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Re: Sources say Rockets will get Leonard if he's available 

Post#141 » by MaxRider » Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:00 pm

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I think we would require a pick. Lowry straight up is not enough.

there are plenty of big man available in the draft
we are lottery team
we need our pick for future
even better if our team suck in the next 2 years
better draft position
i'm sick of #14 pick in 3 straight year
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Re: Sources say Rockets will get Leonard if he's available 

Post#142 » by College Boy » Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:52 am

jredsaz wrote:I think we would require a pick. Lowry straight up is not enough.

How about Lowry plus Deez?
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Re: Sources say Rockets will get Leonard if he's available 

Post#143 » by TMU » Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:20 am

Can we please please move up and draft Michael Kidd-Gilchrist? This guy will be a star and he's the best player in the draft, period.
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Re: Sources say Rockets will get Leonard if he's available 

Post#144 » by MaxRider » Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:24 pm

TMU wrote:Can we please please move up and draft Michael Kidd-Gilchrist? This guy will be a star and he's the best player in the draft, period.

welcome to my boat
2 months ago i said if i have the #1 pick i will pick Kidd-Gilchrist and not Davis
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Re: Draft 2012 

Post#145 » by MaxRider » Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:42 pm

nbadraft.net mock draft has us taking Sullinger at #14 and Teague #16
they got us correct last year with Marcus Morris
anyone think this will be accurate?
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Re: Draft 2012 

Post#146 » by rocketseagles07 » Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:40 pm

MaxRider wrote:nbadraft.net mock draft has us taking Sullinger at #14 and Teague #16
they got us correct last year with Marcus Morris
anyone think this will be accurate?
is morey reading this forum?
is he listening to me?


not only do I not want sulli we don't need him(I know best player available blah blah). I'm not crazy about either one of those picks, teague did play well later in the year though especially in the tournament...
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Re: Draft 2012 

Post#147 » by TayP » Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:15 pm

Right now with NO wanting Sully instead of Zeller and Bucks leaning toward Leonard and Philly already having Vucevic then Jones III and Zeller are likely your picks. How would you guys feel about it? I mean to me it is a good draft you get your c and a high risk/high reward prospect that is from Texas.

OT but I would love to see identical twins play on the same professional team.

What about Telfair 2013 and 2014 2nd round pick from the Suns for Morris? You guys get a back up pg and 2 likely high 2nds.
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Re: Draft 2012 

Post#148 » by TMU » Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:25 pm

TayP wrote:Right now with NO wanting Sully instead of Zeller and Bucks leaning toward Leonard and Philly already having Vucevic then Jones III and Zeller are likely your picks. How would you guys feel about it? I mean to me it is a good draft you get your c and a high risk/high reward prospect that is from Texas.

OT but I would love to see identical twins play on the same professional team.

What about Telfair 2013 and 2014 2nd round pick from the Suns for Morris? You guys get a back up pg and 2 likely high 2nds.


Would you do it if you were the Rockets?
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Re: Draft 2012 

Post#149 » by MaxRider » Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:38 pm

TayP wrote:Right now with NO wanting Sully instead of Zeller and Bucks leaning toward Leonard and Philly already having Vucevic then Jones III and Zeller are likely your picks. How would you guys feel about it? I mean to me it is a good draft you get your c and a high risk/high reward prospect that is from Texas.

OT but I would love to see identical twins play on the same professional team.

What about Telfair 2013 and 2014 2nd round pick from the Suns for Morris? You guys get a back up pg and 2 likely high 2nds.

very funny
you can have morris if you give us the 13th pick
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Re: Draft 2012 

Post#150 » by Mr. E » Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:36 am

TayP wrote:that is from Texas.


I really don't get this line of reasoning.

We see it quite often: "Oh, he's a Texas guy!"

So often it will be something like "He'd be great in Houston....He's a Texas Guy!" And he's from somewhere around DFW or Austin. Hell, even if he was from Houston it wouldn't make him that much more of an appeal (see Lewis, Rashard or Thabeet, Hasheem).

Saying that someone is from Texas does not lead to a pass on any negatives. Granted, Texans are by far and away superior to all, but that is beside the point. ;)
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Re: Draft 2012 

Post#151 » by MaxRider » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:42 pm

dion waiters top 10 pick o.o
omg he was projected to be early 2nd round before the lottery
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Re: Draft 2012 

Post#152 » by texasholdem » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:31 am

Mr. E wrote:
TayP wrote:that is from Texas.


I really don't get this line of reasoning.

We see it quite often: "Oh, he's a Texas guy!"

So often it will be something like "He'd be great in Houston....He's a Texas Guy!" And he's from somewhere around DFW or Austin. Hell, even if he was from Houston it wouldn't make him that much more of an appeal (see Lewis, Rashard or Thabeet, Hasheem).


Come on Rashard was a very good player until he got that outrageous contract and even his first two years in Orlando were pretty good. It's not fair to put him in the same category as Thabeet, who really only played his senior year of high school in Houston, so he's about as much of a native as Steve Francis or Sam Cassell (both played JuCo at SanJac)
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Re: Draft 2012 

Post#153 » by Ribalding » Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:24 pm

Speaking of DFW guys...

If his stock continues to fall, would you take Perry Jones III at 14?
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Re: Draft 2012 

Post#154 » by texasholdem » Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:36 pm

Ribalding wrote:Speaking of DFW guys...

If his stock continues to fall, would you take Perry Jones III at 14?


Maybe at 16. Or would Philly take him at 15?

Hmm. this has me remembering the last time we had both the 14th and 16th picks.

13. ORL - Keon Clark
14. HOU - Michael Dickerson
15. ORL = Matt Harpring
16. HOU - Bryce Drew
17. MIN - Rasho Nesterovic
18. HOU - Mirsad Turkcan

Hated Harpring when was with the Jazz but he easily had the best NBA career of this group (although Rasho did win a championship with the Spurs)
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Re: Draft 2012 

Post#155 » by rocketseagles07 » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:09 am

Ribalding wrote:Speaking of DFW guys...

If his stock continues to fall, would you take Perry Jones III at 14?


ahhhh I think we have to. I could see philly taking him also but I think they want Moultrie. Very likely he'll be a bust and I hate that he said his biggest problem in college was his confidence. Like I said before, I don't think bu's coach put him in good spots nor did he do a good job of developing him but he just has so much potential....
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Re: Draft 2012 

Post#156 » by College Boy » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:21 am

Ribalding wrote:Speaking of DFW guys...

If his stock continues to fall, would you take Perry Jones III at 14?


I've been saying we should take Perry if he's available. (Though his attitude reminds me of Eddie Griffin)

texasholdem wrote:Hmm. this has me remembering the last time we had both the 14th and 16th picks.

13. ORL - Keon Clark
14. HOU - Michael Dickerson
15. ORL = Matt Harpring
16. HOU - Bryce Drew
17. MIN - Rasho Nesterovic
18. HOU - Mirsad Turkcan

Hated Harpring when was with the Jazz but he easily had the best NBA career of this group (although Rasho did win a championship with the Spurs)


Wow, 5 white guys in a row... That doesn't seem like that happens very often anymore.
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Re: Draft 2012 

Post#157 » by MaxRider » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:54 am

best 16th pick in the last xxx years
john stockton (1984)
ron artest (1999)

best 14th pick
cyle drexler (1983)
peja stojakovic (1996)
tim hardaway (1989)
dan majerle (1988)

last time both 14th and 16th picks actually stay in this league long enough (1997)
mo taylor and brevin knight

worst 14th and 16th pick (1993)
scott haskin and rex walters
i can't remember who they are

in the last 30 years
about 6 14th and 16th picks turnout to be good players
so that's 6/60 = 10%
10% we will get someone will be an all-star
bad news is 90% >>>>> 10%
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Re: Draft 2012 

Post#158 » by rocketsballin » Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:01 am

excuse the laziness, but when exactly is the draft? i know its at the last month of june, and after game 7 of the finals
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Re: Draft 2012 

Post#159 » by MaxRider » Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:19 am

rocketsballin wrote:excuse the laziness, but when exactly is the draft? i know its at the last month of june, and after game 7 of the finals

sorry but if spend all the time typing all that
why not ask google when is the draft?
The NBA Draft is on Thursday, June 28, 2012.
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Re: Draft 2012 

Post#160 » by jredsaz » Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:46 pm

MaxRider wrote:best 16th pick in the last xxx years
john stockton (1984)
ron artest (1999)

best 14th pick
cyle drexler (1983)
peja stojakovic (1996)
tim hardaway (1989)
dan majerle (1988)

last time both 14th and 16th picks actually stay in this league long enough (1997)
mo taylor and brevin knight

worst 14th and 16th pick (1993)
scott haskin and rex walters
i can't remember who they are

in the last 30 years
about 6 14th and 16th picks turnout to be good players
so that's 6/60 = 10%
10% we will get someone will be an all-star
bad news is 90% >>>>> 10%


You did all that math to prove your picks are more valuable as a trade asset for a proven commodity rather than the actual picks themselves. However, when discussing a trade for Gortat you stated that keeping those pics was better for your team. It seems to me a known commodity like Gortat, a borderline all-star at the 5 is better that a 10% chance at landing an All-Star with the pics.

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