OffSeason Free Agent Thread...Let's build a DYNASTY!

[Lord Leoshes]

Now while we are certainly not worried about next season yet, we have business to handle starting Tuesday in the Finals, here is a thread we can use to help build a dynasty. We are GREAT at SG/SF right now, I think we would all agree we need Big Men and PG's. Here is a list with all the good Pg's and Big men who will be available, and I'll update the list as soon as all these players sign with their new teams. If we lan just one of these big men, or one of these pg's, it will be huge for us. I've added a coupld of shooters in here too like Allen and Terry....let's face it we don't need them, but we'd take them.

Big Men
Kevin Garnett
Tim Duncan
Boris Diaw
Antawn Jamison
Marcus Camby
Chris Kaman
Carl Landry
Kenyon Martin
Aaron Gray
Hasheem Thabeet
Jared Jeffries
Kwame Brown
Samuel Dalembert could be reliesred
Brendan Haywood could be mnestied
Robin Lopez PHX roomers are PHX might not mtch offers.

PG's/Shooters
Steve Nash
Ray Allen
Jason Terry
Chauncey Billups
Andre Miller
Delonte West
Kirk Hinrich
Leondro Barbosa
Goran Dragic
Jason Kidd
Randy Foye
Raymond Felton
Jamal Crawford
Jordan Farmar
Mo Williams
Keyon Dooling
Jannero Pargo

Just a few more options.

[Miamis3rdRing]

What is Shaun Marion's contact like?

2 years left on it. Making roughly $9M per year. Out of our range unless we shake things up big time.

“If the Celtics don’t pan out for Allen, Sports Illustrated’s NBA writer Chris Mannix was told that the Knicks and Heat are at the top of his list. But a source very familiar with Allen’s situation told ESPNNewYork.com that the Heat, as well as potentially the Clippers, will be more attractive to the five-time All-Star in the offseason because they’re top teams that can offer more than the veteran’s minimum of $1.4 million. That will likely be the Knicks’ spending limit for free agents.

"Before Allen even considers the Knicks or any other team, it's a given that he's first going to see if the Celtics want him back and what his two veteran All-Star teammates, Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett, are planning."

http://clippers.ocregister.com/2012/06/ ... -clippers/

Come on down Ray!

[imchillin]

Shaun Marion is a dude I really want on this team for defensive purposes. I dont know but he fits, wish he was cheap


Need a center badly, someone tell Pat Riley to call Hibbert tell him we got no money but he can win

[Vampire Diaries]

KG, Nash, Ray Allen...I seriously believe we end up with 1 of those 3, then one other person on the original list. 2 straight finals appearances would make these veterans VERY VERY interested in Miami

[RJM]

Sign Steve Nash, Marcus Camby, amnesty Mike Miller, sign Ray Allen, let Juwan Howard retire, sign Greg Oden as a project big, make a decision on either Eddy Curry or Dexter Pittman, retain Terrel Harris, bring back Ronny Turiaf, and call it an offseason.

We would go from...

Chalmers/Cole
Wade/Miller/Harris
LeBron/Battier/Jones
Bosh/Haslem/Howard
Turiaf/Anthony/Pittman/Curry

...to....

PG: Steve Nash/Mario Chalmers/Norris Cole
SG: Dwyane Wade/Ray Allen/Terrel Harris
SF: LeBron James/Shane Battier/James Jones
PF: Chris Bosh/Udonis Haslem/Joel Anthony
C: Marcus Camby/Ronny Turiaf/Greg Oden

Next thread, please.

[zogster]

I want KG more than anyone. Our defense would be insane.

Rio/Wade/LeBron/Bosh/KG, that lineup would be so sick. Wade and LeBron would have driving lanes everywhere with Bosh and KG being able to shoot from 20 feet.

[Lord Leoshes]

I want KG more than anyone. Our defense would be insane.

Rio/Wade/LeBron/Bosh/KG, that lineup would be so sick. Wade and LeBron would have driving lanes everywhere with Bosh and KG being able to shoot from 20 feet.

Me to, but it will never happen.

[Flash4thewin]

I want KG more than anyone. Our defense would be insane.

Rio/Wade/LeBron/Bosh/KG, that lineup would be so sick. Wade and LeBron would have driving lanes everywhere with Bosh and KG being able to shoot from 20 feet.

Me to, but it will never happen.

Why not? The main reason KG wouldnt sign up is if Boston overpays him. If they dont what other team can out bid us and is still a contender? Also he could be our starter at C. Starting on a contender in Miami vs what other team?

[DefenseWins]

I can't see Mario not starting for us if we get Nash or somebody else.

Especially after giving Mario a contract.

He also has the best chemistry with the Big 3 in terms of starting.

[Vertical Limit]

Kevin Garnett is getting 10 million per year. He's a top center in the league still, only reason he's not getting max is because he's old but he WILL get 10 million per year minimum. Forget about him, and just draft the tallest most athletic guy in the draft with the 27th pick and develop him ASAP. Oh yeah, I'm about as done with the Pittman project as I was with the Dorrell "Tracy McGrady" Wright project.

I want Gerald Wallace if possible, if not then I would go with Ray Allen, and then Crawford.

Ray Allen is a bit more disciplined than Crawford which is why I like him on our team. Crawford is a chucker.

[Woolyy]

Brandon Roy

[RexBoyWonder]

The only Guys that are Both somewhat realistic and would definitely be upgrades are :

1.Steve Nash - could split the minutes with Rio and Guide him, Provides extremly high BBIQ, Great Shooting, great floor general with no ego (he's not the best Fit with Wade and Bron, but he's smart enough to find a way to fit, and would help Bosh alot).

2.Kevin Garnett - Still a Defensive Force, still has a sweet Jumper. That's all we need at our Center spot. He'll be a great fit basketball wise, but i highly doubt he would join us after we kicked his ass in the last 2 seasons.

3.Jason Terry - provides high level outside shooting with the ability to create for himself, could be our scorer from the bench or even give minutes at PG. very good fit with the big 3, and might be intrested to join the Heat situation (little money, big games and fame).

4.Samuel Dalembert - not as talented as the other options but seems like a really great fit. great rebounder, great defender, great size, great shotblocking. if he'll get motivated he could be our poor man's Tyson Chandler.

5. Boris Diaw - good fit on the offensive end, most likely just stay with Spurs but would help us for sure if we could get him.

Dont forget we also have the 27 pick in this Year's draft..So hopefully we could get lucky there.

If we can get one of Nash/Terry and one of KG/Dally/Diaw - i'll be Extremely Pleased. any 2 of those would take us to the next level as a complete team.

[OtW]

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/ ... rds-radar/

Report: Heat, Knicks, Clippers on Jamal Crawford’s radar
Jamal Crawford is not returning to Portland last year. That turned out to be a failed experiment.

So where does the former Sixth Man of the Year — who has put up pretty pedestrian numbers the last couple seasons — want to play next? Sam Amico of Fox Sports Ohio reports some rumors on that.

Teams said to be on his radar include the Heat, Clippers, Kings, Knicks and Cavaliers.

If you look at that list, the question becomes does he want to get paid or does he want to contend.

With the Heat, he could provide scoring off the bench but they can only offer the mini mid-level at most ($3 million, and he made $5 million last year). Plus, Crawford would be relegated to more spot-up shooting, something he did at a 35.2 percent clip last season.

The Kicks could use the scoring, too, but they can offer less (because they will have to use their mid-level on Jeremy Lin or another point guard. And again, the ball would likely be in his hands less (hello ‘Melo!) and 48.1 percent of his offense came from isolation as the pick-and-roll ball handler last season.

The Clippers could offer a full mid-level ($5 million), and they need a two guard. However, what they really need is not scoring but defense out of their two guard. Not sure about the fit.

The Kings could pay but not sure they need another wing player. The Cavs could use him and they have cap space.

It’s going to be interesting to see where he lands.

On top of that, Brandon Roy is coming out of retirement and wants to make a come back. He is probably looking at a bench role right now.

So. we have a bunch of people to fill out that role that Miller will probably vacate one way or another this off season via trade/amnesty/retirement.

[DefenseWins]

I'd like scoring off the bench but not a chucker...

Wade, LeBron and Bosh will still get their FG's but we need a guy off the bench when LBJ/Wade aren't on the floor.

Not a fan of Crawford, or even people like JR Smith (look at how he played for the Knicks this year... had back to back 3-15 games).

Jason Terry I think still has some stuff left him in... I kind of don't like him but he scores a lot still. But I wouldn't want him at the end of games, just strict scoring off the bench.

I wonder if we'll pick Fab Melo or Festus Ezeli, SOMEBODY as the Center from the draft. Center talks have seemed to die down. We'll see, because we still need one.

[Slot Machine]

On top of that, Brandon Roy is coming out of retirement and wants to make a come back. He is probably looking at a bench role right now.

So. we have a bunch of people to fill out that role that Miller will probably vacate one way or another this off season via trade/amnesty/retirement.

I want no part of a Brandon Roy comeback. There's a reason he retired in the first place, his comeback will go south quickly because there is no way you could play extended minutes on knees with no cartilage. Plus, I actually like the guy and don't want to see him completely fall apart before our eyes.

[Lord Leoshes]

I want KG more than anyone. Our defense would be insane.

Rio/Wade/LeBron/Bosh/KG, that lineup would be so sick. Wade and LeBron would have driving lanes everywhere with Bosh and KG being able to shoot from 20 feet.

Me to, but it will never happen.

Why not?

Because KG, isn't exactly best palls with Bron/Wade/Bosh. I thought you would know that being a fellow Heat fan.
I wish it is all a just an act but it sure doesn't look that way.

[Josephpaul]

Kg would never join. Jamal will need to take a pay cut.

[RexBoyWonder]

Mario-28, Terry-14, Cole-6
Wade-32, Terry-16, Harris
Lebron-36, Battier-12, Miller
Bosh-34, Haslem-14, Battier
Dalembert-24, Dexter-16, Joel-8


Break down : Jason terry's shooting will come very handy. he looked good this year and has something left in the tank. he'll get great looks in our offense and help keep the spacing and driving lanes open.
Wade and Bosh should'nt grind a ton of minuts, Both could benfit from extra rest when possible. not only will it help us in long run it would also make their minutes count more in terms of motor and energy and give them the opportunity to play hard on D and on the boards.
Cole is only expected to get spot minutes, maybe more if we need him to shadow someone on defense or if he gets his jumper going.
Miller and Harris are totally out of the rotaion, when we're healthy we dont need them (amnestying Miller gives us nothing, but Harris might be gone).
Haslem's and Battier's minutes are reduces, but both could earn more playing time if they get their offense going. Haslem could get extra mintes at the Center and Battier can get some Extra minutes as a SG OR at PF, depends on matchups. we're not depended on their streaky shooting.
Dalembert is still a very good rebounder and shot blocker, both are needed here. on offense he's no worse and might be better then anyone we played at C the last couple of seasons. Dexter showed some nice flashed of what he can bring - has a nice touch and a real inside presence. Joel will the spark off the bench and could get more minutes depends on matchups.

[Tuff Gong]

Because KG, isn't exactly best palls with Bron/Wade/Bosh. I thought you would know that being a fellow Heat fan.
I wish it is all a just an act but it sure doesn't look that way.

Uhh, Garnett and Wade are actually good friends from what I've read.

They were sitting together during the Dunk Contest in 2011 too.

[Skip2MY]

Ok... Let's get into the science of capology... We are around 77mil in salary... Mini mle status... But things are promising with the rumors of Mike Miller retiring which I think are definite. We would still be over the tax line but we have two positive scenarios to work with:

1. Mike Miller retires scenario: Miller retires then we still have the amnesty... To get under the tax we amnesty Joel... Yes it hurts but besides the untouchables Jones doesn't make enough and no way it's haslem or Chalmers. We now have the larger MLE that we definitely have to get a center for.

2. Mike Miller doesn't retire: we have to amnesty Miller because we will never be close enough to the tax line again. Then we have to either trade positive assets for cap. I prefer not to trade the pick yet but if we can trade some cap to get under the tax like Cole and Jones and cash for early 2nds(1sts may be a reach)cavs have two early. May get us under the tax and give us positive assets in early 2nds in a deep draft where you don't have to pay the pick guaranteed money. We could always try to move up in the 1st or get another late 1st. But Miami is in a win now situation so you may want to trade picks for more win now pieces.


MLE: I'm going with Marcus Camby ~3mil(league leading rebs per 48) or Samuel Dalembert (best one on one
defense versus Howard) then if the rumors of Ray are right the rest of the mle ~2mil would out bid the knicks but I'm certain would not be enough to outbid clippers Chicago and celtics. My dark Horse is Gerald Green... Check stats before you debate.

Amnesty: Brandon Haywood is someone who will likely be amnestied and if LeBron and Kendrick Perkins didn't have such a bad relationship, he's getting amnestied for the thunder to keep their 4 in tact.

Vet minimum: Brandon Roy, Greg Oden both high reward, low risk. Shooter like Kapono or knicks shooter(forgot his name) to replace Jones if traded etc


Trade: like I said earlier having the positive assets... Trade picks we can trade for the help necessary. Best case scenario is we get a 2nd late 1st. I would go after Aaron Affalo... He would be perfect bringing scoring off the bench with high percentages... Bringing down wades minutes (health wise)... As well as insurance... Plays both wing positions... But he has a longer contract and he wasn't quite the leader Denver expected him to be and now with the glut of wings since bringing Wilson chandler back they may just be looking for assets for more trades. Maybe battier and Joel and the picks? Wesley Matthews I'd put #2 on that list.