Hornets trade Ariza/Okafor for Lewis and #46??

Copperhead · Post #1 » by **Copperhead** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:20 pm

Jonathan Givony ‏@DraftExpress
NBA source tells me Emeka Okafor and Trevor Arizona have been traded to the Washington Wizards for Rashard Lewis and the #46 pick

Really? What??!! And Trevor Arizona??!! WHAT???!! :lol:

Copperhead · Post #2 » by **Copperhead** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:33 pm

Jonathan Givony ‏@DraftExpress
Rashard Lewis' 23.8 million dollar contract can be bought out for 13.7 million before July 1st. Trade saves New Orleans around 30 million?

Jonathan Givony ‏@DraftExpress
New Orleans now has unlimited cap space, in addition to the #1 pick, the #10 pick, and Eric Gordon. Not a bad time to be a Hornets fan

2poor · Post #3 » by **2poor** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:38 pm

har har, I knew Ariza was on his way out.

not a bad time to be a Hornets fan is right!

:party:

Mr Dew · Post #4 » by **Mr Dew** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:50 pm

Even before I knew about Lewis' buyout, I thought you guys won this deal... with the buyout, you absolutely crushed Washington. What were they thinking??? And they threw in a 2nd rounder for good measure!

Copperhead · Post #5 » by **Copperhead** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:53 pm

2poor wrote:har har, I knew Ariza was on his way out.

not a bad time to be a Hornets fan is right!

I really do think Ariza wants to be on the West Coast. Don't know how he's going to feel about being pushed even further away from the WC. But, oh well. :lol:

Copperhead · Post #6 » by **Copperhead** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:54 pm

Mr Dew wrote:Even before I knew about Lewis' buyout, I thought you guys won this deal... with the buyout, you absolutely crushed Washington. What were they thinking??? And they threw in a 2nd rounder for good measure!

That's what I'd like to know.

2poor · Post #7 » by **2poor** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:32 pm

Copperhead wrote:
2poor wrote:har har, I knew Ariza was on his way out.

not a bad time to be a Hornets fan is right!

I really do think Ariza wants to be on the West Coast. Don't know how he's going to feel about being pushed even further away from the WC. But, oh well.

probably. once they got Aminu in the deal for CP3, his days quickly became numbered.

Post #8 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:06 pm

Great, great deal for New Orleans. Yeah, it creates a massive hole that they'll need to fill with some veteran leadership, but clears a ton of cap space on guys you simply know aren't going to be Hornets for the long haul.

NinjaSheppard · Post #9 » by **NinjaSheppard** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:39 pm

The only thing that scares me about this is the possibility of us re-signing Kaman. I trust Demps with my life though

2poor · Post #10 » by **2poor** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:44 pm

makes the Deron rumors slightly plausible. I would laugh hysterically if Deron ended up being a Hornet after all the CP3/Deron comparisons.

Copperhead · Post #11 » by **Copperhead** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:25 pm

2poor wrote:makes the Deron rumors slightly plausible. I would laugh hysterically if Deron ended up being a Hornet after all the CP3/Deron comparisons.

I don't even know how I'd feel about that. I'd know that CP3 is still the better player though. I'd know that. I don't think that would change just because Deron would be a Hornet. And I'd probably spend a lot of time cringing expecting Deron to turn the ball over at the most crucial moment.

Copperhead · Post #12 » by **Copperhead** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:28 pm

Overall Grades:

Hornets: A+: They clear cap enough cap space to buy a small country and get rid of two long-term contracts that did nothing for them. Okafor and Davis would have been a great shot-blocking pair, but the Hornets now have room to match any and all offers for Eric Gordon in restricted free agency and still have room to take on another contract in order to acquire a pick. They are set to build the right way in New Orleans.

Washington Wizards: D-: Well, at least they added a lot of money in getting two marginal players that don't necessarily compliment John Wall in any way. Ernie Grunfeld just got an extension. Yup, this is the NBA.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-o ... l/19391129

2poor · Post #13 » by **2poor** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:57 pm

ha yeah I don't know that I necessarily want Deron either -- but it lends SOME credence to Broussard's Insider ESPN mumbojumbo.

the Hornets certainly got the better of the deal in financial terms, but at least the Wiz got 2 legit bodies for mister DNP. they were stuck with the $$ obligations anyways, may as well get some production out of it, right?

I say viva la dump 8-)

Copperhead · Post #14 » by **Copperhead** » Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:16 am

2poor wrote:ha yeah I don't know that I necessarily want Deron either -- but it lends SOME credence to Broussard's Insider ESPN mumbojumbo.

the Hornets certainly got the better of the deal in financial terms, but at least the Wiz got 2 legit bodies for mister DNP. they were stuck with the $$ obligations anyways, may as well get some production out of it, right?

I say viva la dump

I certainly don't care about lending Broussard any credence. :lol:

The guy is a lackey for most player agents that try to use the media as leverage.

jhern87 · Post #15 » by **jhern87** » Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:27 am

Wow.. I don't know how you guys did it but congratulations! Preparing for big moves down in N.O. ..

Lillard
Gordon
Aminu
Davis

Could be an awesome young core.. Looking forward to seeing you guys build your team.

Copperhead · Post #16 » by **Copperhead** » Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:58 am

jhern87 wrote:Wow.. I don't know how you guys did it but congratulations! Preparing for big moves down in N.O. ..

Lillard
Gordon
Aminu
Davis

Could be an awesome young core.. Looking forward to seeing you guys build your team.

You think the Hornets will select Lillard? I'll be so glad when draft night gets here to see what the Hornets do.

jhern87 · Post #17 » by **jhern87** » Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:10 am

Copperhead wrote:
jhern87 wrote:Wow.. I don't know how you guys did it but congratulations! Preparing for big moves down in N.O. ..

Lillard
Gordon
Aminu
Davis

Could be an awesome young core.. Looking forward to seeing you guys build your team.

You think the Hornets will select Lillard? I'll be so glad when draft night gets here to see what the Hornets do.

If he's still there, I feel they probably will.. Personally I'd rather have a PG like Marshall if I were taking Davis just because he'd be able to get him easy buckets and they would be a better fast-break team but I feel when drafting you should always go BPA, especially for a team like the Hornets that really just need as much talent as possible at this point.

Even if it's a guy like Dion Waiters that plays the same position as one of your young cornerstones players, always take who you think has the best chance of becoming the best player.. Even if he becomes a starting caliber player you'll always have the option of trading him.. Or if he's good enough, keeping him and trading Gordon (who is going to be on a much larger contract)..

Anyways.. If I were the FO.. BPA.. Period.

QuantumMacgyver · Post #18 » by **QuantumMacgyver** » Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:24 am

Congrats y'all! Jazz fan here and I sorely miss the days of D-Will v CP3! Just curious, with the rumors of N.O. moving the 10 pick and the Jazz dangling Millsap for a lotto pick, what are your thoughts on a Millsap for #10 plus player swap? Millsap is the definition of iron man and is the heart of the Jazz, but it may be time to move on. You'd love what he brings every single game! Even if he isn't filling the stat line, he always contributes. Great guy.

Copperhead · Post #19 » by **Copperhead** » Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:11 am

jhern87 wrote:
Copperhead wrote:
jhern87 wrote:Wow.. I don't know how you guys did it but congratulations! Preparing for big moves down in N.O. ..

Lillard
Gordon
Aminu
Davis

Could be an awesome young core.. Looking forward to seeing you guys build your team.

You think the Hornets will select Lillard? I'll be so glad when draft night gets here to see what the Hornets do.

If he's still there, I feel they probably will.. Personally I'd rather have a PG like Marshall if I were taking Davis just because he'd be able to get him easy buckets and they would be a better fast-break team but I feel when drafting you should always go BPA, especially for a team like the Hornets that really just need as much talent as possible at this point.

Even if it's a guy like Dion Waiters that plays the same position as one of your young cornerstones players, always take who you think has the best chance of becoming the best player.. Even if he becomes a starting caliber player you'll always have the option of trading him.. Or if he's good enough, keeping him and trading Gordon (who is going to be on a much larger contract)..

Anyways.. If I were the FO.. BPA.. Period.

Marshall comes in for a workout on Saturday. I'm curious to see how he'll do.

Copperhead · Post #20 » by **Copperhead** » Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:13 am

QuantumMacgyver wrote:Congrats y'all! Jazz fan here and I sorely miss the days of D-Will v CP3! Just curious, with the rumors of N.O. moving the 10 pick and the Jazz dangling Millsap for a lotto pick, what are your thoughts on a Millsap for #10 plus player swap? Millsap is the definition of iron man and is the heart of the Jazz, but it may be time to move on. You'd love what he brings every single game! Even if he isn't filling the stat line, he always contributes. Great guy.

I've always liked what Millsap brought to the Jazz. I kind of want them to keep the #10 pick though. What other player would you throw in with Millsap?

Word was that the Hornets wanted more for the #10 pick than taking on Ariza's or Okafor's contract. But now both of those players are gone and the Hornets still have the #10 pick. Just recently Demps said he hadn't received any serious offers for the #10 pick so unless he does between now and draft night, he's keeping the pick.