmanPresents** » Sat Jun 9, 2012 12:07 am

highness wrote:
fredericklove wrote:Lol highness, keep dodging the Demar topic. I understand that very clearly lol.

Demar + Rudy now that's a combo I can get with.

You want to get with Rudy too and make it a threesome??

highness · Post #524 » by **highness** » Sat Jun 9, 2012 12:11 am

BirdmanPresents wrote:
highness wrote:
fredericklove wrote:Lol highness, keep dodging the Demar topic. I understand that very clearly lol.

Demar + Rudy now that's a combo I can get with.

You want to get with Rudy too and make it a threesome??

Reported. Very uncalled for.

Post #525 » by **DG88** » Sat Jun 9, 2012 12:17 am

Undefeated wrote:All I'm saying is, the Raptors are looking for shooters as well, so I wouldn't exclude guys with low motors, but are lights out shooters. And this talk about Lamb doesn't have a motor is pure hyperbole. He played with extreme intensity during UConn's NCAA Championship run.

It's true that we are looking for shooters but wouldn't it be better to have a prospect that is a good shooter and has a high motor as well. We've seen even in these playoffs how big it is to have mental toughness and character. There's a reason why I'm not big on guys like PJ3 or Lamb, they're skilled but when push comes to shove they don't push back. It's one of the reasons why mental makeup is the biggest thing I look for in a prospect.

MainEvent · Post #526 » by **MainEvent** » Sat Jun 9, 2012 12:21 am

DG88 wrote:
Undefeated wrote:All I'm saying is, the Raptors are looking for shooters as well, so I wouldn't exclude guys with low motors, but are lights out shooters. And this talk about Lamb doesn't have a motor is pure hyperbole. He played with extreme intensity during UConn's NCAA Championship run.

It's true that we are looking for shooters but wouldn't it be better to have a prospect that is a good shooter and has a high motor as well. We've seen even in these playoffs how big it is to have mental toughness and character. There's a reason why I'm not big on guys like PJ3 or Lamb, they're skilled but when push comes to shove they don't push back. It's one of the reasons why mental makeup is the biggest thing I look for in a prospect.

I just read your post and agree, then I clicked the link in your signature... how old is that? You can lump him in with the others in your post lol

Waylon Mercy · Post #527 » by **Waylon Mercy** » Sat Jun 9, 2012 12:24 am

DG88 wrote:
Undefeated wrote:All I'm saying is, the Raptors are looking for shooters as well, so I wouldn't exclude guys with low motors, but are lights out shooters. And this talk about Lamb doesn't have a motor is pure hyperbole. He played with extreme intensity during UConn's NCAA Championship run.

It's true that we are looking for shooters but wouldn't it be better to have a prospect that is a good shooter and has a high motor as well. We've seen even in these playoffs how big it is to have mental toughness and character. There's a reason why I'm not big on guys like PJ3 or Lamb, they're skilled but when push comes to shove they don't push back. It's one of the reasons why mental makeup is the biggest thing I look for in a prospect.

I think Lambs laid back personality and motor is over blown...Its the 8th pick so while I admit
its one of his red flags its not that big of a deal to me. Joe Johnson is a laid back quiet guy
that doesn't exactly have the best motor in the world but he can ball. Durant was also a
quiet shy kid who was also a tooth pick when he came into the league.

I know you're a huge Lillard fan but if he goes 6th to PTL who do you want?

Post #528 » by **Undefeated** » Sat Jun 9, 2012 12:28 am

DG88 wrote:It's true that we are looking for shooters but wouldn't it be better to have a prospect that is a good shooter and has a high motor as well. We've seen even in these playoffs how big it is to have mental toughness and character. There's a reason why I'm not big on guys like PJ3 or Lamb, they're skilled but when push comes to shove they don't push back. It's one of the reasons why mental makeup is the biggest thing I look for in a prospect.

How come his motor was a non issue in his freshman year, then? This is why I don't have concerns with how hard he plays because he's proven on the biggest stage in college ball that he can play. At the end of the day, talent is still talent, and I'm taking my chances on with Jeremy Lamb. If the Raptors have a chance to draft a prospect that potentially has top 10 SG potential considering how depleted this position will become in 2 or 3 years with Kobe Bryant, Ray Allen, Dwyane Wade, and Joe Johnson on a steep decline, you take Lamb and run. There are plenty of guys who came into the league shy and humble like Derrick Rose and Kevin Durant, so I'm not sure what's the problem.

MainEvent · Post #529 » by **MainEvent** » Sat Jun 9, 2012 12:31 am

shyness is different than having a low motor

Post #530 » by **DG88** » Sat Jun 9, 2012 12:34 am

Undefeated wrote:
DG88 wrote:It's true that we are looking for shooters but wouldn't it be better to have a prospect that is a good shooter and has a high motor as well. We've seen even in these playoffs how big it is to have mental toughness and character. There's a reason why I'm not big on guys like PJ3 or Lamb, they're skilled but when push comes to shove they don't push back. It's one of the reasons why mental makeup is the biggest thing I look for in a prospect.

How come his motor was a non issue in his freshman year, then? This is why I don't have concerns with how hard he plays because he's proven on the biggest stage in college ball that he can play. At the end of the day, talent is still talent, and I'm taking my chances on with Jeremy Lamb. If the Raptors have a chance to draft a prospect that potentially has top 10 SG potential considering how depleted this position will become in 2 or 3 years with Kobe Bryant, Ray Allen, Dwyane Wade, and Joe Johnson on a steep decline, you take Lamb and run. There are plenty of guys who came into the league shy and humble like Derrick Rose and Kevin Durant, so I'm not sure what's the problem.

Because it's something teams have highlighted as a concern, which Lamb has acknowledged. As I said I like his skills but his motor and mental toughness are things I want to know that won't be a problem in the future.

MainEvent · Post #531 » by **MainEvent** » Sat Jun 9, 2012 12:45 am

DG88 do you really want Q miller?

Post #532 » by **DG88** » Sat Jun 9, 2012 12:47 am

MainEvent wrote:DG88 do you really want Q miller?

Whoops no that was waaay back last fall when I put that up forgot about it

Post #533 » by **DG88** » Sat Jun 9, 2012 12:50 am

Waylon Mercy wrote:
DG88 wrote:
Undefeated wrote:All I'm saying is, the Raptors are looking for shooters as well, so I wouldn't exclude guys with low motors, but are lights out shooters. And this talk about Lamb doesn't have a motor is pure hyperbole. He played with extreme intensity during UConn's NCAA Championship run.

It's true that we are looking for shooters but wouldn't it be better to have a prospect that is a good shooter and has a high motor as well. We've seen even in these playoffs how big it is to have mental toughness and character. There's a reason why I'm not big on guys like PJ3 or Lamb, they're skilled but when push comes to shove they don't push back. It's one of the reasons why mental makeup is the biggest thing I look for in a prospect.

I think Lambs laid back personality and motor is over blown...Its the 8th pick so while I admit
its one of his red flags its not that big of a deal to me. Joe Johnson is a laid back quiet guy
that doesn't exactly have the best motor in the world but he can ball. Durant was also a
quiet shy kid who was also a tooth pick when he came into the league.

I know you're a huge Lillard fan but if he goes 6th to PTL who do you want?

I want Lillard but I know that there is a pretty good possibility that Lamb could also be the pick and I'm fine with that. I'm just concerned about his mental makeup is all.

Post #534 » by **Undefeated** » Sat Jun 9, 2012 12:50 am

Why do we keep on choosing to ignore how Lamb's motor wasn't a problem in his freshman year, yet they continually hammer down his lack of a motor in his sophomore year. Just because he did something one year doesn't mean it'll be the same next year. If his motor was such an issue, he would be slacking off plays simply going through the motions and not hustling, but based on his hustle stats like rebounds and steals averaging 5 rpg and 1.2 apg respectively, it's above-average when comparing him against other SGs in DX's top 100 T-8th out of 22 in rebounds and 11 out of 22 for steals. Average to above-average despite playing on a dysfunctional UConn roster this year. In addition, if he had a low motor he wouldn't even choose to run around screens despite not getting regular touches.

BirdmanPresents · Post #535 » by **BirdmanPresents** » Sat Jun 9, 2012 12:57 am

MainEvent wrote:DG88 do you really want Q miller?

I'll take him in the second round

TheDrunkenOak · Post #536 » by **TheDrunkenOak** » Sat Jun 9, 2012 12:57 am

Geez, Lamb is a serious kush head. Now i'm not knocking him for what he is saying through his interviews, just going by his general demeanor.

His interview skills reminds me so much of Michael Beasley's interviews. It's that slow speaking, cloudy and droopy eyes and they can never remember squat. Heck i'm sure many of you know guys just like that.

I think he'll be an offensive juggernaut just like Beasley, but he'll also have a ton of baggage.

I say this kid has some serious red flags.

BirdmanPresents · Post #537 » by **BirdmanPresents** » Sat Jun 9, 2012 1:01 am

TheDrunkenOak wrote:Geez, Lamb is a serious kush head. Now i'm not knocking him for what he is saying through his interviews, just going by his general demeanor.

His interview skills reminds me so much of Michael Beasley's interviews. It's that slow speaking, cloudy and droopy eyes and they can never remember squat. Heck i'm sure many of you know guys just like that.

I think he'll be an offensive juggernaut just like Beasley, but he'll also have a ton of baggage.

I say this kid has some serious red flags.

Don't want to sound too judgemental but I see that as a possibility. I was never that high on Lamb and it seems his stock is dropping now, should of stuck with my guns.

Waylon Mercy · Post #538 » by **Waylon Mercy** » Sat Jun 9, 2012 1:12 am

If being a bad interview and having motor issues makes you do things like this on the court
and helps win you a College Championship where do I sign up?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMFTEiej0mY[/youtube]

fredericklove · Post #539 » by **fredericklove** » Sat Jun 9, 2012 1:27 am

highness wrote:
BirdmanPresents wrote:You want to get with Rudy too and make it a threesome??

Reported. Very uncalled for.

Cmon BP, stop cyberbully highness, he's just a kid

Btw, highness you do know Gay/Demar isn't gonna end well for Demar right? Demar is ineffective if he doesn't get touches. Having Gay as primary/2nd option will warrant himself alot of go-to-guy touches/shot attempts but that will also limit Demar's touches for sure. You want that to happen to your boy?

fredericklove · Post #540 » by **fredericklove** » Sat Jun 9, 2012 1:36 am

DG88 wrote:We've seen even in these playoffs how big it is to have mental toughness and character. There's a reason why I'm not big on guys like PJ3 or Lamb, they're skilled but when push comes to shove they don't push back. It's one of the reasons why mental makeup is the biggest thing I look for in a prospect.

Have you even seen Lamb in the 2011 tourney in his freshman season? That's pretty much a playoff setting for Lamb at that time, and he was absolutely locked in during the tourney, and played exceptionally well. His tourney performances were main reason why he garnered top scouts' attentions.

If still on the Board by our pick what are the chanches we draft him?