The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread (workout on 18th)

[Eoghan]

If we get the right coaches to coach this team, Charlotte needs to draft MKG. If the coaches can improve Michael's shooting then we have a superstar in the making here! MKG is the pick for me!

You make a good point, Kemba is supposed to be working to fix his shot and MKG could help him and the other way around. I don't mean that as to sound smart*** by the way I mean that would be a positive thing.

Talk about the blind leading the blind... That's like saying we can draft Drummond so Biz can teach him post moves.

[TheKingofSting]

MKG at 2 and then Dorron at 31 could be interesting. Would definitely give the Brow more cause to force his way to Charlotte in a few years.

I'm convinced he will be here eventually.

[TheKingofSting]

If we get the right coaches to coach this team, Charlotte needs to draft MKG. If the coaches can improve Michael's shooting then we have a superstar in the making here! MKG is the pick for me!

You make a good point, Kemba is supposed to be working to fix his shot and MKG could help him and the other way around. I don't mean that as to sound smart*** by the way I mean that would be a positive thing.

Talk about the blind leading the blind... That's like saying we can draft Drummond so Biz can teach him post moves.

Obviously a coach or shooting specialist would be working with them!

[7-Day Dray]

Does he only stutter like that in front of the camera/in interviews? its just funny picturing him as a locker room leader...takes him 20 seconds to spit out a 1 sentence answer about his own strengths on the basketball floor. hope for his own sake he can get some successful treatment for that, painful to watch

Reportedly, yes.

[TheKingofSting]

This notion of not taking him for his stuttering problem makes me laugh. We don't care if he never talks at all as long as he does his job between the lines on the basketball court.

[Eoghan]

Yeah, it doesn't bother me either. If Royce White's anxiety thing doesn't bother me, then this is nothing.

[captaincrunk]

This notion of not taking him for his stuttering problem makes me laugh. We don't care if he never talks at all as long as he does his job between the lines on the basketball court.

Yet people moan all day about Royce Whites OCD and Anxiety disorders

EDIT: ^ beat me to it

EDIT: I just don't like that he is a poor shooter and isn't a great passer. There's 4 things a guy can do on offense

1. Make shots
2. Make good passes to get assists
3. Get Offensive rebounds and reset the possession or get the easy 2
4. Set solid screens

And I don't really see MKG excelling at any of those things. Sure, he works hard and stuff but he could be the hardest working guy in the history of the draft and still be a bust

[TheKingofSting]

This notion of not taking him for his stuttering problem makes me laugh. We don't care if he never talks at all as long as he does his job between the lines on the basketball court.

Yet people moan all day about Royce Whites OCD and Anxiety disorders

EDIT: ^ beat me to it

They both are silly.

[Walt Cronkite]

The stutter is an issue if it isn't just a media/public speaking issue. MKG, to my knowledge, is touted for leadership abilities. It's a knock if that impediment affects his on the court chatter and teammate interaction backstage. But seems like it isn't an issue?

Didn't know about White being OCD, worrying about that is dumb. I see how the anxiety disorders would be problematic, but it seems like he just preferred not to travel on planes before big games because he'd have to psych himself up but it's been an overstated issue.

You know who seems psychologically sound? Thomas Robinson. Seems really strong mentally, actually.

[SWedd523]

Thomas Robinson. Seems really strong mentally, actually.

Robinson seems like the type of person that would beat a guys ass just to do it. Or dunk on somebody because they looked at him wrong. Or eat a dude's face


I like it.

[captaincrunk]

Thomas Robinson. Seems really strong mentally, actually.

Robinson seems like the type of person that would beat a guys ass just to do it. Or dunk on somebody because they looked at him wrong. Or eat a dude's face


I like it.

I told you man, he's on bath salts

[fatlever]

http://vaughtsviews.com/?p=21272

you guys buying any of this?

NBA scout says Kentucky system hides flaws in players
Published June 11, 2012

By LARRY VAUGHT

While Kentucky coach John Calipari has had great success putting players into the NBA draft — and should have six more picked later this month — at least one NBA scout says perception is not always reality.

“The interesting thing, and its not a knock, but there is this Kentucky mystique that Calipari has done a great job creating and perpetuating. The best part about Kentucky’s system is that can hide so many flaws at first glance,” the scout, who asked not to be identified because his team could draft a UK player, said.

Like what?

” MKG (Michael Kidd-Gilchrist)is a good defensive player, but he isn’t as good as people believe. Having (Anthony) Davis camped around the rim allowed players to play defense in a way which minimized their weaknesses,” the scout said.

More?

“The threat of the lob made (Marquis) Teague out to be a better point guard than he really is,” the scout said.

But wait. There’s more.

“In reality, the Kentucky system is smoke and mirrors. I remember being out in Vegas for a Summer League and I was sitting and watching games with a long-time Director of Scouting in the league. He said he was stunned at how unprepared Kentucky players were for the NBA, and he had drafted one of them,” the scout said.

[Jaruff]

Yes. I think it's similar to the D'Antoni effect. Certain players are good by default (Davis) and others have been hyped up. Take a look at Daniel Orton. Production alone, he wasn't worthy of a first-round pick (or even a second-round pick). However, being a Kentucky recruit on a stacked team elevated his status. Same with Eric Bledsoe, who could be a decent PG eventually. Like Orton, going to UK elevated him to first-round status. I think Kentucky is the only reason DeAndre Liggins was drafted and there are many other examples (ex: the various Memphis players Calipari coached).

[fatlever]

i'd say that bledsoe showed in the playoffs that he is definitely worthy of a 1st round pick. he was hurt all year. thats the only reason he was under the radar. that kid can play.

but there could be some truth to what he is saying about MKG specifically. having a shot blocker always makes wing defenders look better. similar to having a great pass rush makes corners look great in the NFL. but MKG will have biz here, so perhaps its not an issue for us.

[James Gatz]

Kemba
Hendo
Mags/ Harkless
T-Rob
Biyombo

With that lineup we could even be in the double digits in wins column.

A fringe 7 or 8 seed for years, no thanks!

If that group made the playoffs as a 7 or 8 next year it would have to be some sort of miracle. All of those players have definite developing to do and would keep us at the top of the lottery at least for one year. We are not getting a star in this draft. If we end up with a top pick next year maybe we can find him.

I like Harkless over White because I think he will ultimately end up being a 3 and White a 4. Also he is a guy who has talent but needs time to develop, again allowing us to play the lottery game for a bit while longer.

Robinson seems like the type of person that would beat a guys ass just to do it. Or dunk on somebody because they looked at him wrong. Or eat a dude's face


I like it.

Yeah, the more he talks about killing people the more I like him. With him and Biz teamed up we may not win a ton of games right away but nobody would be able to call us a soft.

[SWedd523]

you guys buying any of this?

I think it's pretty obvious. Big name schools that put out talent year after year like UNC, Duke, Kentucky, UConn, Kansas, etc. get the benefit of the doubt as far as talent goes.

Play for UNC and win a title? He MUST be a good player, let's draft him.
Play for Duke and get on ESPN 10 times out of the year? Name recognition, so let's draft him.


That's why you typically see at least one guy from a less public school surprise everybody when he does well in the NBA, and a handful of players from bigger schools end up as average or not good.

[Eoghan]

http://vaughtsviews.com/?p=21272

you guys buying any of this?

Oh yeah, hook line and sinker. That's what has had me iffy and dubious of the MKG hype train all season. Every time I'd watch a UK game he rarely passed the eye test, he just blended into the shadows of Davis, Teague and even Darius Miller and Terrance Jones. I can only recall one game where I noticed MKG doing anything resembling taking over. He wasn't even really a guy that you though played a quiet game and you looked at the box score and he'd have eye-popping stats. He'd just have a little bit of everything.

[countryboi]

if the're is one player in this draft that will put in the work it takes to be great its MKG....i just dont know if hard work is enough to fix the massive holes in his game

[KL78192020]

He has the Marvin Williams hype...

[Liver_Pooty]

Not really that many responses for a guy that has a very, very good chance of being on our roster next year.