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Re: Game 1 Post Game NBA Finals 

Post#241 » by cb1 » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:47 am

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cb1 wrote:Nobody is discrediting Durant but the dude just looks fresh in crunch time compared to Bron. He doesn't do nearly as much and it's not even close. We didn't even lose this game because of offense. Our defense is never this bad. This is only the third time we have up 100 points since the playoffs started.

Thats because you haven't played a healthy or as good a team as the thunder till now.
Our backcourt and starting frontcourt were injured
The Pacers suck.
Cs were old and lost their starting sg.

You need to realize that your D is good but you can't stop the Thunder. You need Lebron and Wade to counter KD and Durant offensively to have a shot. You are not stopping this team with your D.

We're gunna surprise you then. OKC's offense falls perfectly into our defensive trap but we have to play more guys on the bench.
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Re: Game 1 Post Game NBA Finals 

Post#242 » by narmerguy » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:48 am

WD wrote:if we ask the man that;'s KD is guarding to attack or make him work, his shot won't fall as easy - BUT WE DON'T - whoever is kicking our azz on offense gets a pass on defense.


Who's going to make him work though? Haslem? Battier? Lebron is doing his thing so there's nothing different he can do. But Haslem and Battier waiting for a kickout isn't exactly going to make Durant lose his breath.
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Re: Game 1 Post Game NBA Finals 

Post#243 » by ecnirp » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:48 am

GUYS I'VE FIGURED OUT THE PROBLEM!!!!

Ok..I've been following my pattern before game 6 of the Celtics series. I make sure I never post during the game thread when the game is going on. I listen to M83's Moonchild and Lower Your Eyelids Die with the Sun. I even bump the Good Job, Good Effort thread (this was after Game 6...but still). However, I forgot one more important thread.

I forgot to bump the DO or DO, Can LeBron score 40? thread. That was the flaw. My mistake. I will take care of that problem from here on out.
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Re: Game 1 Post Game NBA Finals 

Post#244 » by DefenseWins » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:49 am

Turiaf has a strained groin I heard.

JJ had a migraine and couldn't play

24-4 fastbreak points

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Re: Game 1 Post Game NBA Finals 

Post#245 » by WD » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:49 am

lalalisa wrote:Semi tangent: What bothers me the most about Spoelstra is his inability to speak in anything other than cliches and abstracts. Just be REAL

and imagine as a basketball player in crunch time hearing that sh@t all the time - don't you just wish that one of the other coaches pep talks leaks to the HEAT players?

Even his pre-game speeches are so bland and uninspiring, these players really have to play on their own emotions, he just sits on the sidelines with that dumbazz smile/look on his face.
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Re: Game 1 Post Game NBA Finals 

Post#246 » by thegreat0ne81 » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:49 am

WadeInTheWater wrote:Is it me or does it seem like Spo doesn't asign accountability post game and just sees it as part of the process because judging by our post game press conferences no one ever says 'i didn't get it going tonight' or 'this ones on me and i promise to come out better next game'.

Bingo. This is why I never feel like your team has a leader. No one ever calls out anyone. Your Head coach is a puppet that your star players don't believe in.

He can't call them out because they will turn on him. Lebron and Wade are not leaders like that. They care more about their image and it is never their fault. EVER. They never say "oh I had a bad game but I will come out better next game for my teammates". Never have I heard them put blame on themselves even when its apparent the loss falls on their shoulders.
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Re: Game 1 Post Game NBA Finals 

Post#247 » by Flash4thewin » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:50 am

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GameTime_3 wrote:Why is Wade injury a valid excuse? Watch Wade play. When he wants to attack, he can. Its not like KG where you could tell he was giving it his all and the body wasn't letting him go any further. Can anyone honestly say by watching WADE that his playing his heart out?

Come on MOD - don't pin this loss on WADES shoulder without considering all the factors, didn't he do or try to do some good things in this game?


I understand what your saying but this is not the game to defend Wade.

On the bright side the more Wade gets ripped a new a hole by the media (which will happen) the easier he can use that to motivate him for next game. Wade plays his best when he is doubted the most
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Re: Game 1 Post Game NBA Finals 

Post#248 » by OtW » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:50 am

I remember we got a foul on KD around the 10minute mark of the first quarter.

How come we never attack the guy that is in foul trouble?

And how come we never tried to mentally frustrate Westbrook? Dude was driving, laying himself out throwing wild lay ups, and getting mad at Shane. Pretty sure some Shawn Marion or Jason Terry-esque trash talk would have kept the ball sticking to his hand for more horrible mid-range pull ups that he was bricking until OKC went up.

OKC are bigger front runners than we are. Give them any breathing room and they will maximize it's use.

I knew the game was slipping away on that Westbrook and-1 at the end of the 3rd. They (OKC and their crowd) were too energized and we had relied too much on ISO ball. I did not see us coming back form that.
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Re: Game 1 Post Game NBA Finals 

Post#249 » by WadeInTheWater » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:50 am

ecnirp wrote:GUYS I'VE FIGURED OUT THE PROBLEM!!!!

Ok..I've been following my pattern before game 6 of the Celtics series. I make sure I never post during the game thread when the game is going on. I listen to M83's Moonchild and Lower Your Eyelids Die with the Sun. I even bump the Good Job, Good Effort thread (this was after Game 6...but still). However, I forgot one more important thread.

I forgot to bump the DO or DO, Can LeBron score 40? thread. That was the flaw. My mistake. I will take care of that problem from here on out.


At least someone is trying to make adjustments :lol:
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Re: Game 1 Post Game NBA Finals 

Post#250 » by narmerguy » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:50 am

ecnirp wrote:GUYS I'VE FIGURED OUT THE PROBLEM!!!!

Ok..I've been following my pattern before game 6 of the Celtics series. I make sure I never post during the game thread when the game is going on. I listen to M83's Moonchild and Lower Your Eyelids to the Sun. I even bump the Good Job, Good Effort thread (this was after Game 6...but still). However, I forgot one more important thread.

I forgot to bump the DO or DO, Can LeBron score 40? thread. That was the flaw. My mistake. I will take care of that problem from here on out.


Fking sick of your s*** man! Why would you let go of the rope? Everyone on this team has a job, just do you job. Stay in the moment. Don't let these threads just "run away". And other stuff our leader told us.
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Re: Game 1 Post Game NBA Finals 

Post#251 » by lalalisa » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:51 am

Flash4thewin wrote:
WD wrote:


I understand what your saying but this is not the game to defend Wade.

On the bright side the more Wade gets ripped a new a hole by the media (which will happen) the easier he can use that to motivate him for next game. Wade plays his best when he is doubted the most


This is true. Wade does like to take it to the "doubters." But let's face it, these doubters exist only because he gives them so much ammo sometimes
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Re: Game 1 Post Game NBA Finals 

Post#252 » by MiamiHeat305 » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:51 am

Relax this will be like the Chicago series last year and we will win 4 in a row! #cockyheatfan
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Re: Game 1 Post Game NBA Finals 

Post#253 » by WD » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:52 am

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WD wrote:if we ask the man that;'s KD is guarding to attack or make him work, his shot won't fall as easy - BUT WE DON'T - whoever is kicking our azz on offense gets a pass on defense.


Who's going to make him work though? Haslem? Battier? Lebron is doing his thing so there's nothing different he can do. But Haslem and Battier waiting for a kickout isn't exactly going to make Durant lose his breath.

This is the coaches job to figure out, but it appears the solution is to make sure you get the ball to Lebron to create for everybody, regardless if he's tired or not.

still not mad though - this is Brooks first finals appearance.
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Re: Game 1 Post Game NBA Finals 

Post#254 » by Voice_of_Reason » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:52 am

If this team can't get anything better than a heap of jumpshot, we are doomed. These bad shots just give more and more fast break opportunities to the Thunder. LeBron needs to catch ball a smidge closer so his post game can be more effective. Things looked better when PnR was higher, and gave room to attack.

Battier, good game.
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Re: Game 1 Post Game NBA Finals 

Post#255 » by Woolyy » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:52 am

Yeah I choked on posting the LeBron montage before the game. We are 3-0 when I link it!
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Re: Game 1 Post Game NBA Finals 

Post#256 » by thegreat0ne81 » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:52 am

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thegreat0ne81 wrote:Thats because you haven't played a healthy or as good a team as the thunder till now.
Our backcourt and starting frontcourt were injured
The Pacers suck.
Cs were old and lost their starting sg.

You need to realize that your D is good but you can't stop the Thunder. You need Lebron and Wade to counter KD and Durant offensively to have a shot. You are not stopping this team with your D.

We're gunna surprise you then. OKC's offense falls perfectly into our defensive trap but we have to play more guys on the bench.

No one in this planet can stop KD. Westbrook I think takes too many dumb shots so he can be stopped. But then again Harden only had 5 pts. That will not happen again. They have too many offensive weapons.

You need more offense. Which is why dinasour face needs to step up and play better on the boards. He needs to do more than just be a jump shooter. He needs to bang in there and try to get the offensive boards/tip ins that Collison is getting.

Wade has to get it going too. If he keeps playing like this due to age then you are done.
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Post#257 » by WadeInTheWater » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:53 am

thegreat0ne81 wrote:
WadeInTheWater wrote:Is it me or does it seem like Spo doesn't asign accountability post game and just sees it as part of the process because judging by our post game press conferences no one ever says 'i didn't get it going tonight' or 'this ones on me and i promise to come out better next game'.

Bingo. This is why I never feel like your team has a leader. No one ever calls out anyone. Your Head coach is a puppet that your star players don't believe in.

He can't call them out because they will turn on him. Lebron and Wade are not leaders like that. They care more about their image and it is never their fault. EVER. They never say "oh I had a bad game but I will come out better next game for my teammates". Never have I heard them put blame on themselves even when its apparent the loss falls on their shoulders.


I disagree to an extent, if you get a coach that is not scared and has respect around the league (anyone but Spo pretty much) then he can asign leadership to an MVP per say and the rest will fall in line. Doc Rivers comes down hard on Rondo when he doesn't get it going. How do i know? I am intrigued with coaching mindsets and how they get players motivated and let's just say i have seen alot of Doc in the dressing room adressing his stars.
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Re: Game 1 Post Game NBA Finals 

Post#258 » by cb1 » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:53 am

How do you only play 7 guys against a young team in the nba finals? How do you not play your best rim protector and pick n roll defender? How do you not give your stars a breather so they can close games? That my friends is Spobot at his best.
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Re: Game 1 Post Game NBA Finals 

Post#259 » by WD » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:54 am

Flash4thewin wrote:
WD wrote:
GameTime_3 wrote:Why is Wade injury a valid excuse? Watch Wade play. When he wants to attack, he can. Its not like KG where you could tell he was giving it his all and the body wasn't letting him go any further. Can anyone honestly say by watching WADE that his playing his heart out?

Come on MOD - don't pin this loss on WADES shoulder without considering all the factors, didn't he do or try to do some good things in this game?


I understand what your saying but this is not the game to defend Wade.

On the bright side the more Wade gets ripped a new a hole by the media (which will happen) the easier he can use that to motivate him for next game. Wade plays his best when he is doubted the most

I choose to be in the minority here and give Wade a pass this game. I am going to give Wade the benefit of the doubt tonight. If everyone says he played like crap, i'll take the azz whooping with him tonight

I remember when I payed football(played receiver) and we were losing to our cross town rivals and the defender was jamming me hard off the line(sh@t hurt like a mofo), coach kept calling the same play to my side until finally my best friend said in the huddle, "just hit him hard in the helmet, you're a decoy, I'm going with a slant." We won on a reverse slant. My teammates defending my bad play(cause I wasn't 100%). Bad memories, guy was actually head slapping me hard as heck.

anyway - Wade and I are gonna take the blame tonight.
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Re: Game 1 Post Game NBA Finals 

Post#260 » by thegreat0ne81 » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:55 am

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thegreat0ne81 wrote:Bingo. This is why I never feel like your team has a leader. No one ever calls out anyone. Your Head coach is a puppet that your star players don't believe in.

He can't call them out because they will turn on him. Lebron and Wade are not leaders like that. They care more about their image and it is never their fault. EVER. They never say "oh I had a bad game but I will come out better next game for my teammates". Never have I heard them put blame on themselves even when its apparent the loss falls on their shoulders.


I disagree to an extent, if you get a coach that is not scared and has respect around the league (anyone but Spo pretty much) then he can asign leadership to an MVP per say and the rest will fall in line. Doc Rivers comes down hard on Rondo when he doesn't get it going. How do i know? I am intrigued with coaching mindsets and how they get players motivated and let's just say i have seen alot of Doc in the dressing room adressing his stars.


Wait I think you misunderstood my point. I agree with you 100% that with the right coach leading the way Lebron would start to become a leader. But he has had crap coaches his whole life like Brown and Spoelstra. He needs someone who he respects so that he can get in his face when he does bad.

Kind of what like Phil did for Shaq. Lebron is not a natural born leader so he needs the right type of coach for that.

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