Free agency : Point gaurds

phrizzo · Post #41 » by **phrizzo** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:40 pm

CAE15 wrote:Not saying I'm for lin by any means but all we have to do is beat new yorks offer of 5 million. We could do worse and it would be good to see a utah jazz all star every now and then.

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you can't beat that offer because that's the most he can make on a new contract

CAE15 · Post #42 » by **CAE15** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:18 pm

phrizzo wrote:
CAE15 wrote:Not saying I'm for lin by any means but all we have to do is beat new yorks offer of 5 million. We could do worse and it would be good to see a utah jazz all star every now and then.

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you can't beat that offer because that's the most he can make on a new contract

What? He has a prorated amount he can only make? Its not like a rookie contract. So could you please explain.

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meat tray · Post #43 » by **meat tray** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:40 pm

CAE15 wrote:
phrizzo wrote:
CAE15 wrote:Not saying I'm for lin by any means but all we have to do is beat new yorks offer of 5 million. We could do worse and it would be good to see a utah jazz all star every now and then.

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you can't beat that offer because that's the most he can make on a new contract

What? He has a prorated amount he can only make? Its not like a rookie contract. So could you please explain.

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It's the Gilbert Arenas rule. From Wikipedia:

Teams are limited from offering anything more than the average salary to a restricted free agent with two years or less experience.[9] A player's original team can use the Early Bird exception or their Mid-Level exception to re-sign the player.[4] This is named the "Gilbert Arenas Rule". In 2003, Gilbert Arenas signed a six-year, $60 million contract with the Washington Wizards after his original team, the Golden State Warriors, were unable to match the offer since they were over the salary cap.[10]

Post #44 » by **StocktonShorts** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:58 am

All Jazz fans should know this rule from the Wesley Matthews situation.

CAE15 · Post #45 » by **CAE15** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:13 pm

But lin isn't restricted. So it wouldn't apply to him. No?

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Post #46 » by **StocktonShorts** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:22 pm

CAE15 wrote:But lin isn't restricted. So it wouldn't apply to him. No?

He is a restricted free agent and the Knicks don't have early Bird rights on him, and he falls under the Gilbert Arenas rule, so the Knicks will have to use an exception to match an contract offer he gets.

eLo · Post #47 » by **eLo** » Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:42 pm

The59Sound wrote:I'd definitely prefer to keep Harris over either Farmar or Nelson.

Nelson is better shooter but Harris is definitely better pg, neither way there are some more interesting names on table like Mo Williams; Kyle Lowery we could try to get JJ barea as T'Wolves are so sold to Rubio.

All that late draft discussion is really interesting, Lillard is like poorer version of DWill, Marshal will definitely be a good pg at next stage, if there will be no chance to get such high draft picks maybe KoC will be able arrange some late 1 rd, so we could pick nba ready pg like Taylor or good prospect like Teague.

babyjax13 · Post #48 » by **babyjax13** » Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:00 am

eLo wrote:
The59Sound wrote:I'd definitely prefer to keep Harris over either Farmar or Nelson.
Nelson is better shooter but Harris is definitely better pg, neither way there are some more interesting names on table like Mo Williams; Kyle Lowery we could try to get JJ barea as T'Wolves are so sold to Rubio.

All that late draft discussion is really interesting, Lillard is like poorer version of DWill, Marshal will definitely be a good pg at next stage, if there will be no chance to get such high draft picks maybe KoC will be able arrange some late 1 rd, so we could pick nba ready pg like Taylor or good prospect like Teague.

Minnesota is an interesting thought. What about Luke Ridnour?

Jefff · Post #49 » by **Jefff** » Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:13 pm

after the arbitration, seems that NY has bird rights on Lin (same is for billups-LAC Hickson-POR , etc)

Jefff · Post #50 » by **Jefff** » Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:30 pm

Lin on our roster would've been great.... anyway, i don't see Utah spending a lot on a pg in the FA until we move Harris, or we slide him at the SG spot.

Last year the best passer was Tinsley, so i think we'll exercize the TO on him.

That means three pg on the roster, plus burks and Hayward that can handle the point (as for burks i'd explore tu use him more as a scoring point)