Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Jeremy Lamb (HOU)

[nahom1319]

I'm not a huge Lamb supporter, but I'll take him over Rivers every time. The defensive potential and high efficiency midrange game sell it for me. I think the difference in their three point game is over-stated too. Taken as a package Lamb is the superior prospect,

Yep as long as your convinced that you can keep him focused on getting better. Lamb looks to have superior tools. Its just whether or not you believe the little things said about him. "Doesn't like contact", "can be tentative", etc.

[fredericklove]

how is lamb's handles and face up game, i know rivers has a great one...i dont want lamb to have demar issues, watching lamb in college he just shoots and cuts and straight dribbles...not a lot of breakdown ability which is needed at the guard spots in the league

His handle is actually considered one of his strengths and his face up game is pretty good because he has so many ways to get his shots off, including a really good 1-2 steps pull up or stepback J and a deadly floater that he uses high off the glass.

His breakdown ability is quite good when ISO, its not just straight dribbles but when Lamb ISO, he'll use a mix of good crossover dribble, good change of pace/hesitation, low dribble and roll to the basket when there's opening to go for his floater moves. He's not as good as Rivers at p&r ability but he's better than him at ISO at the top.

[raptor21_85]

i dunno why you even discuss this when we know BC will trade the pick..

[fredericklove]

i dunno why you even discuss this when we know BC will trade the pick..

i dunno why you even discuss this when you're not even BC.

[raptor21_85]

i dunno why you even discuss this when we know BC will trade the pick..

i dunno why you even discuss this when you're not even BC.

anyways,
what i want to happen: draft Lamb
what i think it will happen: trade the pick

[Undefeated]

how is lamb's handles and face up game, i know rivers has a great one...i dont want lamb to have demar issues, watching lamb in college he just shoots and cuts and straight dribbles...not a lot of breakdown ability which is needed at the guard spots in the league

His handle is actually considered one of his strengths and his face up game is pretty good because he has so many ways to get his shots off, including a really good 1-2 steps pull up or stepback J and a deadly floater that he uses high off the glass.

His breakdown ability is quite good when ISO, its not just straight dribbles but when Lamb ISO, he'll use a mix of good crossover dribble, good change of pace/hesitation, low dribble and roll to the basket when there's opening to go for his floater moves. He's not as good as Rivers at p&r ability but he's better than him at ISO at the top.

That's what I call a triple-threat player. Best one probably in this draft hands down imo.

[MEDIC]

After watching MORE game tape of various prospects, Lamb is easily our guy at 8 in my books. Unless Barnes drops of course.......

Rivers looks like a slightly taller Bayless. Not sure how that helps the team significantly.

Lillard is OK.

We don't need any more bigs.

Draft Lamb

or

Trade #8 + Ed Davis + Filler for Wilson Chandler & the 20th pick.

[Fenris-77]

Trade #8 + Ed Davis + Filler for Wilson Chandler & the 20th pick.

I was with you up until here. This I don't get though. Chandler is ok, but he's not great, and he's really not worth the 8th pick, never mind with Davis thrown in as ballast. I'm curious why you like it though. Maybe you have a nefarious plan...

[JamesNaismith]

Trade #8 + Ed Davis + Filler for Wilson Chandler & the 20th pick.

That is one of THE worst trades I've seen proposed in a long time.

[MEDIC]

Trade #8 + Ed Davis + Filler for Wilson Chandler & the 20th pick.

I was with you up until here. This I don't get though. Chandler is ok, but he's not great, and he's really not worth the 8th pick, never mind with Davis thrown in as ballast. I'm curious why you like it though. Maybe you have a nefarious plan...

Well......Chandler is definitely no allstar, but he fits what the Raptors want in a SF. Good defender, Good 3 point shooter, good rebounder. Plus he has a very good contract. Plus you can still get a decent player at 20. With Chandler's recent production, I don't think most people would feel that he was a bust if he was picked 8th overall.

Ed Davis is pretty much disposable.

Not a phoenominal plan, but if the Raps want to start competing for the playoffs........

If you can get better value for Ed Davis & the 8th pick, even better. I have no idea who that would be though.

If we're keeping the pick, just draft Lamb & see if we can turn him into an allstar one day. We've already had one player with a similar personality to Lamb (Bosh) & he did pretty well for himself.

[MEDIC]

Trade #8 + Ed Davis + Filler for Wilson Chandler & the 20th pick.

That is one of THE worst trades I've seen proposed in a long time.

Hey man, we traded the #2 overall pick for an aging Charles Oakley.

We also traded the 5th overall pick for an aging Antonio Davis.......

I think people have to be realistic. It's an 8th pick......not top 3.

[JamesNaismith]

You don't trade a TOP 10 pick (who probably has the highest upside of anyone in the conversation + another former LOTTO pick (only in his 3rd year) for a role player + late first round....just smh.

[MEDIC]

You don't trade a TOP 10 pick (who probably has the highest upside of anyone in the conversation + another former LOTTO pick (only in his 3rd year) for a role player + late first round....just smh.

Maybe you should have been in charge instead of Grunwald.

Let me ask you this then........if the Raps decide to trade the pick (& there is a good chance they do), what do you think the minimum value will be? What kind of veteran player can we get for the 8th pick?

[JamesNaismith]

Trade #8 + Ed Davis + Filler for Wilson Chandler & the 20th pick.

That is one of THE worst trades I've seen proposed in a long time.

Hey man, we traded the #2 overall pick for an aging Charles Oakley.

We also traded the 5th overall pick for an aging Antonio Davis.......

I think people have to be realistic. It's an 8th pick......not top 3.

So therefore that validates this trade?!? lol

Not to mention we had VC + McGrady in place; 2 cornerstone players that needed guidance from veterans....2 ALL-STAR calibre veterans at that....no such players exist on this roster and Chandler is nowhere near the level either of those vets were.

Again....turrible!!!

[MEDIC]

So therefore that validates this trade?!? lol

Of course it doesn't validate the trade, but your reaction was one that suggested that the trade was complete insanity.

Again......the Raptors MAY trade the pick. What do you think they would get for it?

[JamesNaismith]

So therefore that validates this trade?!? lol

Of course it doesn't validate the trade, but your reaction was one that suggested that the trade was complete insanity.

Again......the Raptors MAY trade the pick. What do you think they would get for it?

Come on, unless you live under a rock what are the names you've heard attached to it?!?

And of them the only one I would be willing to package it in with is Rudy Gay (coincidently #8 pick if I'm not mistaken)....so you don't give up a kid who can have a similar potential PLUS another former lotto pick. That's just kind of foolish.

This is the kind of trade where the league laughs at you...*ahem* #6 for GWallace

As I'm writing this I'm really thinking to myself I can't believe I'm having to explain this.

[JamesNaismith]

Funny where each name we're attached to in a trade were selected....Gay (#8), Deng (#7), Igoudala (#9)


Think about that for a second.

[fredericklove]

Trade #8 + Ed Davis + Filler for Wilson Chandler & the 20th pick.

That is one of THE worst trades I've seen proposed in a long time.

Hey man, we traded the #2 overall pick for an aging Charles Oakley.

We also traded the 5th overall pick for an aging Antonio Davis.......

I think people have to be realistic. It's an 8th pick......not top 3.

And we will not make the same mistake again. No trade.

[Marlo Stanfield]

Trade #8 + Ed Davis + Filler for Wilson Chandler & the 20th pick.

That is one of THE worst trades I've seen proposed in a long time.

Hey man, we traded the #2 overall pick for an aging Charles Oakley.

We also traded the 5th overall pick for an aging Antonio Davis.......

I think people have to be realistic. It's an 8th pick......not top 3.

Bryan wasn't even the GM at those times. Saying we've done it before means nothing.

[Mister Ze]

The 8th pick in this relatively deep draft could still become an all-star. If the Raptors choose to trade it for a veteran, he should have all-star level talent or be a young prospect. Gay, Iggy, or even Lowry would be worth trading the pick for.