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Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Damian Lillard (POR)

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If still on the Board by our pick what are the chanches we draft him?

100%
27
25%
90%
5
5%
80%
8
8%
70%
10
9%
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8
8%
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14
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0
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Damian Lillard 

Post#481 » by S.W.A.N » Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:58 pm

Dr Mufasa wrote:Lillard is basically the prospect people want Rivers to be, he has the size and athleticism to finish at the rim more, is much more legit shooter in 3P% and FT%, and both seem to create similar ways.

At the same time his destiny screams a Lou Williams/Mo Williams type of career, to me.




Rivers is a shooting guard who people think might play some pg because of his dad and fact that he doesn't have great sg size.

Lillard is a pg who took on scoring role because he was his teams best player by far. Lillard is no pure pg in a marshall way but that is not a bad thing..

I would consider that his floor. Border line starter excellent 6th man isn't exactly a bad thing. He has as high as ceiling as anyone in this draft not named Davis.

Lillard could very easily make a career out of running pick and roll with Val.
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Post#482 » by chrisanna » Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:40 am

The thing is, we havent had a PG who could drive fearlessly to the rim, AND shoot a high % fg and 3fg since Damon. if you can shoot...you can shoot. the problem is whether u can get your shot off efficiently. he has the handles and creativity to do that, plus the outstanding athleticism. he has smarts to him. if we draft him, he is going to learn quick what it is he needs to do to be successful with the Raptors.
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Post#483 » by StMikes31 » Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:55 am

Lillard being 21 adds that BC and Casey want to take him. Less years to develop him and he can contribute right away. If they keep the pick and can't get that all star SF then I think the best bet is to get a seasoned college player which is Lillard.

Even with this pick, I still think they go after Nash to mentor him. I don't think they bring back Bayless and obviously Calderon has to be dealt or amnestied.
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Damian Lillard 

Post#484 » by BirdmanPresents » Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:02 am

StMikes31 wrote:Lillard being 21 adds that BC and Casey want to take him. Less years to develop him and he can contribute right away. If they keep the pick and can't get that all star SF then I think the best bet is to get a seasoned college player which is Lillard.

Even with this pick, I still think they go after Nash to mentor him. I don't think they bring back Bayless and obviously Calderon has to be dealt or amnestied.


I think the fact he is older doesn't help him coming to be a "veteran rookie" type guy since he played at Weber state. He will need some adjustment time to adjust to the tougher competition. I don't think he won't be as good because of this, but it will affect his development time.
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Damian Lillard 

Post#485 » by Mascot » Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:11 am

Lillard is very similar to Stephen Curry imho. He can shoot the lights out, however he can get to the rim and dosent have wonky ankles.


I think he is going to contribute right away to the team that gets him.
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Damian Lillard 

Post#486 » by Fenris-77 » Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:12 am

BirdmanPresents wrote:I think the fact he is older doesn't help him coming to be a "veteran rookie" type guy since he played at Weber state. He will need some adjustment time to adjust to the tougher competition. I don't think he won't be as good because of this, but it will affect his development time.

That doesn't really make a lot of sense. No offense, but it doesn't. The extra year or two of NCAA coaching and playing against constant double and triple teams (over a lot of other prospects) is more than compensation for playing in Big Sky.
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Damian Lillard 

Post#487 » by fredericklove » Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:30 am

Double or triple defense from inferior competition don't mean much compared to defense from the superior conference teams.
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Damian Lillard 

Post#488 » by Fenris-77 » Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:33 am

fredericklove wrote:Double or triple defense from inferior competition don't mean much compared to defense from the superior conference teams.

If that makes you feel better. :lol:
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Damian Lillard 

Post#489 » by S.W.A.N » Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:42 am

fredericklove wrote:Double or triple defense from inferior competition don't mean much compared to defense from the superior conference teams.



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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Damian Lillard 

Post#490 » by BirdmanPresents » Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:45 am

Fenris-77 wrote:
fredericklove wrote:Double or triple defense from inferior competition don't mean much compared to defense from the superior conference teams.

If that makes you feel better. :lol:


If laughing off a legitimate point makes you feel better...

The point of having a junior or sophmore come in is because they are already proven and have experience to an extent. Lillard is not proven to play at a high level. The extra year playing mid major ball if anything hurts his development. It's like a kid who stays at a local high school beating up on the local talent, instead of transfering or going prep and facing higher competition.
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Damian Lillard 

Post#491 » by Dr. Nick » Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:45 am

fredericklove wrote:Double or triple defense from inferior competition don't mean much compared to defense from the superior conference teams.


Not sure if serious...
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Damian Lillard 

Post#492 » by Fenris-77 » Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:52 am

BirdmanPresents wrote:
Fenris-77 wrote:
fredericklove wrote:Double or triple defense from inferior competition don't mean much compared to defense from the superior conference teams.

If that makes you feel better. :lol:


If laughing off a legitimate point makes you feel better...

The point of having a junior or sophmore come in is because they are already proven and have experience to an extent. Lillard is not proven to play at a high level. The extra year playing mid major ball if anything hurts his development. It's like a kid who stays at a local high school beating up on the local talent, instead of transfering or going prep and facing higher competition.

No actually it's not like that at all, since the players in Big Sky are legit NCAA players, and players for teams who unanimously decided to double or triple Lillard every game. Guys at D1 schools don't have to put up with that nonsense because they have better team mates. Your characterization what this little factoid means is very much in keeping with your obvious bias here.
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Damian Lillard 

Post#493 » by fredericklove » Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:52 am

Dr. Nick wrote:
fredericklove wrote:Double or triple defense from inferior competition don't mean much compared to defense from the superior conference teams.


Not sure if serious...

Not sure why it is not seriously.
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Damian Lillard 

Post#494 » by Throwback24 » Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:53 am

fredericklove wrote:
Dr. Nick wrote:
fredericklove wrote:Double or triple defense from inferior competition don't mean much compared to defense from the superior conference teams.


Not sure if serious...

Not sure why it is not seriously.


Knowing how to navigate around a double or triple team regardless of the competition is a feat on its own bro.
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Damian Lillard 

Post#495 » by Fenris-77 » Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:53 am

fredericklove wrote:
Dr. Nick wrote:
fredericklove wrote:Double or triple defense from inferior competition don't mean much compared to defense from the superior conference teams.


Not sure if serious...

Not sure why it is not seriously.

Because it sounds biased and shirty, and it comes from a committed and rabid Lamb supporter? Just to hazard a guess...
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Damian Lillard 

Post#496 » by fredericklove » Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:54 am

Double team from a bobcats defense don't mean much compared to a Spurs rotational defense or even a Pacer defense.
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Damian Lillard 

Post#497 » by Fenris-77 » Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:57 am

fredericklove wrote:Double team from a bobcats defense don't mean much compared to a Spurs rotational defense or even a Pacer defense.

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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Damian Lillard 

Post#498 » by fredericklove » Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:58 am

Throwback24 wrote:
fredericklove wrote:
Dr. Nick wrote:
Not sure if serious...

Not sure why it is not seriously.


Knowing how to navigate around a double or triple team regardless of the competition is a feat on its own bro.

Even if the opposing team sucks?
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Damian Lillard 

Post#499 » by Throwback24 » Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:58 am

lol now that's obviously true but a double team and triple team is still just that. I'll leave you to your thoughts though.
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Damian Lillard 

Post#500 » by Fenris-77 » Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:59 am

Throwback24 wrote:lol now that's obviously true but a double team and triple team is still just that. I'll leave you to your thoughts though.

I'll toss in the toilet paper and Jeremy Lamb photo spread. :lol:

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