Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Jeremy Lamb (HOU)

[MEDIC]

As I'm writing this I'm really thinking to myself I can't believe I'm having to explain this.

All this from a guy who was being a complete douche in last season's draft thread when I (& others) suggested that Lamb would be a very good player & probable lottery pick one day..............

Quit being so arrogant.

[JamesNaismith]

As I'm writing this I'm really thinking to myself I can't believe I'm having to explain this.

All this from a guy who was being a complete douche in last season's draft thread when I (& others) suggested that Lamb would be a very good player & probable lottery pick one day..............

Quit being so arrogant.

I'm not insulting you but I really do find it baffling based on my explanation why you have a hard time understanding it.

[MEDIC]

The 8th pick in this relatively deep draft could still become an all-star. If the Raptors choose to trade it for a veteran, he should have all-star level talent or be a young prospect. Gay, Iggy, or even Lowry would be worth trading the pick for.

- Gay is a proven talent offensively. Contract is horrible. Defense is suspect.
- Iggy is 1.5 years shy of 30. His contract is also crappy, but I like his overall game.
- Lowry is far from an allstar.

Chandler is paid 1/3 of what Gay makes, 1/2 of what Iggy makes. He's a better defender than Gay. Similar scoring production as Iggy.

Overall, I think Chandler's contract is better value if you are trying to move forward building a team. Paying Gay 18 million per is going to kill our cap & not leave us any room to continue to build.

After adding a starting SF, we still need to add a PG an possibly a SG. We're gonna need that money.

I don't think taking on a huge contract is a good idea right now. Adding quality players, while maintaining financial flexability is the way to go if you're going to consider trading that draft pick. A Gay or an Iggy is not going to take this team anywhere except cash strapped.

Eventually, the hope is that most of the scoring production is going to come from our bigs. Andrea is going to be our main scoring threat for at least a couple of seasons (unless a trade such as the Rudy Gay one happens). The hope is that Jonas can eventually average 15ppg or more. You add shooters/ defenders on the wings & a PG that can penetrate & you've got a pretty strong team in a few years.

If you could somehow also pry Lawson away in that trade, then you have to strongly consider the trade.

Ed Davis, Bayless, 8th pick

For

Chandler, Lawson, 20th pick

You've got 2 potential young starters moving forward on very good contracts.

[fredericklove]

Medic, I don't mean to act like a jacka$s but I was claimed by some to be one anyways, I don't mind guys come in and pinpoint on Lamb's weaknesses or strengths because everything does revolve around w/ Lamb. However, the 8th draft pick trade scenario discussion belongs to the trade thread. They don't belong here in Jeremy Lamb's thread.

[MEDIC]

Medic, I don't mean to act like a jacka$s but I was claimed by some to be one anyways, I don't mind guys come in and pinpoint on Lamb's weaknesses or strengths because everything does revolve around w/ Lamb. However, the 8th draft pick trade scenario discussion belongs to the trade thread. They don't belong here in Jeremy Lamb's thread.

It's all good, I was just about to post the same thing. Got off topic a little.

GO LAMB! He's by far the best prospect available at 8 if nobody drops. Other than PJ3, he seems to have the highest ceiling easily (size, skill, defensive potential). He just has a hell of a lot less bust potential than PJ3.

[Test of Wills]

I'm happy with Rivers or Lamb at this point.

They both possess talent and ability that this team lacks.

[TheToothFairy]

Lamb reminds of Terry Dehere(If anyone is old enough to remember him)

[team edward]

Lamb vs Rivers:

Lamb benched more, has a higher vertical, lower body fat, and quicker. Rivers has 20lbs on Lamb (200-180).

Statistically Jeremy scored more, had a higher fg% and ft% (81-65). Rivers got to line more and shot better from deep.

On the court: Lamb's critics call him too passive whereas Rivers critics say he's too selfish at times.

Defensively, Rivers has the potential to be a liability whereas Lamb's 7 foot-wingspan will give him the tools to be an excellent perimeter defender.

Physically and statistically Lamb looks better.

Lamb is a pothead and
Lacks the mental fortitude to put in the work necessary to succeed in the NBA.

[Waylon Mercy]

Just watched 3 UCONN games in the last few days on my PVR and am falling in love with
him all over again. Actually he was one of my favorite prospects all year but im actually
liking him even more watching him again a second time.

The lack of motor personality issues is a bunch of over blown hot garbage...

The games I seen Lamb was extremely vocal on defense always pointing out to teammates
where to be Lamb always ran 100% back on defense or up the court on offense I was actually
impressed with his motor and work ethic. I never seen him take a play off on defense always
being in a defensive stance and never taking dumb fouls.

Lambs BBALL IQ and feel for the game is outstanding which is sad that it gets ignored because
he doesn't have a killer instinct like Kobe or Wade or isn't the greatest public speaker in the world.

If Lamb plays with any other PG than Napier or Boatright were talking about a 21-22ppg scorer.

What makes Lamb such an efficient scorer is he lets the game come to him but there were
times he was getting frustrated with his PGs and demanded the ball for ISO's and scored.
He was actually a better shot creator and on the ball scorer than I remembered.

Out of all the guys I've been watching he really does make you go "oooohhh" and "aaahhhh"
at times. I think some of the negativity I've heard made me down play him a bit but
I really think he has All-Star potential and has everything you would want from a SG other
than get to the FT line frequently.

For all the Lamb fans that have cooled off or jumped ship because of his stupid over blown
Combine interview or stuff about being laid back don't get sucked into it hes is the real deal
you thought he was.

Theres a few good players in our range but I really have a hard time seeing the Raps passing
on Lamb especially if guys like Beal or Barnes don't miraculously fall.

DraftExpress and nbadraft.net and the other mocks know whats going on. Lamb is quite
frankly the best fit and best talent available at 8.

Props to Rivers and Lillard as well they are great talents and good fits as well and they're
making what should be a no brainer pick difficult. Either way im happy knowing the Raps
will be getting a good player in a couple of weeks unless Colangelo does something crazy.

[OAKLEY_2]

unless Colangelo does something crazy.

Like trade the pick for Evans.

[wanker]

unless Colangelo does something crazy.

Like trade the pick for [Reggie] Evans.

[StMikes31]

While Lamb is not #1 on my list anymore, when I think of drafting him, I keep remembering Casey and BC talk about getting 'shooters' saying they are born in this league and hard to get. Lamb addresses this better then Waiters, Rivers.

[MEDIC]

Just watched 3 UCONN games in the last few days on my PVR and am falling in love with
him all over again. Actually he was one of my favorite prospects all year but im actually
liking him even more watching him again a second time.

Great post (including the parts that I cut out).

This is exactly the way I feel as well. Whenever I start to question the Lamb selection (based on some of the crap that I read on here), I go back & watch some game tape. Every time I do, the guy draws me back in.

He just has a smoothness to his game that nobody else has. He can easily shoot over defenders because of his long arms & good vert. He is an excellent ball handler. Very good athlete. Still very young.

The guy reminds me of Rudy Gay when Gay came into the league, except Lamb is already much more skilled. His drive was questioned, but I think he was just a shy/ reserved kid. You get this kid in the weight room & build on his game, his confidence will soar & you could easily have an allstar on your hands by the time he is 25. Plus, his body will naturally mature & he will naturally mature as a person.

Every time I start to doubt, I watch this youtube video:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH5G5vyn1pI[/youtube]

Colangelo is going to mess up big time if he chooses not to take this guy (& Beal/ Barnes are off the board). Like Stefanski said......regardless of personality, you can't ignore talent. If the kid has talent/ skill, that has to be the number one deciding factor.

[cdel00]

I want both Lamb and Lillard they are like PB and Jelly

They offer big upgrades on both ends of the court for us

Both are long and athletic, both can hit jumpers both can break down their defenders

Just draft both of them an build off the 3 rookie core. Those 3 give us a complimentary trio who together will be very successful.

[DarrylFlicking]

Lamb reminds of Terry Dehere(If anyone is old enough to remember him)

A little bit, eh? Physically, Lamb is taller, with huge wings, and more PO-tential, but I see the comparison.

Good 'ol PJ leading one of the best college teams in the country back then:
Luther Wright
Adrian Griffin
John Leahy
Danny Hurley

[Crazy-Canuck]

People are overblowing his facial expressions and assuming he has no motor or lacks fire.

If it were up to you guys, players like Brad Daugherty and Tim Duncan wouldnt get drafted first overall.

[MEDIC]

People are overblowing his facial expressions and assuming he has no motor or lacks fire.

If it were up to you guys, players like Brad Daugherty and Tim Duncan wouldnt get drafted first overall.

How many people remember T-Mac his first 2 years in the league? The guy was as shy as they come & you had to check for a pulse to make sure he was alive. Eventually he matured into a man. Some kids take a little longer. Especially the scrawny ones that have yet to grow into their bodies.

You think Lamb's personaility is dull? T-Mac was much, much worse.

Don't forget.........up until 2 weeks ago, Lamb was still only 19.....

[Crazy-Canuck]

Lamb is still my no.1 choice on the board, even ahead of Beal and Barnes.

[JamesNaismith]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH5G5vyn1pI[/youtube]

Colangelo is going to mess up big time if he chooses not to take this guy (& Beal/ Barnes are off the board). Like Stefanski said......regardless of personality, you can't ignore talent. If the kid has talent/ skill, that has to be the number one deciding factor.

The future of our franchise paused @ around 18 seconds.

[CarterDUnk16]

I hope all this negativity towards Lamb is a smokescreen. There's just too much potential there. I'm sure D.Casey will be able to push this kid. I would still be happy with Lillard. I'm warming up to Rivers but i rather not have an undersized SG. His workout results weren't spectacular either.