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Trading the #2 pick - dicussion (merged)

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Trade pick for players, trade for picks or keep it?

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Re: Trading the #2 pick - dicussion (merged) 

Post#441 » by captaincrunk » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:27 pm

jr lucosa wrote:
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jr lucosa wrote:Hence the protection on the picks.

But then why would we want it?


Because you can have our whole roster? lol.

We want to rebuild. Our front office wants the 8th seed. We're hoping they can luck into a terribly good or bad move, but either way we need to gut our roster. Drummond is raw it's not like he's going to be putting up 20/14 as a rookie.

In this scenario we would obviously be tanking as we'd be giving up most of our players that equal wins in order to move up for a brighter future.

Maybe you're FO doesn't think a star is available at #2 and would take 5 quality players over 1 :dontknow:

I can dream. :D

Yeah but 5 quality players... a protected pick... sounds like trading places.
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Re: Trading the #2 pick - dicussion (merged) 

Post#442 » by jr lucosa » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:38 pm

I'm not disagreeing.

If you guys are dead set on trading #2, It would depend what kind of potential you see in Brandon Jennings, Tobias Harris, Larry Sanders and possible mid lotto picks the next year or so in comparison to what other teams are offering.
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Post#443 » by captaincrunk » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:50 pm

I just can't see it happening. We'd be better off keeping it or trading it to other teams that aren't the bucks right now. Sorry.

But i'd take Royce White with your #12 pick.
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Post#444 » by jr lucosa » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:54 pm

captaincrunk wrote:I just can't see it happening. We'd be better off keeping it or trading it to other teams that aren't the bucks right now. Sorry.

But i'd take Royce White with your #12 pick.


No problem. It's unrealistic but I can pray.

I like Royce, but feel we could trade down and grab him in the 20's.

Apparently we really want a Center, since thats the new position of need (trading Bogut for a scrub combo guard will do that eh?) and a tall SG, since Monta can't defend ****.
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Post#445 » by captaincrunk » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:57 pm

I don't think Royce makes it to 20. I hope he somehow makes it to 31, obviously, but it doesn't seem plausible
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Post#446 » by HornetJail » Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:21 pm

I think Royce's stock is going skyrocket pretty soon. If he gets selected in the lottery over someone like Sullinger, I will not be surprised. Royce actually fits well on your roster too.
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Post#447 » by James Gatz » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:45 am

Warriors Trade: Richard Jefferson + #7 + Dorrel Wright
Warriors Get: Andre Iguadola + 76ers future 2nd



Bobcats Trade: #2
Bobcats Get: #7 + #15 + Dorrel Wright


76ers Trade Andre Iguadola +Future Second
76ers Get: #2 + RIchard Jefferson
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Post#448 » by captaincrunk » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:50 am

James Gatz wrote:Warriors Trade: Richard Jefferson + #7 + Dorrel Wright
Warriors Get: Andre Iguadola + 76ers future 2nd



Bobcats Trade: #2
Bobcats Get: #7 + #15 + Dorrel Wright


76ers Trade Andre Iguadola +Future Second
76ers Get: #2 + RIchard Jefferson



If I thought drummond would last to 7 i would

drummond + Royce White what what?
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Post#449 » by HornetJail » Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:05 am

We should try shopping Kemba + 31 for a mid 1st round pick. Philly might bite they'll need a replacement for Lou Williams. I think Kemba can be that guy. They have the 15th pick. We could pick White, Moultrie, Harkless... seriously I would be happy if we could just keep Biz and Hendo and then trade everyone for like five mid-1st round picks, suck next year get a top pick and then have an amazing core for the future. I have my eyes set on nabbing a 10-20 pick. My favorite players from this draft are Drummond and MKG and then like eight other people in the 8-20 range.
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Post#450 » by captaincrunk » Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:06 am

inb4 stun says "but kemba was a 9th overall pick!"
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Post#451 » by JMAC3 » Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:56 am

Why trade Kemba for the 15th pick if it will just create a hole at the pg position?????

I think Kemba can be a go to scorer on our team... I cant say that for the guys you mentioned.

The only way I would do this deal is if we see Austin Rivers as a point guard and he was available at 15th.

I guess we could always sign DJ back, but why not just sign a decent free agent and keep Kemba and let him develop.
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Post#452 » by TheKingofSting » Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:06 am

CHA_77_Bobcats wrote:We should try shopping Kemba + 31 for a mid 1st round pick. Philly might bite they'll need a replacement for Lou Williams. I think Kemba can be that guy. They have the 15th pick. We could pick White, Moultrie, Harkless... seriously I would be happy if we could just keep Biz and Hendo and then trade everyone for like five mid-1st round picks, suck next year get a top pick and then have an amazing core for the future. I have my eyes set on nabbing a 10-20 pick. My favorite players from this draft are Drummond and MKG and then like eight other people in the 8-20 range.


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Re: Trading the #2 pick - dicussion (merged) 

Post#453 » by BigSlam » Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:32 pm

CHA_77_Bobcats wrote:I think Royce's stock is going skyrocket pretty soon. If he gets selected in the lottery over someone like Sullinger, I will not be surprised. Royce actually fits well on your roster too.

Ya, but you think that Sullinger might go undrafted - which is crazy talk!
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Re: Trading the #2 pick - dicussion (merged) 

Post#454 » by HornetJail » Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:55 pm

Slam, It's a joke. I don't really think Sullinger is going undrafted. He's top 15 pick, but the team that gets him is going to be disappointed.

K2H: We aren't going to be able to get full value on Hendo and I think Hendo has a higher ceiling than Kemba.

Losing Kemba doesn't mean we're left without a PG. I'd happily pay DJ $6M a year to be our point guard for the next couple years. He's not getting offers much bigger than that.
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Post#455 » by Battery » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:42 pm

jr lucosa wrote:
captaincrunk wrote:
jr lucosa wrote:Yeah that's sort of what I was thinking. Jennings/Moute/Harris/Sanders/Udoh/Dunleavy are our positive assets. Monta Ellis too if you've never watched him closely ;)

I just don't see a ton there for you guys.

What about 12/Tobias Harris/Future 1st? Any interest in Larry Sanders?

We'd essentially have to rob your roster and it wouldn't be worth it to the Bucks in the long run


I'd be down for some robbery. We need to move out of the 9th seed hell somehow. Anything other than our current road is better for the Bucks in the long run.

Some trades we've brought up on our board...

Jennings/Moute/#12/Future 1st protected for #2

Ellis/Moute/#12/ for #2 and Tyrus Thomas

3-way here..
Bobcats get: Gay and Bucks 2013 1st
Bucks get: #2 and Thomas
Grizzles get: Ellis and Luc

Most of us would give you about anything/everything from our roster to get the chance to shoot for Drummond's ceiling.



Please do not offer us Jennings. :x
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Post#456 » by Special-K » Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:52 pm

David Lee and #7 for #2 and any contracts you want to hit us with?
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Post#457 » by HornetJail » Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:54 pm

How long is his contract, and how much do we have to pay him?
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Post#458 » by fatlever » Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:21 pm

CHA_77_Bobcats wrote:How long is his contract, and how much do we have to pay him?


his contract is quite massive
4 years left and about 57 million left
12.7, 13.8, 15, 15.4

lee would actually fit well with biz both offensively and defensively and if we hire snyder, lee would be great big man in the pick and roll. but man, that contract is ridiculous.

obviously tyrus would have to go back to golden state and i'd probably also ask that matt carroll goes back as well.

#2 + tyrus + carroll for #7 + lee

even then, i'd still probably say no.
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Post#459 » by ohara » Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:27 pm

Fatlever, I'd have to say YES to that deal. I think Lee and Biyombo would be a great front line, and we can get a solid player at #7. Shedding TT and Carroll makes that trade very enticing to me.
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Post#460 » by Special-K » Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:31 pm

Not even sure if GSW management would do it, but I like the idea of TRob next to Bogut. Lee is a solid player, just overpaid.
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