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Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVI: Offseason Edition)

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVI: Offseason Edition 

Post#781 » by glennathan » Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:22 am

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No offer extended over weekend in Orlando GM search, sources tell Y! Sports. Decision expected by mid-week, if not sooner.




Well yeah, of course there was no offer over the weekend. Alex and Bob always get together for a sleepover on Saturday and watch Snick.


Snick? I thought they watched Snick during the week and played paddle on the weekends??
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVI: Offseason Edition 

Post#782 » by Bensational » Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:07 pm

VGOSWAMI wrote:Rob Hennigan piece: http://m.golocalworcester.com/209947/sh ... d9d5e05c4/
Those looking for a reason other than pure Heat hate to root for Oklahoma City in the NBA Finals can cheer for a Worcesterite on the Thunder staff.

Rob Hennigan, a Worcester native and former prep star at St. John's in Shrewsbury, is an Assistant General Manager and Director of Player Personnel with the Oklahoma City Thunder. The Thunder open the NBA Finals tonight at home against the Miami Heat at 9 pm. Prior to his NBA career, Hennigan helped the St. John's basketball team become the first Central Mass squad to win a state championship in 27 years, and starred at Emerson College.

While at St. John's, Hennigan played under legendary coach Bob Foley. It was there that Hennigan says he first developed an appreciation for the strategic and cerebral elements of the game.

"Having been fortunate enough to play for Coach Foley, I learned how to see and process the game," Hennigan said. "He instilled an 'old-school' toughness in his players, and his ability to communicate messages to everyone still helps me to this day."

Foley is the first of several men Hennigan described as "pure basketball minds" that helped him develop as a talent evaluator. While Hennigan's job is now to critique the games of other players, Foley says his former star showed signs of a great understanding of the game during his playing days.

"He was our best defensive player, and it is because he was the best player I ever coached at avoiding a screen and staying with his man," Foley said. "He always showed a head for the game, and they don't come any better, as a player or a kid, than Rob Hennigan."

Hennigan went on to star at Emerson, though he claims he was a "one-trick pony" jump shooter. While he may have only had one trick, he did it very well. In fact, he did it better than any Emerson player ever had, graduating as the program's all-time leading scorer.

"I learned a ton under Coach Foley, and Emerson was sort of the sequel to that," Hennigan said. "Coach Hank Smith believed in playing unselfishly and he was just a great competitor and basketball mind."

Hennigan broke into the league as an intern with the San Antonio Spurs in 2004, and says getting his big break had less to do with basketball, and more to do with his attitude and values.

"It's kind of funny, because (the interview process with San Antonio) has very little to do with basketball, actually," Hennigan said. "Guys like coach (Gregg) Popovich, they were more concerned with your values and work ethic. The culture in San Antonio has everything to do with finding good people."

Hennigan won two NBA Championships with the Spurs, the first as one of the team's Basketball Operations Assistants in 2005, and another as the Director of Basketball Operations in 2007. Foley still remembers Hennigan sending him a package of championship memorabilia after Hennigan won his first title with the Spurs.

Then, in 2008, Hennigan accepted a job as the Thunder's Director of College/International Player Personnel. The decision was not unexpected, as former Spurs Assistant GM and fellow Emerson grad Sam Presti was named Oklahoma City's GM the year prior. Presti would bring several former San Antonio assistants to Oklahoma City over the next few years, and Hennigan says he had mixed emotions about his current club's Western Conference Finals victory over San Antonio last week.

"I'll admit it was a little bit bittersweet," Hennigan said. "Obviously, we wanted to win, that's the competitive nature of the business we're in. But just knowing that one of us had to lose was tough because I have so much respect for the way that organization is run. Everything they do is first-class."

Hennigan describes the way Oklahoma City is run as similar to San Antonio, but not a "carbon copy" in terms of team building. Hennigan is now in his second year as Oklahoma City's Director of Player Personnel, and is responsible for overseeing the clubs day-to-day activities, as well as preparing the team for the draft and free agency. His job naturally involves a great deal of travel, and Hennigan says he is on the road most of the year either with the team or scouting players.

Still, he comes back to Worcester as often as he can.

"I try to schedule some recruiting trips that allow me to come home," Hennigan said with a chuckle. "My wife and I try to come back two or three times a year and see everybody. The world of scouting and our player personnel department is really a year round deal, but things do slow down a little bit in August. So, hopefully, I will be out there soon."

Hennigan is widely viewed as one of the fastest rising young executives in the NBA. Rumors have been floating around in the last week linking him to the Orlando Magic's General Manager position. Even his old coach was asking about it.

"Did he get that Orlando job?" Foley asked. "When you look at the Thunder, you see a well-built team. I was never a big fan of what the 'Big Three' did in Miami. Rob and the Thunder have done it the right way by building through the draft and making smart moves. They've done a good job of getting the right parts together and creating a great team. You can't just have five all stars or scorers out there. It's finding that balance."

As for Hennigan, he says he does have ambitions of being a General Manager someday, but is in no hurry.

"I think in a perfect world, I would love to have the chance to manage a team," Hennigan said. "But I'm in such a special place here with the Thunder. I really love it here, and just feel so blessed to work with the people I work with. So, it doesn't have to happen right now."


thanks for sharing, was a great read. i like the idea of anyone from San Antonio bringing that sort of culture to Orlando, and Hennigan has obviously been a part of that within OKC. Hennigan or Lindsey sound very exciting and promising. they've got nothing to show for the hype apart from what they've been a part of before, but i would take that over what Bower has shown he's done/been a part of before. as Martins said, and as Dwight said first, we need to bring a championship culture to this team. i could totally see Dwight getting in line behind a GM and franchise who could inspire the kind of team mentality that those franchises have. he seems to be a very persuadable guy, and whilst that's probably a negative in most senses, we may as well try to find the silver lining in it.

also, does anyone else feel that someone coming from SAS/OKC would have a hard time dealing JJ? he seems to be the model player for someone from one of those franchises. may actually make him a less likely candidate to be moved.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVI: Offseason Edition 

Post#783 » by Def Swami » Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:21 pm

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No offer extended over weekend in Orlando GM search, sources tell Y! Sports. Decision expected by mid-week, if not sooner.




Well yeah, of course there was no offer over the weekend. Alex and Bob always get together for a sleepover on Saturday and watch Snick.

Mid-week?! :banghead:
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVI: Offseason Edition 

Post#784 » by Bensational » Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:29 pm

these finals have really revolved around the scoring of just a few guys. 75% of the Heat's offensive attempts was from the big 3, with 30% coming from each of LBJ and Wade, and 15% coming from Bosh. 60% of the Thunder's offense came from their big 3. 25% to each of Durant and Westbrook, and 10% to Harden.

that's pretty much how its been during this series so far, give or take a few percentages. it's really given me a stronger appreciation for Monta. this team needs someone who can take control of 30% of our offense. with defenses worrying about Dwight and one other bonafide scorer, it's guaranteed to open the door for other players to step up and feed off that.

so, in short... i've turned the corner and i'm now very pro Monta. well, moreso than many of the other options that may be available to us.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVI: Offseason Edition 

Post#785 » by Def Swami » Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:43 pm

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I think it's hogwash, but we'll see in a week.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVI: Offseason Edition 

Post#786 » by Blue_and_Whte » Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:07 pm

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Bucks to start contract negotiations with Brandon Jennings on July 1st despite the drama http://dlvr.it/1kWhKv

No way they keep both Jennings and Ellis. If they extend Jennings, they've got to be trading Monta. JJ/Ryan/19th

Please for the love of all that is pure and holy make this deal happen.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVI: Offseason Edition 

Post#787 » by magic04life » Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:10 pm

I think the Bulls will trade Deng to New Orleans for the 10th pick.

That would be a good trade forboth teams if the Bulls want to get in the lottery in exchange for Deng.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVI: Offseason Edition 

Post#788 » by trebone » Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:20 pm

But Deng is just owed so much money.

Also I would rather move Ryan/JRich/19 for monta if thats at all possible, JJ is great off the bench and I think he and Monta could play very well together with the penetrate and kick outs.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVI: Offseason Edition 

Post#789 » by Nyce_1 » Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:25 pm

Bulls have a lost season next year, so why not trade for a promising rookie to get him good experience? Cheaper and more potential than Deng. That'll def help with cap limitations, if true.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVI: Offseason Edition 

Post#790 » by Blue_and_Whte » Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:46 pm

Bensational wrote:these finals have really revolved around the scoring of just a few guys. 75% of the Heat's offensive attempts was from the big 3, with 30% coming from each of LBJ and Wade, and 15% coming from Bosh. 60% of the Thunder's offense came from their big 3. 25% to each of Durant and Westbrook, and 10% to Harden.

that's pretty much how its been during this series so far, give or take a few percentages. it's really given me a stronger appreciation for Monta. this team needs someone who can take control of 30% of our offense. with defenses worrying about Dwight and one other bonafide scorer, it's guaranteed to open the door for other players to step up and feed off that.

so, in short... i've turned the corner and i'm now very pro Monta. well, moreso than many of the other options that may be available to us.

Great post ben. I think we've agreed on a number of occasions that the offense needed to be consolidated to a couple maybe three players. To add to your point about what percentage of scoring each of the listed players are responsible for, todays game is dominated by wing players My reasons for wanting monta is BECAUSE the ball can be given to him and he can take over a game.

The lack of a creator on the perimeter has been evident for a long time. This team takes glorified role players and tries to get all star quality play out of them. Oh but they have great PERS! SMH. I would absolutely love Anderson and jj on the team with players like Dwight and monta but the reality is that we probablly need to move them in order to get better as they're our most valuable assets.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVI: Offseason Edition 

Post#791 » by eyriq » Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:09 pm

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Bucks to start contract negotiations with Brandon Jennings on July 1st despite the drama http://dlvr.it/1kWhKv

No way they keep both Jennings and Ellis. If they extend Jennings, they've got to be trading Monta. JJ/Ryan/19th

Please for the love of all that is pure and holy make this deal happen.


Worst trade proposal I've ever seen in the history of histories.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVI: Offseason Edition 

Post#792 » by PeePee la Fritz » Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:14 pm

On a side note, Dwane Wade has become the biggest flopper/complainer in basketball. I used to love watching that guy play, now all he does is complain and scream anytime someone breaths on him. Its become obnoxious IMO.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVI: Offseason Edition 

Post#793 » by OrlChamps2030 » Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:21 pm

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Worst trade proposal I've ever seen in the history of histories.


Yeah, not sure if the Bucks want to swap out one soft stretch 4 who can't create his own shot (Ilyasova) for another soft stretch 4 who cannot create his own shot.
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Post#794 » by MagicTownBaller » Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:37 pm

I had a dream last night that I went to RealGM.com and the biggest story on the wiretap was "Orlando hires Sam Vincent as their GM"

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Post#795 » by BadMofoPimp » Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:58 pm

Yep, Bucks could do much better.
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Post#796 » by eyriq » Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:15 pm

http://hoopshype.com/free_agent_rankings.htm

Hoopshype has their Free Agent rankings up.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVI: Offseason Edition 

Post#797 » by Jiwol » Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:19 pm

Wait, whut?! Ryno is not on the 1st place and yet you post this list? The world is coming to an end. On a serious note - this FA class is quite decent in contrary to what is being said.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVI: Offseason Edition 

Post#798 » by NickAnderson » Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:22 pm

Anderson had an excellent season at the right time. He is still a little overrated, but definitely gets it done from deep. Not likely to repeat what he did last season.


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Post#799 » by eyriq » Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:25 pm

NickAnderson wrote:
Anderson had an excellent season at the right time. He is still a little overrated, but definitely gets it done from deep. Not likely to repeat what he did last season.


HAHA!!!


We certainly know that isn't the case on this board! ;)
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Post#800 » by Nolimit1211 » Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:28 pm

eyriq wrote:
NickAnderson wrote:
Anderson had an excellent season at the right time. He is still a little overrated, but definitely gets it done from deep. Not likely to repeat what he did last season.


HAHA!!!


We certainly know that isn't the case on this board! ;)

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