Millsap in trade discussions

[hoops4life]

If the Hornets are looking to trade Pick 10 for a young veteran, who are some of the potential targets?

Chad Ford: Darren Collison, Eric Bledsoe, Evan Turner I’ve heard a lot. Ditto for Paul Millsap of the Jazz. By the way, I’m told the Blazers are looking at the same group of players at 11 if they decide to trade the pick.

From Chad Ford, so...

http://www.tornbysports.com/millsap-tra ... s-surface/

The article (not Chad Ford), has the Jazz's most likely targets in that range as:

Best Draft Options for Jazz at no. 10 or no. 11
1.Damian Lillard
2.Kendall Marshall
3.Austin Rivers
4.Perry Jones III
5.Tyler Zeller

[UTJazzFan_Echo1]

Hearing that NO is keeping the #10 no matter what now that they made that Lewis deal.

[hoops4life]

I saw that. I still thought it would be an interesting topic, knowing that they are shopping Millsap for a lottery pick.

NO may be trying to drive the price of that #10 up.

[finnegan]

I assume that this was all speculation by Ford, and it doesn't mean that the Jazz were willing to do it?

[Inigo Montoya]

Thanks for the info, great post. It is dead this time of year without a first round pick. I'll take what I can get.

[UTJazzFan_Echo1]

There was the article that popped up saying that NO and Portland are both looking at Millsap with their picks that came out after the trade, but it seems like it's mainly driven from that Ford chat.

I'd probably be demanding the #6 pick from Portland though, not the #11.

[eLo]

Lilard would be cool addition to our lineup, but no way in exchange for Sap

[UTJazzFan_Echo1]

Lilard would be cool addition to our lineup, but no way in exchange for Sap

See, I just can't think like this when it comes to Millsap.

If he's not willing to come off the bench then he's going to walk for nothing in FA. So why not get someone like Lillard now while we still can, instead of getting 0 return on him later?

If Sap is willing to sign a reasonable extension AND agree's to come off the bench, then it's an easy decision to hold onto him... but you gotta have both. He can't be demanding big money and he can't be demanding a starting spot (that is unless we trade Al and need him to start alongside Favors for a season or two until Kanter develops). I'm just not sold on the idea that Sap is going to be willing to come off the bench. Everything he's done, said and wanted for the past 3 or 4 seasons has been about him being in the starting lineup. Period. Is he really just going to give-up on that idea now? I dunno... he just hasn't convinced me yet.

[Bullet]

I remember early this past season, Millsap said he's ok with an off the bench role if that's what it takes to win. Unfortunately, starting Favors for the first two games imploded on the Jazz so he got his starting role back.

It's a tough pill to swallow for Sap and I don't know how long he'll take coming off the bench positively, especially being commended for his efforts as a starter. But maybe his professionalism and team-first attitude gets the better of his itch to start.

It's all on Favors now, imo. He must convince everyone that he deserves to start.

[SoCalJazzFan]

The subject of wether Milsap would consider being a 6th man off the bench, a reduced starting role (such as splitting with Favors) or playing the 3 and 4 during games is really the crux of what the Jazz need to do (assuming they are keeping Big Al and view Favors purely as a PF).

However, if you were Milsap would you be willing to go to the bench in a year that is potentially setting you up for the biggest contract of your career? Sap has been a top tier PF in the league for two years now. He deserves starting position and time and will probably command between $9M-$11M per year contract, even under the new CBA. The JAzz can't afford to pay a bench player that kind of money with the upcoming contract extensions they'll be looking at. And, I don't blame Sap for not taking a lesser role and the lesser paycheck that would probably result from it.

Although I view Favors and Sap as complimentary (Favors plays within 7 feet of the basket and Sap 8-20 feet), and a potentially better combo than Favors/Jefferson from what I have seen, most likely it will be Sap that will be traded if not within the next week by the trade deadline, which I have to admit both saddens me and makes me nervous as I hope that the Favors/Al combo can deliver as hoped.

[blackham9258]

I know I will be in the minority when I say that I actually think that Favors and the Jazz would be better served with Al Jefferson/Favors... meaning Jefferson being the player we re-up after this year for a 2-4 season contract extension. (I would prefer to see a 2 year contract or 3 year at something around $9M per year... I am thinking the new CBA lowers non allstars value.. but again the Jazz will need scoring from somewhere and I think that will eventually be with al and burks as our main scorers while Favors/Hayward/and this years pick develop offensively)

I will not however be in the minority when I say that I think Paul actually has slightly more trade value because of his contract and defense and to a degree his future contract demands.

I agree with the general sentiment that we will keep one of these two after next season and since we aren't winning a championship next year... we should be looking at trading one of the two to get into this draft. I don't like any scenario for trading one of the two for the general players floated (like granger, iggy etc because they will be past their prime when our young core matures in 3-4 years and we are ready to compete.)

That said I think we need to offer Millsap and our Pick to get #5 if we are convinced one of the top 7 is going to be a player. My favorite unlikely scenario is sending Millsap and our pick top whatever protected to get the #5 and then draft whoever Portland covets so we can pick up #6 and #11.

That said... picking up a Lillard, Barnes, Gillchrist, Drummond, Robinson, or Beal by only giving up 1 season of 1 player is imperative. We don't need both picks next year... heck I would give up either pick Sacramento would want.. ours or GSW's. Getter Done!

[Reckless]

This is a terrible trade for the Utah Jazz. Why? We are giving up a excellent nba talent for a unknown college kid. For all we known this Lillard kid could be the next Ronnie Price. Dominating college level particularly **** conference level means diddly poo for NBA ability. For this reason alone it's a terrible idea. Only bottom feeding teams like New Jersey makes these deals, go join that teams fan club if you want to do terrible deals like this one.

[Maneesh]

I want it. I want it favors can play for jazz. We don't need this big guys. We need pg.

[blackham9258]

I understand your attachment to Millsap... If Jefferson could garner us more or the same thing fine...

I just disagree with the theory of keeping a player for 1 season when that player could garner us a future player of high value.

Leave it up to KOC to make the pick... whether it is Lillard, Barnes or any other player that he thinks is in the long term best interest of the team.

In a draft where Manu Ginobli went 58th... if their is a franchise changing talent or altering talent for our next 8-10 years... Would I give up 1 year of Millsap before he is gone anyway to get that...

YES!

[russnumber3]

This is a terrible trade for the Utah Jazz. Why? We are giving up a excellent nba talent for a unknown college kid. For all we known this Lillard kid could be the next Ronnie Price. Dominating college level particularly **** conference level means diddly poo for NBA ability. For this reason alone it's a terrible idea. Only bottom feeding teams like New Jersey makes these deals, go join that teams fan club if you want to do terrible deals like this one.

I really don't why u hate Price so bad. Price was an amazing college player and hasn't been great in the nba, but why do you wanna pretend like he is some sort of huge bust? He has largely over achieved in his career since he wasn't even drafted and was the rare Jazz player who had heart and spunk. Lillard is expected to be a lotto selection so I don't understand why you think this is an opportunity to slam Ronnie P. Very strange indeed.

[UTJazzFan_Echo1]

Devin Harris jersey's are on sale for 80% off and are on the same rack as Raja Bell's jersey.

Just saying...

[blackham9258]

The only similarity between Price and Lillard is that they both played for 2nd tier utah colleges. But Lillard is a to 10 pick and Price went undrafted.

Looking forward if Lillard turns into a poor mans westbrook (a scoring athletic pg) who can shoot better from distance than westbrook, but isn't as athletic... Will we look back and wish we had had that one last season with Millsap???

I think not.

If Lillard ends up being a player like Dragic/or Lowry... same thing.

[Jefff]

i'd prefer to keep Sap and trade Jefferson.... another solution could be stay put and just trade one of the above after the all star break for a rookie-sophomore