Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Jeremy Lamb (HOU)

[fredericklove]

wooow. he's been working out
hopefully demars donig the same right now -____-

I wanted to find a better picture but during the combine, I saw a bigger muscle mass from both of his biceps. I was when I saw that. It shows that he has put in quite abit of work on his body, which I believe he will continue doing so in the course of his career.

[CarterDUnk16]

These interviews have hurt him a lot over the last few days. I hope he just one of those silent killers kinda type ballers. I finally saw some of his interviews and i almost fell asleep.

[HolyMage110]

lambs gonna be a great player in the league for sure
the only reason why he somewhat played sloppy because he was under pressure from scouts, i think his transaction to the nba would be fine.

surrounding him with the right pieces like the 2011 year, would help him become a much better player

[DG88]

There's reason why people have soured a bit on Lamb. GM's know about his skills they've seen him play for two years now. They have a good estimation of his skills. During the combine he did nothing to highlight some red flags. GM's don't put much stock in terms of the numbers at the combine, like measurement and how fast or slow they did their drills. What the combine is really about the professionalism, and seriousness that the players approach the tasks and the interviews. It gives GM's a glimpse of how they could approach a basketball game in the NBA mentally. This is where Lamb didn't excel in and GM's aren't as high on him as they might have used to be.

These people are you realgm people who keep saying his interview brings doomsday to his career.

I'm not saying it makes him a terrible player but it doesn't help his case of rubbing that stigma off him, understand that. If he's drafted by us then I'll support him. I know he's a skilled player I have never denounced that once in this thread. I only have concerns just like you have concerns with other prospects. Lamb shouldn't be excluded from such concern's that GM's have highlighted.

[Marlo Stanfield]

@marlo - Yeah, of the guys I think will actually be around at 8 I like Lillard a little more than the other options. His massive efficiency and all around skill set transcend any concerns about the conference he played (IMO anyway). You ask what about his game I like? I think the better question is what part of his game do you dislike? You can point to the level of competition, and perhaps a lack of demonstrated advanced PG skills, but that's about it, and the PG skills thing is easily a case of his role at Weber stat rather than an actual lack of those skills. High ceiling and high floor is something I can get behind at the 8th pick. It's not that I don't like Lamb, I just like Lillard a little bit more.

The worst factor is definitely his competition. If you play against inferior competition you will be more efficient, unless you are a complete scrub. Also, his defense is suspect, he doesn't create for others (similar to the problem Kemba Walker had), and his mid-range game is non-existent as Jay Williams noted at the combine. I personally don't see him being that much better than a Kemba Walker in the NBA just because of his shot. Kemba has him on competition faced, experience, and quickness. Everything else could be considered a wash, Kemba even has the 40 inch vertical people are drooling over. At least Kemba can say he led a team to a NCAA title with the help of Jeremy Lamb, Damien cant even come close to saying that. He wasn't even highly recruited out of high school, whereas Kemba was a McDonalds All-American. Now, this is not a Walker/Lillard comparison, but I'm just laying it out on the table. And my final point is that Lillard is such a great shooter, but he only shoots 30% going one way (can't remember which), but it doesn't really matter if he can only shoot going one way. NBA teams will lock him down if they expose that.

[Fenris-77]

I'm not saying it makes him a terrible player but it doesn't help his case of rubbing that stigma off him, understand that. If he's drafted by us then I'll support him. I know he's a skilled player I have never denounced that once in this thread. I only have concerns just like you have concerns with other prospects. Lamb shouldn't be excluded from such concern's that GM's have highlighted.

So it is possible to evaluate Lamb in a balanced way. Amazing. I completely agree.

[HolyMage110]

why would BC consider harkless?

[MainEvent]

He couldnt have put on 10 pounds since last year, theres no way he was only 169 last summer. I am sure hes working at it but there isn't much of a difference in that pic and that video.

By game 1 of the next years NBA season he will be 10-15 pounds heavier 190-195. Whoever drafts him is going to put him on a serious workout plan.

[HolyMage110]

he needs to gain some weight

[nahom1319]

He couldnt have put on 10 pounds since last year, theres no way he was only 169 last summer. I am sure hes working at it but there isn't much of a difference in that pic and that video.

By game 1 of the next years NBA season he will be 10-15 pounds heavier 190-195. Whoever drafts him is going to put him on a serious workout plan.

2 months in it will be all gone (see Ed Davis).... what most fail to realize is that the prospects have spent a few months prepping for this period. During the season they won't have as much time to hit the weights and will probably be loose on their diet. I wouldn't expect lamb to maintain 205 lbs till year 3.

[HolyMage110]

He couldnt have put on 10 pounds since last year, theres no way he was only 169 last summer. I am sure hes working at it but there isn't much of a difference in that pic and that video.

By game 1 of the next years NBA season he will be 10-15 pounds heavier 190-195. Whoever drafts him is going to put him on a serious workout plan.

2 months in it will be all gone (see Ed Davis).... what most fail to realize is that the prospects have spent a few months prepping for this period. During the season they won't have as much time to hit the weights and will probably be loose on their diet. I wouldn't expect lamb to maintain 205 lbs till year 3.

i have to agree with that.

[fredericklove]

lambs gonna be a great player in the league for sure
the only reason why he somewhat played sloppy because he was under pressure from scouts, i think his transaction to the nba would be fine.

surrounding him with the right pieces like the 2011 year, would help him become a much better player

It's a good thing he has iso skills/handle so we don't need to have a pass-first PG to compliment him. We need to surround him w/ players that do their job at their position while letting Lamb to get most offensive touches.

I might get alot of responses from Demar fans for saying this, I simply don't think Lamb and Demar work well together. Despite both have different game that might compliment each other, such as Demar loves to slash/drive while Lamb loves to shoot. But both guys really need touches to be effective. We see what Demar does when he doesn't get touches, or Lamb when he doesn't get touches in UConn.

If we make no further change on SF, then I feel JJ will work well w/ Lamb cos JJ can focus on his role as rebounder/defender while having Lamb to get most scoring touches (alongside w/ Bargs and whoever the PG is next year)

[HolyMage110]

lambs gonna be a great player in the league for sure
the only reason why he somewhat played sloppy because he was under pressure from scouts, i think his transaction to the nba would be fine.

surrounding him with the right pieces like the 2011 year, would help him become a much better player

It's a good thing he has iso skills/handle so we don't need to have a pass-first PG to compliment him. We need to surround him w/ players that do their job at their position while letting Lamb to get most offensive touches.

I might get alot of responses from Demar fans for saying this, I simply don't think Lamb and Demar work well together. Despite both have different game that might compliment each other, such as Demar loves to slash/drive while Lamb loves to shoot. But both guys really need touches to be effective. We see what Demar does when he doesn't get touches, or Lamb when he doesn't get touches in UConn.

If we make no further change on SF, then I feel JJ will work well w/ Lamb cos JJ can focus on his role as rebounder/defender while having Lamb to get most scoring touches (alongside w/ Bargs and whoever the PG is next year)

yo do put out a good point, but im curious to see how bouth demar and lamb work out, it could be good or go down hill. if we draft him, we'll have to wait and see.

[fredericklove]

There's reason why people have soured a bit on Lamb. GM's know about his skills they've seen him play for two years now. They have a good estimation of his skills. During the combine he did nothing to highlight some red flags. GM's don't put much stock in terms of the numbers at the combine, like measurement and how fast or slow they did their drills. What the combine is really about the professionalism, and seriousness that the players approach the tasks and the interviews. It gives GM's a glimpse of how they could approach a basketball game in the NBA mentally. This is where Lamb didn't excel in and GM's aren't as high on him as they might have used to be.

These people are you realgm people who keep saying his interview brings doomsday to his career.

I'm not saying it makes him a terrible player but it doesn't help his case of rubbing that stigma off him, understand that. If he's drafted by us then I'll support him. I know he's a skilled player I have never denounced that once in this thread. I only have concerns just like you have concerns with other prospects. Lamb shouldn't be excluded from such concern's that GM's have highlighted.

Fair enough. I share same issue about whether he has the ability to take over the game in clutch situation and raises some concern about his competitiveness. He has the skillset, the most he needs now is to have desires and mental toughness to bring his game to another level. He screws up the interviews, ppl will of course say things. But like Undefeated said, Lamb has worked so hard to get to where he is today. I have confidence that he isn't like what people said about him - desires and drive.

[fredericklove]

He couldnt have put on 10 pounds since last year, theres no way he was only 169 last summer. I am sure hes working at it but there isn't much of a difference in that pic and that video.

By game 1 of the next years NBA season he will be 10-15 pounds heavier 190-195. Whoever drafts him is going to put him on a serious workout plan.

Its hard to see it from that pic I posted, and that video is ages ago too. If the combine shows again on NBATV, I'm gonna snap 100 photos of him and his muscles and post them all here.

[DG88]

I'm not saying it makes him a terrible player but it doesn't help his case of rubbing that stigma off him, understand that. If he's drafted by us then I'll support him. I know he's a skilled player I have never denounced that once in this thread. I only have concerns just like you have concerns with other prospects. Lamb shouldn't be excluded from such concern's that GM's have highlighted.

So it is possible to evaluate Lamb in a balanced way. Amazing. I completely agree.

It's been the only point I've been trying to make this entire time but the Lambulance aka fredericklove is acting like I hate the dude and if I have nothing positive to say about Lamb then I should just shut up. If GM's are questioning Lamb's motor and demeanor then that should raise some red flags. I mean they've been watching many of these prospects since highschool all the way til now. They have waaaay more insight on these guys then we all do combined.

[Anatomize]

lambs gonna be a great player in the league for sure
the only reason why he somewhat played sloppy because he was under pressure from scouts, i think his transaction to the nba would be fine.

surrounding him with the right pieces like the 2011 year, would help him become a much better player

It's a good thing he has iso skills/handle so we don't need to have a pass-first PG to compliment him. We need to surround him w/ players that do their job at their position while letting Lamb to get most offensive touches.

I might get alot of responses from Demar fans for saying this, I simply don't think Lamb and Demar work well together. Despite both have different game that might compliment each other, such as Demar loves to slash/drive while Lamb loves to shoot. But both guys really need touches to be effective. We see what Demar does when he doesn't get touches, or Lamb when he doesn't get touches in UConn.

If we make no further change on SF, then I feel JJ will work well w/ Lamb cos JJ can focus on his role as rebounder/defender while having Lamb to get most scoring touches (alongside w/ Bargs and whoever the PG is next year)

One reason DeMar and Lamb don't compliment eachother is because offensively their top skill is running off screens. It's kind of similar to two bigs working out of the elbow/block area (like Bosh-Jermaine experiment, or Z-Bo/Marc-Gasol). You can see how M. Gasol's numbers are hurt when Randolph is on the floor/healthy compared to when he gets to be the main post up option. Pau Gasol on the other hand can still get decent stats being a PF option next to Bynum because he can shoot mid range and Bynum doesn't operate at the elbow areas.

Having redundant players offensively can be a problem, this will be the case with DeMar and Lamb; which may force Lamb to become more of a spot up/corner guy and less of a 2nd option in the offense. If DeMar plays more off-ball than Lamb (receiving less touches), that means he would have to be in the 3 point spots more often, which is a problem considering he cant shoot 3's well, this will relegate Lamb to a 3rd scorer option. This is why I don't see the two of them being a great fit offensively. DeMar is going to have to severely improve his ball handling/penetration/passing in order for them to work well together.

Otherwise, the only way it will work is if Lamb slides in as a #2 ball handling/scoring option and sets up DeMar for mid range looks and off-ball movement. This of course is coupled with the fact that we still need a penetrating guard that can set up our wings.

[DG88]

lambs gonna be a great player in the league for sure
the only reason why he somewhat played sloppy because he was under pressure from scouts, i think his transaction to the nba would be fine.

surrounding him with the right pieces like the 2011 year, would help him become a much better player

It's a good thing he has iso skills/handle so we don't need to have a pass-first PG to compliment him. We need to surround him w/ players that do their job at their position while letting Lamb to get most offensive touches.

I might get alot of responses from Demar fans for saying this, I simply don't think Lamb and Demar work well together. Despite both have different game that might compliment each other, such as Demar loves to slash/drive while Lamb loves to shoot. But both guys really need touches to be effective. We see what Demar does when he doesn't get touches, or Lamb when he doesn't get touches in UConn.

If we make no further change on SF, then I feel JJ will work well w/ Lamb cos JJ can focus on his role as rebounder/defender while having Lamb to get most scoring touches (alongside w/ Bargs and whoever the PG is next year)

One reason DeMar and Lamb don't compliment eachother is because offensively their top skill is running off screens. It's kind of similar to two bigs working out of the elbow/block area (like Bosh-Jermaine experiment, or Z-Bo/Marc-Gasol). You can see how M. Gasol's numbers are hurt when Randolph is on the floor/healthy compared to when he gets to be the main post up option. Pau Gasol on the other hand can still get decent stats being a PF option next to Bynum because he can shoot mid range and Bynum doesn't operate at the elbow areas.

Having redundant players offensively can be a problem, this will be the case with DeMar and Lamb; which may force Lamb to become more of a spot up/corner guy and less of a 2nd option in the offense. If DeMar plays more off-ball than Lamb (receiving less touches), that means he would have to be in the 3 point spots more often, which is a problem considering he cant shoot 3's well, this will relegate Lamb to a 3rd scorer option. This is why I don't see the two of them being a great fit offensively. DeMar is going to have to severely improve his ball handling/penetration/passing in order for them to work well together.

Otherwise, the only way it will work is if Lamb slides in as a #2 ball handling/scoring option and sets up DeMar for mid range looks and off-ball movement. This of course is coupled with the fact that we still need a penetrating guard that can set up our wings.

It's one of the reason why Tim Chisholm said that their games are similar. They occupy the same space and use off ball movement to get open.

[chimpston17]

These interviews have hurt him a lot over the last few days. I hope he just one of those silent killers kinda type ballers. I finally saw some of his interviews and i almost fell asleep.

so did he

[fredericklove]

who's that girl in ur avatar ;O

you mind sending a link?

She took all her photos down so that site is pretty useless. I only have 3 photos of her