Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXV: Offseason Edition)

[thelead]

Peaches and Bass play hard but drive me crazy with stupid plays.

You know what drives me crazy? Seeing Mr. PER disappear in the playoffs. Let's trade Ryan and JRich for Bass and Peaches

LOL please not the Ryan debate again. Lets agree to suspend Ryan chat til we get a GM.

I can agree with that.

[AddiFB]

[CPBalla2003 n da 863]

Haha ^^

[PeePee la Fritz]

I'm just gonna make sure I get this on the record. I will not be a happy camper if Orlando hires Penn. I want no part of that guy. I will fly in from LA and riot if it's Bower. Lindsey or Weaver or bust for me for GM. I have no confidence in Penn as a head guy.

[thelead]

I'm just gonna make sure I get this on the record. I will not be a happy camper if Orlando hires Penn. I want no part of that guy. I will fly in from LA and riot if it's Bower. Lindsey or Weaver or bust for me for GM. I have no confidence in Penn as a head guy.

I'm with you on that one too.

[ChildishGambino]

I'm just gonna make sure I get this on the record. I will not be a happy camper if Orlando hires Penn. I want no part of that guy. I will fly in from LA and riot if it's Bower. Lindsey or Weaver or bust for me for GM. I have no confidence in Penn as a head guy.

ok i'll bite.....why?

[thelead]

I'm just gonna make sure I get this on the record. I will not be a happy camper if Orlando hires Penn. I want no part of that guy. I will fly in from LA and riot if it's Bower. Lindsey or Weaver or bust for me for GM. I have no confidence in Penn as a head guy.

ok i'll bite.....why?

I'll answer that for him. Knowing how the cap works =\= knowing what players to bring in. Him wanting Lopez over Bynum is a great example of that. He also seems arrogant, ala Otis. Lindsey and Weaver seem to be guys that just do their jobs and aren't outspoken about it. Lindsey has even turned down opportunities because he didn't feel he could win. That's the type of guy you want.

And I'm sure someone will respond with "he'll be better than Otis". My response to that is "no $&@!". If that's anyone's response, check your standards because they're low.

[NickAnderson]

Bring on the Doc rumors now.

[ChildishGambino]

From what i've read there was a contractual reason why Penn wanted Lopez over Bynum....made sense to me when i looked at if from the business side rather than the basketball side....His resume is impressive...he has the acumen required for the job....he has the experience...i'm not seeing the problem....but everyone is entitled to their own opinion so i respect that.....

[MagicTownBaller]

Doc Rivers is overrated.

[ADRajX]

Doc just named dropped our "Heart n Hustle" Orlando Magic squad in his post-game conference just now.

"I also had an amazing group down in Orlando, called the 'Heart n Hustle' team..."

Thanks for the shout-out Doc.

[Reverse_Angle]

doc rivers mentioned our heart and hustle team in the press conference.

[glennathan]

Doc Rivers giving some love to the Heart and Hustle team in his post game speech. Said this Boston team was just like that bunch doing everything he said and leaving it all out on the floor every night.

[ChildishGambino]

guys are reaching here lol

[Def Swami]

I'd much rather have Doc as a coach, but him in the front office wouldn't be too shabby. Doc = Dwight extension

I think we look too deeply into Doc's first run with us as a first-time head coach and discredit what he has done in Boston the past 4-5 years. He's come a long way and to be completely honest, the roster we had when Doc coached shouldn't have even made the playoffs some seasons.

[PeePee la Fritz]

I'm just gonna make sure I get this on the record. I will not be a happy camper if Orlando hires Penn. I want no part of that guy. I will fly in from LA and riot if it's Bower. Lindsey or Weaver or bust for me for GM. I have no confidence in Penn as a head guy.

ok i'll bite.....why?

I'll answer that for him. Knowing how the cap works =\= knowing what players to bring in. Him wanting Lopez over Bynum is a great example of that. He also seems arrogant, ala Otis. Lindsey and Weaver seem to be guys that just do their jobs and aren't outspoken about it. Lindsey has even turned down opportunities because he didn't feel he could win. That's the type of guy you want.

And I'm sure someone will respond with "he'll be better than Otis". My response to that is "no $&@!". If that's anyone's response, check your standards because they're low.

All of that is spot on, plus what did Penn accomplish in Portland? Where was the trip to the finals? Where is the championship experience? The dude was Pritchard's cap guy. Give me Lindsey or Weaver all day.

[arsenal6106]

I'm just gonna make sure I get this on the record. I will not be a happy camper if Orlando hires Penn. I want no part of that guy. I will fly in from LA and riot if it's Bower. Lindsey or Weaver or bust for me for GM. I have no confidence in Penn as a head guy.

ok i'll bite.....why?

I'll answer that for him. Knowing how the cap works =\= knowing what players to bring in. Him wanting Lopez over Bynum is a great example of that. He also seems arrogant, ala Otis. Lindsey and Weaver seem to be guys that just do their jobs and aren't outspoken about it. Lindsey has even turned down opportunities because he didn't feel he could win. That's the type of guy you want.

And I'm sure someone will respond with "he'll be better than Otis". My response to that is "no $&@!". If that's anyone's response, check your standards because they're low.

Just curious, what examples can you show that Penn is arrogant and the others aren't?
Maybe I missed something.

Also, just like another poster just said, Penn had a pretty good logic in why he would've picked Lopez over Bynum. Remember, he said that before the season started, when lopze had his injury. I'm sure his perception has probably changed at this point.

OS: People are focusing on Andrew Bynum or Brook Lopez as being involved in a deal. Who would you rather have?

Penn: They’re both young and both developing. Contractually, I would probably prefer Brook Lopez because of the contractual advantage I would have. He is still on his rookie-scale contract, which means that the Magic would have the opportunity to extend his contract and be the only team that could do so, and they would have restricted free-agency rights. The likelihood of having a stable, long-term center would be there with Brook.

Bynum’s got an injury history, and Lopez has been pretty solid.

[thelead]

I remember there being a huge issue with Pritchard and Penn with how they went around talking about how great they were and how underpaid they were IIRC. It was one of the reasons that they were let go by Portland. Also, have you watched him on ESPN? He just seems arrogant.

About the contractural situation between Lopez and Bynum: would you rather pay Lopez $10 mil (because that's what he'll probably get) or Bynum $16 mil? I would go Bynum all day everyday for the extra $6 mil. While he made that comment in the beginning of the year, I can be quoted as saying that I would rather have Bynum over Lopez, even then. Lopez doesn't play defense and has troubles pulling more than 7 rebounds PER GAME.

[Def Swami]

I remember there being a huge issue with Pritchard and Penn with how they went around talking about how great they were and how underpaid they were IIRC. It was one of the reasons that they were let go by Portland. Also, have you watched him on ESPN? He just seems arrogant.

About the contractural situation between Lopez and Bynum: would you rather pay Lopez $10 mil (because that's what he'll probably get) or Bynum $16 mil? I would go Bynum all day everyday for the extra $6 mil. While he made that comment in the beginning of the year, I can be quoted as saying that I would rather have Bynum over Lopez, even then. Lopez doesn't play defense and has troubles pulling more than 7 rebounds PER GAME.

The interview where he said he'd take Lopez because of his contract was conducted in December, when Lopez was still on his rookie deal. And he mentions the questions with Bynum's knees. No one knew Bynum would play a full season healthy back in December. I think Penn's logic there is sound.

As for the arrogance, that's debatable. I've never seen him come off as so, but everyone has a unique impression of a person. I tried looking for why both Penn and Pritchard were fired online and couldn't find a definitive answer, but speculation was that ownership didn't like how much power Penn was wielding as an assistant GM.

I like his knowledge of the cap and how to use it; that's definitely a coveted asset. And I think had the Blazers not ran into injuries, they would have done a lot better. Watching the combine and reading up on him, he does have a good feel for how the game is played and what a team needs to be successful. I think he's a legitimately good candidate.

With that said, I think Lindsey is our guy. To me he stands head and shoulders above the rest. Him coming from a championship culture in San Antonio, he knows how a front office is supposed to conduct itself and which players exude optimal professionalism to create a championship mentality in the locker room. Whoever comes in will be expected to hold everyone, coaches and players included, to higher accountability and build a consistent culture of winning. I think Lindsey is the best guy for it. In my order of preference...Lindsey, Weaver, and Penn are all good candidates.

[glennathan]

I know it was mentioned earlier, but if Jameer was to opt out on his deal, would anyone here be interested in looking at Tyreke Evans? I could not find the page it was talked about to see what the responses looked like