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Problems with the team that need to be figured quick 

Post#1 » by WadeInTheWater » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:00 am

1) Spo must rest LeBron, over exhausting him leaves him with no energy in the 4th
2) Spo must put the right players in to matchup with theirs.
3) Spo needs to adjust quicker to what the Thunder are doing
4) Bosh MUST start
5) Wade needs to stop playing so bipolar, he looks like John Wall out there at times and at others like the 06 MVP.
6) Attack the rim and not settle for jump shots unless you're a spot shooter.

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Post#2 » by marcus_misc » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:09 am

Put LeBron on Westbrook for big stretches and have him take that cocky SOB out of the series like he did to D. Rose last year. Make Durant beat you....I don't care if he gets 50 the key to to frustrate Westbrook so much that he destroys the chemistry of that team from within.
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Post#3 » by WadeInTheWater » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:13 am

marcus_misc wrote:Put LeBron on Westbrook for big stretches and have him take that cocky SOB out of the series like he did to D. Rose last year. Make Durant beat you....I don't care if he gets 50 the key to to frustrate Westbrook so much that he destroys the chemistry of that team from within.


Westbrook jackin up stupid shots is what you want him to do, instead we just let him have the freedom of the court. Durant gonna get his either way.
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Post#4 » by Miamis3rdRing » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:14 am

1. Less Mike Miller

2. More of anyone not named Mike Miller (Ie: Play more players)

3. Wade stop being an idiot. You can't shoot 3's and your jumpshot is broke. If you're on a roll feel free to hoist away, but you can't be chucking when the game is close to try and get yourself in a rhythm. Last year it was LeBron being too passive, this time it's Wade being overly aggressive and taking horrible shots. Will one of our stars not play like crap for once in the Finals? SMH.

4. Better have a sizable lead going into the 4th. I said it before, the Thunder get stronger as the game goes on. This isn't the old Celtics. Wearing them down won't work.

5. Durant can't really be defended, maybe try to shut down other guys down.

6. Put a freaking body on Nick Collison. He has 2 purposes in life. Dunk and get offensive rebounds.
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Post#5 » by WadeInTheWater » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:20 am

coolstorybro wrote:1. Less Mike Miller

2. More of anyone not named Mike Miller (Ie: Play more players)

3. Wade stop being an idiot. You can't shoot 3's and your jumpshot is broke. If you're on a roll feel free to hoist away, but you can't be chucking when the game is close to try and get yourself in a rhythm. Last year it was LeBron being too passive, this time it's Wade being overly aggressive and taking horrible shots. Will one of our stars not play like crap for once in the Finals? SMH.

4. Better have a sizable lead going into the 4th. I said it before, the Thunder get stronger as the game goes on. This isn't the old Celtics. Wearing them down won't work.

5. Durant can't really be defended, maybe try to shut down other guys down.

6. Put a freaking body on Nick Collison. He has 2 purposes in life. Dunk and get offensive rebounds.


Hard to disagree with those points, but trust me Durant can get cold (ish) aswell so at least put the great Lebron James on him, man spo is one dumb motha.
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Post#6 » by ecnirp » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:35 am

coolstorybro wrote:1. Less Mike Miller

2. More of anyone not named Mike Miller (Ie: Play more players)

3. Wade stop being an idiot. You can't shoot 3's and your jumpshot is broke. If you're on a roll feel free to hoist away, but you can't be chucking when the game is close to try and get yourself in a rhythm. Last year it was LeBron being too passive, this time it's Wade being overly aggressive and taking horrible shots. Will one of our stars not play like crap for once in the Finals? SMH.

4. Better have a sizable lead going into the 4th. I said it before, the Thunder get stronger as the game goes on. This isn't the old Celtics. Wearing them down won't work.

5. Durant can't really be defended, maybe try to shut down other guys down.

6. Put a freaking body on Nick Collison. He has 2 purposes in life. Dunk and get offensive rebounds.


Why no James Jones...

And I've been beating this horn since the last series...

Try out some Harris out there...Its risky...its crazy...but need some athleticism on the floor.
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Post#7 » by EscapoTHB » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:36 am

I think you put Lebron on Durant and have him guard him like he did Melo. Where he was denying the entry pass and forcing him into bad spots.

The big adjustment is that Bosh needs to start and play 40 minutes a game. And if Wade is hurt, we need to run things through Chris more.
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Re: Problems with the team that need to be figured quick 

Post#8 » by SweetTouch » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:37 am

EscapoTHB wrote:I think you put Lebron on Durant and have him guard him like he did Melo. Where he was denying the entry pass and forcing him into bad spots.

The big adjustment is that Bosh needs to start and play 40 minutes a game. And if Wade is hurt, we need to run things through Chris more.


Easy counter

Have Westbrook make something happen

Insert Harden
Stop being so disrespectful.
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Post#9 » by ecnirp » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:40 am

SweetTouch wrote:
EscapoTHB wrote:I think you put Lebron on Durant and have him guard him like he did Melo. Where he was denying the entry pass and forcing him into bad spots.

The big adjustment is that Bosh needs to start and play 40 minutes a game. And if Wade is hurt, we need to run things through Chris more.


Easy counter

Have Westbrook make something happen

Insert Harden


True...

But Durant just BEAT the Heat tonight. Have to try something different. Cant let Durant go 12/20.

I'd live with him being 10/22.
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Post#10 » by DefenseWins » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:44 am

Durant is a good shooter, he's going to get his. Now WESTBROOK, we could have done a better job on. He got to the rim at will, passed the ball to an open man AT THE RIM. Nobody put a body on Collison.

The defense was bad, it wasn't the offense.

Now some people took bad shots (WADE mostly), that just helped the Thunder

The fast break points were 24-4. Let that sink in.
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Post#11 » by WadeInTheWater » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:57 am

DefenseWins wrote:Durant is a good shooter, he's going to get his. Now WESTBROOK, we could have done a better job on. He got to the rim at will, passed the ball to an open man AT THE RIM. Nobody put a body on Collison.

The defense was bad, it wasn't the offense.

Now some people took bad shots (WADE mostly), that just helped the Thunder

The fast break points were 24-4. Let that sink in.


Has to be said, 94 points in an arena like that under pressure is pretty darn good. You expect lower scoring in a finals but this team can catch fire like that. Problem is we didn't play Miami Heat basketball which is ironically your username.
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Post#12 » by cb1 » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:12 am

Quickly fire Spo. He basically went into this game with a game 7 rotation and ended up wearing out the players. We can't afford these lapses from our coach of all people. Wade also needs more playcalls for him instead of always handling it. Also, fire Spo!
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Post#13 » by DefenseWins » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:23 am

By the way, we were winning the boards and winning the game.

Then we lost the boards, stopped the defense, stopped the offense, and lost.

Then OKC made shots, mostly Durant EXPLODED.

Durant is obviously the guy to watch, so I don't understand not maybe doubling him or putting LeBron on him. Battier is pesky but it's not enough. We'll see in game 2. Because obviously what was done to Durant in the 4th didn't work.
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Post#14 » by LeMVP » Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:48 am

WadeInTheWater wrote:1) Spo must rest LeBron, over exhausting him leaves him with no energy in the 4th
2) Spo must put the right players in to matchup with theirs.
3) Spo needs to adjust quicker to what the Thunder are doing
4) Bosh MUST start
5) Wade needs to stop playing so bipolar, he looks like John Wall out there at times and at others like the 06 MVP.
6) Attack the rim and not settle for jump shots unless you're a spot shooter.

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1. Yes, some minutes late in the 3Q.
2. No, that's not a problem. Switching defenders on KD was quite effective in the first half. It's our overall defense that sucked, leaving people completely open and not able to put bodys in front of Westbrook on the fastbreaks.
3. They aren't doing that much to be honest. We need transition defense.
4. No, he obviously isn't able to. I want him to start if his able to be a factor, but the injury is still bugging him. Don't get fooled by one good game were he made three 3s.
5. Better shot selection = confidence = jumper = more confidence = attacking the basket.
6. That a random basketball statement. With Perkins and Ibaka only LeBron and Wade are able to attack the rim effectively.
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Post#15 » by Respect My Mind » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:14 am

These suggestions are silly. This team has no backups, how are you gonna rest Lebron? Don't play Mike Miller? Then who else? James Jones (Who's defense is even worse) Norris Cole (Who is 5'10).

Haslem is so stupid. He's always causing the 50/50 balls to go the other way because he fights other Heat players for rebounds. What an Idiot.
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Post#16 » by LeMVP » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:40 am

Respect My Mind wrote:These suggestions are silly. This team has no backups, how are you gonna rest Lebron? Don't play Mike Miller? Then who else? James Jones (Who's defense is even worse) Norris Cole (Who is 5'10).

Haslem is so stupid. He's always causing the 50/50 balls to go the other way because he fights other Heat players for rebounds. What an Idiot.


a) You can't beat OKC on a six man rotation.
b) You are gonna rest LeBron by letting him out 2-3 min in the 2Q and 3Q and living Wade/Bosh together on the court.
c) James Jones is a good defender, comparable to MM.
d) Norris Cole is small and what's the problem? That's probably the reason why he isn't center.
e) You obviously don't know the definition of a 50/50 ball.
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Post#17 » by imchillin » Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:26 pm

Spo really waited for the finals after a game 7 to play 6 guys? Unbelievable
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Post#18 » by DWadeno3 » Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:49 pm

One thing that really pissed me off last night was how often we allowed them to attack the middle and how poorly we rotated defensively. Our defensive scheme is based on forcing them towards the baseline, then eventually trapping them and creating turnovers and bad shots off of it. I rarely ever saw the system work because of the two aforementioned points and nobody did a good job defensively last night. Seeing how Durant received several wide open looks at the basket without anybody even bothering to close out on him was mind-numbing. Seeing how they got drives through the middle and how the 2nd rotation was late several times, which led to open dunks for their bigs, was the icing on top of this big cake of s***.

The worst part is, when we lost at OKC in the regular season, we had those same problems.
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Re: Problems with the team that need to be figured quick 

Post#19 » by dolphinatik » Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:18 pm

besides what they were doing I look at what we were not doing and thats defending the rim rebounding and executing in the 4th. Lets fix that.

We are still playing small ball against one of the bigger teams in the league at each position. Go figure.
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