Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVI: Offseason Edition)

[BadMofoPimp]

I want Jerry Sloan myself pretty badly.

In a respect your elders way!

[MagicTownBaller]

Please make this happen Martins,

POB: Lindsey
GM: Hennigan
Assistant GM: Penn
Head Coach: Malone/Shaw

I would cry tears of joy if this happened.

[OrlChamps2030]

I want Jerry Sloan myself pretty badly.

In a respect your elders way!

If Dwight couldn't get along with Stan, what exactly makes you think he'll get along with Sloan?

[MagicTownBaller]

I want Jerry Sloan myself pretty badly.

In a respect your elders way!

If Dwight couldn't get along with Stan, what exactly makes you think he'll get along with Sloan?

He won't.

[PeePee la Fritz]

I want Jerry Sloan myself pretty badly.

In a respect your elders way!

If Dwight couldn't get along with Stan, what exactly makes you think he'll get along with Sloan?

He won't.

No way Sloan gets the job if Orlando plans on keeping Dwight

[magicman123]

the magic cant be that dumb

[OrlandO]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IdUGCZnvuA[/youtube]

[MagicTownBaller]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IdUGCZnvuA[/youtube]

Yeah, that had me cracking up when I saw it.

[dsg2021]

With that latest Berger article, I'm making our new Front Office Staff guess now too.

I don't think Lindsey comes unless he's PoB/GM or GM with a figurehead-ish PoB. I'd guess the same on Hennigan since he's with a potential dynasty Thunder team and an Asst GM like Lindsey already. I think Bower is 3rd place in the list based on interviewing schedule and a lack of excellent resume pedigree that Lindsey/Hennigan bring but I could see him as a more figurehead PoB if Lindsey and Hennigan know that and don't mind it (plus GM is where all the fun work is). That or Bower is being asked to be Director of PD or an Asst GM. Another figurehead PoB I'm looking at is Foyle. Both Foyle and Bower, especially, can input to Lindsey or Hennigan but unofficialy, the GM gets the final word here (via ownership).

The Magic are not utilizing two Asst GM's like other better-run teams, and I strongly suspect there is one-two more scouting spots at the least for the new GM to hire that other better-run teams have in rotation already. Unless Bower/Hennigan/Penn/etc is team oriented enough to be Asst GM or a figurehead PoB/GM, I'm going with Lindsey taking the head FO role as both PoB and GM because it was how Otis held the main spot and yet there will also be more team input and new positions so as not to make GM Lindsey the one and only FO voice either and to accomplish having that added input/angles for quality discussions/strategizing. For this, GM Lindsey will have the OK from Ownership/Martins to staff the FO with a few new spots and/or a couple replacements in the future. My instinct is that ownership will pay for something like two-four new Scouts and a second Asst GM with the potential option to replace current Asst GM Twardzik and shake up the Scouting department with replacement(s) and/or shuffling if warranting a need-to by GM Lindsey. I can't guess accurately what the new GM gets to actually do between replacing positions and/or more importantly adding a new Asst GM and Scout(s) but I'd sincerely hope the new GM does get that latitude to bring in any new critical personnel if he wants, especially as he searches for those qualified people and as the process in full varies between taking over a year or two, or just a couple weeks or months, or consistently transforming (stealing some former Spurs/Thunder FO Scouts/Execs seems a great way to go from my selfish Magic colored view). Getting one-two new Scouts and one right hand Asst GM/Executive like a multi-skilled Capologist that matches GM Lindsey's expectations seems the short hand way to quickly fortify a FO base that's among the best in the league on the basketball operations side.


Ownership: Rich and Dan DeVos and family.
Incredible Ownership who pay for their team and community to be like as if they were the big market cities.

Chief Executive Officer: Alex Martins.
Who has navigated, slowly but steadily, our franchise very admirably in this period. He gets an A+ in my book if he gets Lindsey or Hennigan here.

President of Basketball Operations/General Manager: Dennis Lindsey.
He has the experience, the FO title management and per Spurs/Rockets tenures a keen understanding of establishing roster plans and transitioning cycles, and the importance of drafting well for a title contender team. If Lindsey was really this choosy (passing 3-4 other franchise interviews/opportunities), then he sees something special here in Orlando. Hennigan is younger and less experienced but in my opinion, understands the same main principles and his fast rise is his counter pro to a timed experience executive. And for that, I'm great with either GM.

Assistant General Manager: Dave Twardzik.
He, Foyle, and the Scouts are doing work on this draft and are familiar with the current roster's chemistry and dynamics. I think Lindsey will need and want his input right off the bat.

(Primary) Assistant General Manager: Position to be filled eventually by Lindsey.
I think Martins, Twardzik and Foyle have a seniority and experience to remain part of the collective team. I'm not impressed by Twardzik's drafting but he has experience and he's in a secondary position to let his experience do nothing but help input and grow further under Lindsey. However, I see Lindsey eventually getting a secondary GM who will effectively be the right hand man of the team's FO.

Director of Player Development: Adonal Foyle.
I still see Foyle here because his sense of maturity, tact and ridiculously high intelligence warrants him to continue learning excellent basketball side operations via inputting with Lindsey and staff.

NBA Advance Scout: Al Walker and (one-two more Advanced Scout positions to be filled by Lindsey).
I'm not sure of the differences/clarifications between the Magic's scouts. They have two Regional Scouts, one NBA Advanced Scout, one Pro Scout, one Scouting Coordinator and one International Scouting Coordinator. I believe the NBA Advanced Scout has the most travel time, scout reporting, highest title within Scouting department, and most FO input. I'm guessing again, that Lindsey will be able to bring in one or two more Advanced Scouts from other franchises', especially if Lindsey is admiring their effectiveness and can lure them to the higher Advanced Scout title and pay if the scout(s) isn't receiving such yet.

Rest of Scouting Staff/Video Manager/Coordinator: Bob Staak remaining as Pro Scout, (one-two more Pro Scouts positions to be filled by Lindsey. My guess is this is the second highest ranking Scout position. My estimation on the warrant and need of these three-four new Scout positions is because my understandings are that not only are they critical to college/intl. drafting but also to waiver pick ups, formulating defensive adjustments to the Coaching staff/Players during the season and constructing scouting portfolios as heavy input to be put towards opinionating and forming specific trade targets/deals for the GM's and FO Staff.) The two Magic Regional Scouts are remaining as Tom Conrad and Greg Stratton. Scouting Coordinator remains as Brian Wright and International Scouting Coordinator remains as Sam Foggin. GM Lindsey reserves the right to review these Scouts for replacement/demotion if we have a case similar to that mal-knowledged Lakers Scout recently reported by media a month or so ago (I don't have the link but it was from a major news outlet reporting on the deterioration of the Lakers' FO and one seemingly unqualified and low exposure Scout).
I don't know the true importance of Video Manager and Video Coordinator but it seems to have value to GM's and FO/Coaching staff. I think they are critical in that they are picking from among days' worth of games action and splitting it into the best possible short and educative highlight segments for the Coaching/Scouting/FO/Players, so it has both importance and a degree of latitude for newer personnel to gain NBA Coaching/FO experience.

[MagicTownBaller]

With that latest Berger article, I'm making our new Front Office Staff guess now too.

I don't think Lindsey comes unless he's PoB/GM or GM with a figurehead-ish PoB. I'd guess the same on Hennigan since he's with a potential dynasty Thunder team and an Asst GM like Lindsey already. I think Bower is 3rd place in the list based on interviewing schedule and a lack of excellent resume pedigree that Lindsey/Hennigan bring but I could see him as a more figurehead PoB if Lindsey and Hennigan know that and don't mind it (plus GM is where all the fun work is). That or Bower is being asked to be Director of PD or an Asst GM. Another figurehead PoB I'm looking at is Foyle. Both Foyle and Bower, especially, can input to Lindsey or Hennigan but unofficialy, the GM gets the final word here (via ownership).

The Magic are not utilizing two Asst GM's like other better-run teams, and I strongly suspect there is one-two more scouting spots at the least for the new GM to hire that other better-run teams have in rotation already. Unless Bower/Hennigan/Penn/etc is team oriented enough to be Asst GM or a figurehead PoB/GM, I'm going with Lindsey taking the head FO role as both PoB and GM because it was how Otis held the main spot and yet there will also be more team input and new positions so as not to make GM Lindsey the one and only FO voice either and to accomplish having that added input/angles for quality discussions/strategizing. For this, GM Lindsey will have the OK from Ownership/Martins to staff the FO with a few new spots and/or a couple replacements in the future. My instinct is that ownership will pay for something like two-four new Scouts and a second Asst GM with the potential option to replace current Asst GM Twardzik and shake up the Scouting department with replacement(s) and/or shuffling if warranting a need-to by GM Lindsey. I can't guess accurately what the new GM gets to actually do between replacing positions and/or more importantly adding a new Asst GM and Scout(s) but I'd sincerely hope the new GM does get that latitude to bring in any new critical personnel if he wants, especially as he searches for those qualified people and as the process in full varies between taking over a year or two, or just a couple weeks or months, or consistently transforming (stealing some former Spurs/Thunder FO Scouts/Execs seems a great way to go from my selfish Magic colored view). Getting one-two new Scouts and one right hand Asst GM/Executive like a multi-skilled Capologist that matches GM Lindsey's expectations seems the short hand way to quickly fortify a FO base that's among the best in the league on the basketball operations side.


Ownership: Rich and Dan DeVos and family.
Incredible Ownership who pay for their team and community to be like as if they were the big market cities.

Chief Executive Officer: Alex Martins.
Who has navigated, slowly but steadily, our franchise very admirably in this period. He gets an A+ in my book if he gets Lindsey or Hennigan here.

President of Basketball Operations/General Manager: Dennis Lindsey.
He has the experience, the FO title management and per Spurs/Rockets tenures a keen understanding of establishing roster plans and transitioning cycles, and the importance of drafting well for a title contender team. If Lindsey was really this choosy (passing 3-4 other franchise interviews/opportunities), then he sees something special here in Orlando. Hennigan is younger and less experienced but in my opinion, understands the same main principles and his fast rise is his counter pro to a timed experience executive. And for that, I'm great with either GM.

Assistant General Manager: Dave Twardzik.
He, Foyle, and the Scouts are doing work on this draft and are familiar with the current roster's chemistry and dynamics. I think Lindsey will need and want his input right off the bat.

(Primary) Assistant General Manager: Position to be filled eventually by Lindsey.
I think Martins, Twardzik and Foyle have a seniority and experience to remain part of the collective team. I'm not impressed by Twardzik's drafting but he has experience and he's in a secondary position to let his experience do nothing but help input and grow further under Lindsey. However, I see Lindsey eventually getting a secondary GM who will effectively be the right hand man of the team's FO.

Director of Player Development: Adonal Foyle.
I still see Foyle here because his sense of maturity, tact and ridiculously high intelligence warrants him to continue learning excellent basketball side operations via inputting with Lindsey and staff.

NBA Advance Scout: Al Walker and (one-two more Advanced Scout positions to be filled by Lindsey).
I'm not sure of the differences/clarifications between the Magic's scouts. They have two Regional Scouts, one NBA Advanced Scout, one Pro Scout, one Scouting Coordinator and one International Scouting Coordinator. I believe the NBA Advanced Scout has the most travel time, scout reporting, highest title within Scouting department, and most FO input. I'm guessing again, that Lindsey will be able to bring in one or two more Advanced Scouts from other franchises', especially if Lindsey is admiring their effectiveness and can lure them to the higher Advanced Scout title and pay if the scout(s) isn't receiving such yet.

Rest of Scouting Staff/Video Manager/Coordinator: Bob Staak remaining as Pro Scout, (one-two more Pro Scouts positions to be filled by Lindsey. My guess is this is the second highest ranking Scout position. My estimation on the warrant and need of these three-four new Scout positions is because my understandings are that not only are they critical to college/intl. drafting but also to waiver pick ups, formulating defensive adjustments to the Coaching staff/Players during the season and constructing scouting portfolios as heavy input to be put towards opinionating and forming specific trade targets/deals for the GM's and FO Staff.) The two Magic Regional Scouts are remaining as Tom Conrad and Greg Stratton. Scouting Coordinator remains as Brian Wright and International Scouting Coordinator remains as Sam Foggin. GM Lindsey reserves the right to review these Scouts for replacement/demotion if we have a case similar to that mal-knowledged Lakers Scout recently reported by media a month or so ago (I don't have the link but it was from a major news outlet reporting on the deterioration of the Lakers' FO and one seemingly unqualified and low exposure Scout).
I don't know the true importance of Video Manager and Video Coordinator but it seems to have value to GM's and FO/Coaching staff. I think they are critical in that they are picking from among days' worth of games action and splitting it into the best possible short and educative highlight segments for the Coaching/Scouting/FO/Players, so it has both importance and a degree of latitude for newer personnel to gain NBA Coaching/FO experience.

Way too long of a post. Well thought out though.

[CPBalla2003 n da 863]

With that latest Berger article, I'm making our new Front Office Staff guess now too.

I don't think Lindsey comes unless he's PoB/GM or GM with a figurehead-ish PoB. I'd guess the same on Hennigan since he's with a potential dynasty Thunder team and an Asst GM like Lindsey already. I think Bower is 3rd place in the list based on interviewing schedule and a lack of excellent resume pedigree that Lindsey/Hennigan bring but I could see him as a more figurehead PoB if Lindsey and Hennigan know that and don't mind it (plus GM is where all the fun work is). That or Bower is being asked to be Director of PD or an Asst GM. Another figurehead PoB I'm looking at is Foyle. Both Foyle and Bower, especially, can input to Lindsey or Hennigan but unofficialy, the GM gets the final word here (via ownership).

The Magic are not utilizing two Asst GM's like other better-run teams, and I strongly suspect there is one-two more scouting spots at the least for the new GM to hire that other better-run teams have in rotation already. Unless Bower/Hennigan/Penn/etc is team oriented enough to be Asst GM or a figurehead PoB/GM, I'm going with Lindsey taking the head FO role as both PoB and GM because it was how Otis held the main spot and yet there will also be more team input and new positions so as not to make GM Lindsey the one and only FO voice either and to accomplish having that added input/angles for quality discussions/strategizing. For this, GM Lindsey will have the OK from Ownership/Martins to staff the FO with a few new spots and/or a couple replacements in the future. My instinct is that ownership will pay for something like two-four new Scouts and a second Asst GM with the potential option to replace current Asst GM Twardzik and shake up the Scouting department with replacement(s) and/or shuffling if warranting a need-to by GM Lindsey. I can't guess accurately what the new GM gets to actually do between replacing positions and/or more importantly adding a new Asst GM and Scout(s) but I'd sincerely hope the new GM does get that latitude to bring in any new critical personnel if he wants, especially as he searches for those qualified people and as the process in full varies between taking over a year or two, or just a couple weeks or months, or consistently transforming (stealing some former Spurs/Thunder FO Scouts/Execs seems a great way to go from my selfish Magic colored view). Getting one-two new Scouts and one right hand Asst GM/Executive like a multi-skilled Capologist that matches GM Lindsey's expectations seems the short hand way to quickly fortify a FO base that's among the best in the league on the basketball operations side.


Ownership: Rich and Dan DeVos and family.
Incredible Ownership who pay for their team and community to be like as if they were the big market cities.

Chief Executive Officer: Alex Martins.
Who has navigated, slowly but steadily, our franchise very admirably in this period. He gets an A+ in my book if he gets Lindsey or Hennigan here.

President of Basketball Operations/General Manager: Dennis Lindsey.
He has the experience, the FO title management and per Spurs/Rockets tenures a keen understanding of establishing roster plans and transitioning cycles, and the importance of drafting well for a title contender team. If Lindsey was really this choosy (passing 3-4 other franchise interviews/opportunities), then he sees something special here in Orlando. Hennigan is younger and less experienced but in my opinion, understands the same main principles and his fast rise is his counter pro to a timed experience executive. And for that, I'm great with either GM.

Assistant General Manager: Dave Twardzik.
He, Foyle, and the Scouts are doing work on this draft and are familiar with the current roster's chemistry and dynamics. I think Lindsey will need and want his input right off the bat.

(Primary) Assistant General Manager: Position to be filled eventually by Lindsey.
I think Martins, Twardzik and Foyle have a seniority and experience to remain part of the collective team. I'm not impressed by Twardzik's drafting but he has experience and he's in a secondary position to let his experience do nothing but help input and grow further under Lindsey. However, I see Lindsey eventually getting a secondary GM who will effectively be the right hand man of the team's FO.

Director of Player Development: Adonal Foyle.
I still see Foyle here because his sense of maturity, tact and ridiculously high intelligence warrants him to continue learning excellent basketball side operations via inputting with Lindsey and staff.

NBA Advance Scout: Al Walker and (one-two more Advanced Scout positions to be filled by Lindsey).
I'm not sure of the differences/clarifications between the Magic's scouts. They have two Regional Scouts, one NBA Advanced Scout, one Pro Scout, one Scouting Coordinator and one International Scouting Coordinator. I believe the NBA Advanced Scout has the most travel time, scout reporting, highest title within Scouting department, and most FO input. I'm guessing again, that Lindsey will be able to bring in one or two more Advanced Scouts from other franchises', especially if Lindsey is admiring their effectiveness and can lure them to the higher Advanced Scout title and pay if the scout(s) isn't receiving such yet.

Rest of Scouting Staff/Video Manager/Coordinator: Bob Staak remaining as Pro Scout, (one-two more Pro Scouts positions to be filled by Lindsey. My guess is this is the second highest ranking Scout position. My estimation on the warrant and need of these three-four new Scout positions is because my understandings are that not only are they critical to college/intl. drafting but also to waiver pick ups, formulating defensive adjustments to the Coaching staff/Players during the season and constructing scouting portfolios as heavy input to be put towards opinionating and forming specific trade targets/deals for the GM's and FO Staff.) The two Magic Regional Scouts are remaining as Tom Conrad and Greg Stratton. Scouting Coordinator remains as Brian Wright and International Scouting Coordinator remains as Sam Foggin. GM Lindsey reserves the right to review these Scouts for replacement/demotion if we have a case similar to that mal-knowledged Lakers Scout recently reported by media a month or so ago (I don't have the link but it was from a major news outlet reporting on the deterioration of the Lakers' FO and one seemingly unqualified and low exposure Scout).
I don't know the true importance of Video Manager and Video Coordinator but it seems to have value to GM's and FO/Coaching staff. I think they are critical in that they are picking from among days' worth of games action and splitting it into the best possible short and educative highlight segments for the Coaching/Scouting/FO/Players, so it has both importance and a degree of latitude for newer personnel to gain NBA Coaching/FO experience.

Damn, hell of a post, but i like your points

[Skin]

in a gay way?

Oh yes! In a VERY gay way!

maybe you and Alex Martins both, amirite??

I dunno. I can only hope that hiring Shaw would make Martins gay and bright!

[dsg2021]

I always type too much, you guys ain't used to it yet?

I'm for Shaw too. I think he helps keep Dwight in town and seems like an excellent "players' coach."

[arsenal6106]

I always type too much, you guys ain't used to it yet?

I'm for Shaw too. I think he helps keep Dwight in town and seems like an excellent "players' coach."

At the end of the day, w/e keeps Dwight here is the best move. Like others said, well thought out post DSG. Man I can't wait for the end of the week.


One more thing, do you think the casual Magic fan keeps up with the GM frenzy like we do? Do you think they're even aware that we're in the search for new GM?

[dsg2021]

I always type too much, you guys ain't used to it yet?

I'm for Shaw too. I think he helps keep Dwight in town and seems like an excellent "players' coach."

At the end of the day, w/e keeps Dwight here is the best move. Like others said, well thought out post DSG. Man I can't wait for the end of the week.


One more thing, do you think the casual Magic fan keeps up with the GM frenzy like we do? Do you think they're even aware that we're in the search for new GM?

I bet they know Otis/SVG are fired. It was pretty huge news everywhere. I dont think they keep up with the GM search unless it's in their Orlando Sentinel pages, or their mainstream website, so maybe some know from an ESPN/Yahoo/NBA article.

[mityamag]

Rob Hennigan is too young and his "responsibilities include overseeing the team's professional, college, and international scouting departments, as well as assisting GM Sam Presti with all player personnel matters and day-to-day management of basketball operations"

It'd good to have Lindsey as GM and Hennigan as his primary assistant.

[The Effect]

Rob Hennigan is too young and his "responsibilities include overseeing the team's professional, college, and international scouting departments, as well as assisting GM Sam Presti with all player personnel matters and day-to-day management of basketball operations"

It'd good to have Lindsey as GM and Hennigan as his primary assistant.

Sam Presti was only 31 when he became the GM of the thunder, and apparently this guy has too be pretty bright if he was able to work his way up the spurs front office so fast and then did the same with the thunder, so his age doesnt bother me at all. I seriously doubt he would make a lateral move to join us, especially since it seems like he is pretty close to Presti

Honestly, and this is just a guess on my part, but i think hes the guy that is going to get the job. To me, for him to just pop up as a finalist like this tells me a few things. He must of gotten a pretty good recommendation from people around the league for him to even get an interview at such a young age, and for him to go from unknown to finalist, he HAD to of really impressed alex to the point of him getting the meeting with the devos family.

I dont know much about him, but from the beginning, ive said i want someone from the spurs front office tree, that is an organization that just gets it! If this guy can bring some of that to the magic, i would be thrilled. So him OR lindsey (no way we get both) would be perfect in my eyes!

[CraZyPraiZ]

CEO: Alex Martins
President of Basketball Operations: Dennis Lindsey
General Manager: Rob Hennigan
Head Coach: Mike Malone

I'd sh*t myself.

LOL me too!!! Happily I might add.

[Blue_and_Whte]

CEO: Alex Martins
President of Basketball Operations: Dennis Lindsey
General Manager: Rob Hennigan
Head Coach: Mike Malone

I'd sh*t myself.

[Nyce_1]

With Alex wanting to go with a collective group to handle the FO decisions, it seems the goal is to take 2 of the 3 finalists. This can only explain why Bower is still in the running. If we can get Lindsey as PBO and Hennigan as GM, watch out. I'll be happy if we keep Dwight, and just as happy if we trade him.