a guy that could shoot 70% from half court and beyond

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Re: a guy that could shoot 70% from half court and beyond 

Post#21 » by AnaheimRoyale » Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:45 pm

This is the classic example that is used when explaining to people why "more talent" or more "all around skill" doesn't matter. This dude with almost no above average talents would be the best player in the NBA. More "talented", Shaq or Bogues? It's also the most common rebuttal to "D is half the game", when this guy could have very little in the way of D, and he'd still be far and away the most valuable.
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Re: a guy that could shoot 70% from half court and beyond 

Post#22 » by Kilroy » Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:46 pm

-Kees- wrote:He would pretty much be GOAT. No one has ever shot 70% from three and if he did it there would be no questions that he would have the biggest impact on the game.


There's a few players out there that could hit at least 70% from 3 in the gym...

The problem is many of them can't average 35% in a game...

A guy like the one described probably couldn't 'average 70% from half court' in a game... In order to do that, you'd have to be elite in some physical way... Strength, quickness, verticle... Something... Because otherwise, you're just not getting too many shots off in the NBA unless you were wide open... And that wouldn't happen very often if you started hitting those shots.
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Re: a guy that could shoot 70% from half court and beyond 

Post#23 » by AmerigoCorleone » Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:48 pm

Who in the world said he had to be slow? He's below average at everything else skill-wise.

If he's fast, agile, quick and explosive he could run around the court all game long exhausting whatever defender they put in front of him. He would cause so much spacing that he wouldn't even have to score a point for his team to have blow-outs.
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Re: a guy that could shoot 70% from half court and beyond 

Post#24 » by 28reloaded » Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:50 pm

AmerigoCorleone wrote:Who in the world said he had to be slow? He's below average at everything else skill-wise.

If he's fast, agile, quick and explosive he could run around the court all game long exhausting whatever defender they put in front of him. He would cause so much spacing that he wouldn't even have to score a point for his team to have blow-outs.


The problem is this. If he's 5'8, he's not getting his shot off vs an nba quality defender from half court. He would get it blocked 100% of the time. However this allows your offense to play 4 on 4 as 1 defender from have to be dedicated to him 40 feet from the rim.

But on the flip side, the other team could basically play 5 on 4 on offense giving them a distinct advantage as mr 70% half court in all likelyhood would be the worst defender in NBA history.
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Re: a guy that could shoot 70% from half court and beyond 

Post#25 » by BubbaTee » Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:51 pm

SpeedyWindRose wrote:(I don't understand how basketball can be someone's entire life, and they can't consistently knock down an 18ft jumpshot.)


Because the sport is called "basketball" and not "shooting". There's other parts of the game that are also important.
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Re: a guy that could shoot 70% from half court and beyond 

Post#26 » by DavidSterned » Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:56 pm

You guys realize that he'd basically only ever have an 8 second window where he could even get a shot off? No way he'd be in the NBA if teams figured out how to press him.
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Re: a guy that could shoot 70% from half court and beyond 

Post#27 » by Game Show » Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:57 pm

He would never get a proper shot off, but assuming all he needs is to (miraculously) tap the ball to get it in the correct trajectory, he would be GOAT
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Re: a guy that could shoot 70% from half court and beyond 

Post#28 » by AmerigoCorleone » Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:03 pm

28reloaded wrote:The problem is this. If he's 5'8, he's not getting his shot off vs an nba quality defender from half court. He would get it blocked 100% of the time. However this allows your offense to play 4 on 4 as 1 defender from have to be dedicated to him 40 feet from the rim.

But on the flip side, the other team could basically play 5 on 4 on offense giving them a distinct advantage as mr 70% half court in all likelyhood would be the worst defender in NBA history.


If he can shoot 70% from half-court then he should be able to shoot 90% from just behind the 3-point line. With that kind of accuracy even contested shots should go in 70% of the time.
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Re: a guy that could shoot 70% from half court and beyond 

Post#29 » by ERRDAY3 » Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:11 pm

I wanna make this clear he can shoot 70% in a game so lets say he averaged that during high school or college. Also he is below average every other way by NBA standards but if you bring him closer than half court he becomes a average shooter
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Re: a guy that could shoot 70% from half court and beyond 

Post#30 » by INKtastic » Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:12 pm

if he could shoot 70% from half court and beyond, but was below average in every other area (which presumably includes inside of half court), he wouldn't make it. He couldn't help space the court because it would be a violation to pass him the ball behind half court.
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Re: a guy that could shoot 70% from half court and beyond 

Post#31 » by ComboGuardCity » Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:14 pm

Who's to say someone just doesn't defend him at half court so he can't get the shot up?
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Re: a guy that could shoot 70% from half court and beyond 

Post#32 » by AmerigoCorleone » Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:16 pm

ERRDAY3 wrote:I wanna make this clear he can shoot 70% in a game so lets say he averaged that during high school or college. Also he is below average every other way by NBA standards but if you bring him closer than half court he becomes a average shooter


Was he the Naismith College Player of the Year, All-American etc? I need details about how he fared in college.
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Re: a guy that could shoot 70% from half court and beyond 

Post#33 » by ERRDAY3 » Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:20 pm

AmerigoCorleone wrote:
ERRDAY3 wrote:I wanna make this clear he can shoot 70% in a game so lets say he averaged that during high school or college. Also he is below average every other way by NBA standards but if you bring him closer than half court he becomes a average shooter


Was he the Naismith College Player of the Year, All-American etc? I need more details about how he fared in college.

lets say he played high school a guy that is 5'8 below average by nba standards would probably be a pretty great player in high school add in the fact he shot 70% from half court and beyond. With a decent number of attempts too would an NBA team take him
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Re: a guy that could shoot 70% from half court and beyond 

Post#34 » by Dunham32 » Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:22 pm

Kilroy wrote:
-Kees- wrote:He would pretty much be GOAT. No one has ever shot 70% from three and if he did it there would be no questions that he would have the biggest impact on the game.


There's a few players out there that could hit at least 70% from 3 in the gym...

The problem is many of them can't average 35% in a game...

A guy like the one described probably couldn't 'average 70% from half court' in a game... In order to do that, you'd have to be elite in some physical way... Strength, quickness, verticle... Something... Because otherwise, you're just not getting too many shots off in the NBA unless you were wide open... And that wouldn't happen very often if you started hitting those shots.


Actually i think a lot of guys could easily hit 70% of 3 pointers in practice if they are just shooting with no defense. I remember watching an interview of Dirk last season during a practice and you could see Peja hit like 12 3s in a row. I bet guys like him, Ray Allen, Novak, Korver, etc.... could all hit over 70% of 3s with no defense
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Re: a guy that could shoot 70% from half court and beyond 

Post#35 » by sonicFLAME6 » Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:25 pm

LMAO. WTF is this non sense hahaha.
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Re: a guy that could shoot 70% from half court and beyond 

Post#36 » by Wone » Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:26 pm

GregOden wrote:That's what they call stretching the defense.

Guy would be GOAT role player.
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Post#37 » by Uncle Mxy » Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:34 pm

How below average would his FT% be?

If we're talking a Ben Wallace-level FT shooter, it might make sense to foul the guy at half-court every time.

Not only wouldn't he score, but if he had a below-average NBA physique, it wouldn't take more than a couple fouls...
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Re: a guy that could shoot 70% from half court and beyond 

Post#38 » by AmerigoCorleone » Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:42 pm

ERRDAY3 wrote:lets say he played high school a guy that is 5'8 below average by nba standards would probably be a pretty great player in high school add in the fact he shot 70% from half court and beyond. With a decent number of attempts too would an NBA team take him


How did he fare in college? That's the question.
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Re: a guy that could shoot 70% from half court and beyond 

Post#39 » by GuyverX » Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:46 pm

lol, there's nobody in the world who can shoot that percentage with a hand in his face. There are many players who can't even shoot 70% in FTs let alone half court shots. That's not a very realistic hypothetical. And then to be below average in other facets of the game, the guy would be a half-time entertainer, not an NBA player.
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Re: a guy that could shoot 70% from half court and beyond 

Post#40 » by schneiderjazz » Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:50 pm

I think the real question is could he shoot these percentages outside, when you have to adjust to factors like wind, crowd, and assfault.
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