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Absolutely not.
We've already got a 6'8 fat guy, don't need another.
We've already got a 6'8 fat guy, don't need another.
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Cammo101 wrote:AGNT190 wrote:So Espn is reporting that Jared sulliger was red flagged due to back issues and that some teams physicians are telling them not to draft him. My question would be, if he falls out of the lottery and is still available at 19 should the magic take a chance on him??
I absolutely would.
Same here Sullinger is an absolute beast and although the back issue is a concern, you have to take that chance at 19. He has everything you want from the power forward position (post moves, mid range, rebounding, and some defense). I know we need a point and some wing help but Sullinger is just to good of a player to pass up on.
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PerryJonesIII wrote:Cammo101 wrote:AGNT190 wrote:So Espn is reporting that Jared sulliger was red flagged due to back issues and that some teams physicians are telling them not to draft him. My question would be, if he falls out of the lottery and is still available at 19 should the magic take a chance on him??
I absolutely would.
Same here Sullinger is an absolute beast and although the back issue is a concern, you have to take that chance at 19. He has everything you want from the power forward position (post moves, mid range, rebounding, and some defense). I know we need a point and some wing help but Sullinger is just to good of a player to pass up on.
Exactly. That is how you get lotto talent at #19. By being smart enough to grab the guy falling for a dumb reason. Now if it comes out that his back is completely shot, then maybe I change my mind. But, as of now I'd grab him in a heart beat.
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No need to get Sullinger if we can't get rid of Baby....basically the same player imho...why have two big baby's? one is enough
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sullinger=big baby
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ChildishGambino wrote:No need to get Sullinger if we can't get rid of Baby....basically the same player imho...why have two big baby's? one is enough
Jared Sullinger has more potential and at this point in their careers is way way better then Baby was. I also say Jared Sullinger is a little more like Z-Bo then Baby and as of right now I believe Sullinger has better most moves and won't continue to jack the mid-range.
I've also seen that Jeremy Lamb is throwing up some red flags with his shoulder.
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Hollinger's draft rater predicts PERs and overall effectiveness/steals/busts, and does a pretty good job of it actually the past couple seasons. Here's an excerpt:
"The other wing everybody is sleeping on is Quincy Miller of Baylor, who put up a strong mark despite coming off an ACL injury. He has more questions marks because of the knee and his bony build, but he is long and can score. The stories of him slipping have me baffled, because he rates as a top-10 pick."
Miller is rated 6th for Hollinger's but 20-35 in other mocks. Im still on the Miller bandwagon! This is the guy to play some SF minutes and maybe be a huge steal of the draft. The draft rater was also high on Doron Lamb, the Lamb player who is around 30 and not lottery 10. He says Doron rated very much like Jeremy and could be a Courtney Lee type. These two parts me scream in my mind, Miller at 19 or trade higher for him, and Doron at a bought 32 like Harper was last year. Grab Machado, Taylor later in the second if possible and that plugs every roster hole with youth and upside.
"The other wing everybody is sleeping on is Quincy Miller of Baylor, who put up a strong mark despite coming off an ACL injury. He has more questions marks because of the knee and his bony build, but he is long and can score. The stories of him slipping have me baffled, because he rates as a top-10 pick."
Miller is rated 6th for Hollinger's but 20-35 in other mocks. Im still on the Miller bandwagon! This is the guy to play some SF minutes and maybe be a huge steal of the draft. The draft rater was also high on Doron Lamb, the Lamb player who is around 30 and not lottery 10. He says Doron rated very much like Jeremy and could be a Courtney Lee type. These two parts me scream in my mind, Miller at 19 or trade higher for him, and Doron at a bought 32 like Harper was last year. Grab Machado, Taylor later in the second if possible and that plugs every roster hole with youth and upside.
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At 19, I'd still go Marshall/Teague and at 49, I'd go with any of Robert Sacare/Henry Sims/Kevin Murphy/Darius Miller
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jernigan wrote:This Howard is most likely gone nonsense is just pessimistic thinking. Relaaaax....Dwight want's to be here, he just needs a solid GM and coach he feels he can mesh with. A solid number 2 would be nice too obviously.
Dwight wants to be here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Then why is his ass still sitting out in L.A.? He DOES NOT want to be here and he WILL not be here after at least the trade deadline of this season. Geez, what else has to happen for some people to get beyond their denial phase?
THAT'LL BE THE DAY!
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When will people wake up? Dwight doesn't know if he wants to leave. That doesn't mean he doesn't want to stay. He wants to see what the team does with their GM, HC and the team's new vision.
You can't build an argument that he wants to leave because he hasn't signed an extension. Things are very much in the air. Whether he wants to leave or not is uncertain even to him! Stop acting like you know he wants to leave. If he wanted to leave, he could've been gone by now. He'd be joining Deron in NJ RIGHT NOW! He had the power to do that and he decided to opt in to the final year of his deal instead!!!! His heart is in Orlando and he will give them every chance.
You can't build an argument that he wants to leave because he hasn't signed an extension. Things are very much in the air. Whether he wants to leave or not is uncertain even to him! Stop acting like you know he wants to leave. If he wanted to leave, he could've been gone by now. He'd be joining Deron in NJ RIGHT NOW! He had the power to do that and he decided to opt in to the final year of his deal instead!!!! His heart is in Orlando and he will give them every chance.
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ESPN mock draft 8.0 is out, anyone with insider can check who they have the Magic taking ?
ORLANDO MAGIC
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Why are we talking about Dwight Howard's bitch ass in the 2012 Draft Thread?
A smart coach once said, "Potential just means you're not good enough yet." Playing on potential is like living on air: It's essential, but if thats all you have, you're eventually going to starve.
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I think there needs to be more talk about Fab Melo.
BYE BYE 4 OUT, 1 IN... HELLO TWIN TOWERS!!!
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More interior defense. More rebounding. Good passer. Nice shooting touch. Effective without the ball. Team player. Intimidating duo if on the court the same time as Dwight, but also gives us sorely needed depth behind him too.
BYE BYE 4 OUT, 1 IN... HELLO TWIN TOWERS!!!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKyP3Por3xI[/youtube]
More interior defense. More rebounding. Good passer. Nice shooting touch. Effective without the ball. Team player. Intimidating duo if on the court the same time as Dwight, but also gives us sorely needed depth behind him too.
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Ahmadab wrote:ESPN mock draft 8.0 is out, anyone with insider can check who they have the Magic taking ?
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T-Cat wrote:Ahmadab wrote:ESPN mock draft 8.0 is out, anyone with insider can check who they have the Magic taking ?
Perry Jones III
If we took him, I'd make him play SF. He was out of position at Baylor. He didn't want to be a C. He wants to play the perimeter. I think his length would be great against the likes of Lebron, Melo, Pierce and other SFs in the East.
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T-Cat wrote:Ahmadab wrote:ESPN mock draft 8.0 is out, anyone with insider can check who they have the Magic taking ?
Perry Jones III
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NOH: PF Anthony Davis
CHA: PF Thomas Robinson
WAS: SF Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
CLE: SG Bradley Beal
SAC: SF Harrison Barnes
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POR: C Andre Drummond
GSW: SG Dion Waiters
TOR: PG Damian Lillard
DET: PF John Henson
NOH: G Austin Rivers
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POR: SG Jeremy Lamb
MIL: C Myers Leonard
PHO: GF Terrence Ross
HOU: C Tyler Zeller
PHI: F Terrence Jones
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HOU:FC Arnette Moultrie
DAL: PG Kendall Marshall
MIN: C Fab Melo
ORL: PF Perry Jones III
DEN: FC Jared Sullinger
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BOS: PF Andrew Nicholson
BOS: SF Moe Harkless
ATL: F Royce White
CLE: SF Quincy Miller
MEM: G Tony Wroten Jr.
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IND: PG Marquis Teague
MIA: F Draymond Green
OKC: SG Evan Fournier
CHI: SG John Jenkins
GSW: SF Jeff Taylor
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Nbadraft.net updated today....got us taking Sullinger at 19....wonder why he fell?
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ChildishGambino wrote:Nbadraft.net updated today....got us taking Sullinger at 19....wonder why he fell?
Alledgedly he has been Medically red flagged.
A smart coach once said, "Potential just means you're not good enough yet." Playing on potential is like living on air: It's essential, but if thats all you have, you're eventually going to starve.
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ChildishGambino wrote:Nbadraft.net updated today....got us taking Sullinger at 19....wonder why he fell?
Concerns about his back
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Beal & Miller to Cle with Kyrie & Thompson is one hell of a young 1234 & could be fun to watch.









