2012 NBA Draft - Part V

[Knighthonor]

So let's say that Bael goes at 2#.

Who should thee wizards then pick?

[truwizfan4evr]

So let's say that Bael goes at 2#.

Who should thee wizards then pick?

i would think wiz should take Robinson i think he will be a allstar in nba.

[hands11]

From the draft board:

The more I look at these measurements, the more I'm suspicious. Drummond's height and wingspan are very similar to DeAndre Jordan and Demarcus Cousins, but his reach 3.5-4 inches shorter. Zeller is the same height as Chris Kaman with a longer wingspan, but somehow has 6 inches less reach. Perry Jones has the same reach as Kevin Love despite being 2.5 inches taller and 2.5 inches longer wingspan. Meyers Leonard and Anthony Davis have the same reach as Derrick Williams despite being significantly taller and longer.

Something seems off with the way they are measuring standing reach this year.

The need to sandwich then in some mechanic thing so they have to stand straight and then just measure from their shoulder to their finger tips. Or anchor there heels and put something on their wrist that pulls them up. Or just stick some hot girl ass on a ledge.

Standing reach can be computed.

[hands11]

Watching the combine, I've solidified my choices at 3 to be Thomas Robinson and Bradley Beal. To me they seem the most mature, the most ready to contribute, and they have as much upside as anyone. Measurements aside, just watching them on the court with these other prospects they stand out. Their demeanor and how they carry themselves, as well as how they just look physically.

At 3 I want either Robinson or Beal.

At 32 I'm liking Jeff Taylor, Doron Lamb, and Darius Miller.

At 46 I'm interested in Scott Machado, Hollis Thompson, and Buford.


If it's between Beal and Robinson at 3 (if Bobcats take MKG)... I think my mind says Beal, but heart says Robinson. The interviews I've seen and read, and his desire to play for DC, to me he's the guy. I mean the thought of essentially replacing Blatche on this team with Robinson could be such a revelation for this franchise, and give this team the kick in the pants it needs for a real turnaround.

Regarding Beal and Robinson, that is pretty much where I have been for a while now. To bad we can't get both.

[vabigpoppa]

i keep switching between Beal & MKG....right now im on the MKG bandwagon.....his passion & work ethic is what has me leaning towards him. It's definitely something the wizards are lacking. im still hoping we can pick up an additional 1st rd pick some how. im down w/ trading anybody but nene, seraphin, and wall.

[omegatronic3]

Now on to Robinson:
I was surprised to see his wingspan but his standing reach also puts him in the undersized camp. Hes basically the same size as Kevin Love.

You might want to think about the logic there. You guys ranking players because of these measurements are generally way off, imo.

Im not ranking players or saying that Robinson will be Kevin Love because hes the same size or that Beal will be OJ Mayo but like it or not size is a factor. It may not reflect as much on offense but it will cause missmatch problems on D if a player is undersized. Look at Jamison..Id take his offense any day but he couldnt guard a paper bag cos he was too small to guard a 4 and not quick enough to guard a 3.
Would Kevin Durant be as effective if he was 6'7"? No size matters and is a factor.
Im certainly not suggesting size is all that matters.. I would steer clear of guys like Drummond who have size but havent showed much else but its heard to get too excited about an undersized 2 guard with the 3rd pick

[Knighthonor]

So let's say that Bael goes at 2#.

Who should thee wizards then pick?

i would think wiz should take Robinson i think he will be a allstar in nba.

Wow wtf
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Tho ... nson-5496/
This dude seem great. If only he had a jumper like Durant!!!!

[jangles86]

It's Robinson or Beal.

It will be great either way, a Guard who plays off the ball and shoots and rebounds. Or a strong leader at the 4 who is Guarenteed to be a strong defender in the paint.

No way we take MKG ahead of either those two, the shooting would be horrendous

[popper]

Beal reminds me a lot of Jeff Malone. Steady, smart, pure stroke and lets the game come to them vs. forcing things. We could do worse and no doubt we are desperate for floor-spreaders.

[Ruzious]

From the draft board:

The more I look at these measurements, the more I'm suspicious. Drummond's height and wingspan are very similar to DeAndre Jordan and Demarcus Cousins, but his reach 3.5-4 inches shorter. Zeller is the same height as Chris Kaman with a longer wingspan, but somehow has 6 inches less reach. Perry Jones has the same reach as Kevin Love despite being 2.5 inches taller and 2.5 inches longer wingspan. Meyers Leonard and Anthony Davis have the same reach as Derrick Williams despite being significantly taller and longer.

Something seems off with the way they are measuring standing reach this year.

The need to sandwich then in some mechanic thing so they have to stand straight and then just measure from their shoulder to their finger tips. Or anchor there heels and put something on their wrist that pulls them up. Or just stick some hot girl ass on a ledge.

Standing reach can be computed.

And what absolutely shows there's a problem is Jae's standing reach. When he measure 3.75 inches shorter than he was measured just a few weeks earlier in Joizy, that can't be rationalized away.

[nate33]

i keep switching between Beal & MKG....right now im on the MKG bandwagon.....his passion & work ethic is what has me leaning towards him. It's definitely something the wizards are lacking. im still hoping we can pick up an additional 1st rd pick some how. im down w/ trading anybody but nene, seraphin, and wall.

I don't think this is true anymore. This isn't Andray Blatche's Wizards. With Nene, Seraphin, Booker, Vesely, Wall and Crawford, this team is full of guys who work hard and love to play. MKG would certainly fit into the new mindset, but I don't think we are a team that needs his leadership.

[DCZards]

i keep switching between Beal & MKG....right now im on the MKG bandwagon.....his passion & work ethic is what has me leaning towards him. It's definitely something the wizards are lacking. im still hoping we can pick up an additional 1st rd pick some how. im down w/ trading anybody but nene, seraphin, and wall.

I don't think this is true anymore. This isn't Andray Blatche's Wizards. With Nene, Seraphin, Booker, Vesely, Wall and Crawford, this team is full of guys who work hard and love to play. MKG would certainly fit into the new mindset, but I don't think we are a team that needs his leadership.

Agreed. I think people are living in the past when they say the Zards need MKG to be a leader and show them how to play hard.

[sfam]

i keep switching between Beal & MKG....right now im on the MKG bandwagon.....his passion & work ethic is what has me leaning towards him. It's definitely something the wizards are lacking. im still hoping we can pick up an additional 1st rd pick some how. im down w/ trading anybody but nene, seraphin, and wall.

I don't think this is true anymore. This isn't Andray Blatche's Wizards. With Nene, Seraphin, Booker, Vesely, Wall and Crawford, this team is full of guys who work hard and love to play. MKG would certainly fit into the new mindset, but I don't think we are a team that needs his leadership.

This is why my money's on Charlotte taking MKG - they really need his leadership in a big way.

[Wizardspride]

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Who helped their stock the most in Chicago, according to sources? Draymond Green, Hollis Thompson, Will Barton, Damian Lillard, Meyers Leonard, Austin Rivers, Tony Wroten...

[Mizerooskie]

I've never been sold on MKG, and still don't get why he's so highly rated.

Yeah, he's very athletic and has some on-court intangibles, but where are the basketball skills and production to merit a top-5 pick? I see a lot more Gerald Wallace in him than Scottie Pippen.

Great glue guy, but potential Alpha scorer? I don't think so.

[Wizardspride]

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Matt Doherty ‏@DohertyMatt


Experts questioning Hollis Thompson bc of Georgetown's style.."share the ball...Princeton offense...team ball..." worked for Hibbert/Green.[/

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Matt Doherty ‏@DohertyMatt


[b]Will Barton is "cheap to the curve". See him as big guard. Competes. Undervalued.

[closg00]

https://twitter.com/#!/DohertyMatt

Matt Doherty ‏@DohertyMatt


Experts questioning Hollis Thompson bc of Georgetown's style.."share the ball...Princeton offense...team ball..." worked for Hibbert/Green.[/

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Matt Doherty ‏@DohertyMatt


[b]Will Barton is "cheap to the curve". See him as big guard. Competes. Undervalued.

I don't understand the tweet about Hollis, what is their point?

[J-Ves]

If beal goes 2nd, and asumeing cle is high on mkg, I would try to swap the 3rd and the 4th, while picking up their late 1st (24ish?) and upgrading our late 2nd to a earlier 2nd. With the 4th we would take trob.

It would be a nice consolation prize for missing out on beal. And if cle doest bite, we can just take mkg.

[closg00]

It seems as-though are choosing between MKG and Robinson.
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/0 ... close.html

[nate33]

i keep switching between Beal & MKG....right now im on the MKG bandwagon.....his passion & work ethic is what has me leaning towards him. It's definitely something the wizards are lacking. im still hoping we can pick up an additional 1st rd pick some how. im down w/ trading anybody but nene, seraphin, and wall.

I don't think this is true anymore. This isn't Andray Blatche's Wizards. With Nene, Seraphin, Booker, Vesely, Wall and Crawford, this team is full of guys who work hard and love to play. MKG would certainly fit into the new mindset, but I don't think we are a team that needs his leadership.

This is why my money's on Charlotte taking MKG - they really need his leadership in a big way.

Thomas Robinson would work in that role too. Both guys are hard-working vocal leaders with infectious enthusiasm.

Beal is a hard worker who wouldn't hurt them in the locker room, but I don't get the sense that he has that same alpha-dog leadership quality. Chemistry-wise, Charlotte would be better off going with MKG or Robinson.