2012 Orland Magic NBA draft thread ...

[arkknight1988]

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this guy cracks me up. He is my first choice for pg. i only have perry jones above him for the 19th pick.

[The Effect]

I really dont get this waiters hype, i seriously dont get why hes rated so high, but either way, if he goes ahead of our pick, that means someone else will fall to us

And the closer it gets to the draft, the more excited im gettng that someone great is going to fall to us

Out of curiosity, who do you guys think have to potential to 'fall' to us that you'd go crazy for. Like for instance I 'expect' wroten, q. miller and teague to be there. I'd love for Marshall, P. Jones, or T. Jones to 'fall' to us.

Those are my top 3 choice too

And although they would be considered "fallers" id be happy with Quincy Miller or Teague too and think they will be great players. The reason they i would consider us lucky to get one of those 2 too is because in most years, those guys would be lottery picks and wouldnt be there at 18.

Also really like Royce White and see alot of anthony mason in him. If he can keep up with 3s at this level, i think he could be a real difference maker as a point forward
Wroten, meh not as big a fan. I mean he could be very good, but i just have a real big problem with his 16% 3pt shooting and his inability to even lift 185 once. I mean its obviously not as important as in football, but for him being a "big" point guard, that height doesnt mean much if he cant outmuscle his guy

[Noonskadoodle]

Sully looks to be in great shape.

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[Noonskadoodle]

Looks like Royce White may have a promise from the Celtics at 21 & 22. If so that will be a nice pickup for them.

[Noonskadoodle]

Summer League body?


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[Noonskadoodle]

Don't know if Teagues video has been posted yet.

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[Truth24]

What does everyone think about Draymond Green? I personally think if we can trade for a late first or if he slips to our pick in round two that he would be a great pick up. This guy is a straight leader and hustle player. He does everything on the court and is a great passer similar to Royce White but lesser handles. Check out his workout with the pacers.

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and a great interview.

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[Noonskadoodle]

After watching the Heat win it all tonight & knowing that Bron is gonna be around for awhile we do not have ONE person on our roster who could come even close to slowing him down. The more I think about it I think we should take Jeff Taylor at 19. The guy just has a Courtney Lee like feel to him & at 6'7" we can stick him on all the tough 3's in the league. Plus he is extremely capable of knocking down the 3 ball & is very athletic.

Then let's see if Rob can hit up some connections in OKC for that #28 pick & draft Wroten there.

Two young defensive minded players who could bring a spark to this team.

Round 1-Jeff Taylor & Tony Wroten & Round 2-Henry Sims

[arkknight1988]

can't wait to see who henny picks

[arkknight1988]

After watching the Heat win it all tonight & knowing that Bron is gonna be around for awhile we do not have ONE person on our roster who could come even close to slowing him down. The more I think about it I think we should take Jeff Taylor at 19. The guy just has a Courtney Lee like feel to him & at 6'7" we can stick him on all the tough 3's in the league. Plus he is extremely capable of knocking down the 3 ball & is very athletic.

Then let's see if Rob can hit up some connections in OKC for that #28 pick & draft Wroten there.

Two young defensive minded players who could bring a spark to this team.

Round 1-Jeff Taylor & Tony Wroten & Round 2-Henry Sims

jeff taylor isn't nearly strong enough to defend lebron. royce white would be a much better choice

[Noonskadoodle]

After watching the Heat win it all tonight & knowing that Bron is gonna be around for awhile we do not have ONE person on our roster who could come even close to slowing him down. The more I think about it I think we should take Jeff Taylor at 19. The guy just has a Courtney Lee like feel to him & at 6'7" we can stick him on all the tough 3's in the league. Plus he is extremely capable of knocking down the 3 ball & is very athletic.

Then let's see if Rob can hit up some connections in OKC for that #28 pick & draft Wroten there.

Two young defensive minded players who could bring a spark to this team.

Round 1-Jeff Taylor & Tony Wroten & Round 2-Henry Sims

jeff taylor isn't nearly strong enough to defend lebron. royce white would be a much better choice

What SF really is strong/fast enough to guard Bron? Answer is probably less than 1.

White probably does not have the foot speed for Lebron. I do like Whites game though.

Can't wait for the draft & at 19 we will have quite a few quality options to choose from

[Skin]

After watching the Heat win it all tonight & knowing that Bron is gonna be around for awhile we do not have ONE person on our roster who could come even close to slowing him down. The more I think about it I think we should take Jeff Taylor at 19. The guy just has a Courtney Lee like feel to him & at 6'7" we can stick him on all the tough 3's in the league. Plus he is extremely capable of knocking down the 3 ball & is very athletic.

Then let's see if Rob can hit up some connections in OKC for that #28 pick & draft Wroten there.

Two young defensive minded players who could bring a spark to this team.

Round 1-Jeff Taylor & Tony Wroten & Round 2-Henry Sims

No wing in this draft is gonna defend Lebron. That's why I keep saying, we NEED TO BEEF UP THE POST. We need 2 twin towers in the post who can clog the lane and make it tough for all these fools.. Lebron, Wade, Durant, Westbrook, Rose from driving straight to the cup. Not only do we make our defense tougher (cause we all can agree that Ryno and Big Baby are nobody's idea of defensive stoppers), but we increase our ability to make easier baskets with 2 big men who can make higher percentage shots inside... a much more effective means of scoring than shooting 3s.

More Post defense, Post scoring... I think that's the way to go.

[arkknight1988]

After watching the Heat win it all tonight & knowing that Bron is gonna be around for awhile we do not have ONE person on our roster who could come even close to slowing him down. The more I think about it I think we should take Jeff Taylor at 19. The guy just has a Courtney Lee like feel to him & at 6'7" we can stick him on all the tough 3's in the league. Plus he is extremely capable of knocking down the 3 ball & is very athletic.

Then let's see if Rob can hit up some connections in OKC for that #28 pick & draft Wroten there.

Two young defensive minded players who could bring a spark to this team.

Round 1-Jeff Taylor & Tony Wroten & Round 2-Henry Sims

No wing in this draft is gonna defend Lebron. That's why I keep saying, we NEED TO BEEF UP THE POST. We need 2 twin towers in the post who can clog the lane and make it tough for all these fools.. Lebron, Wade, Durant, Westbrook, Rose from driving straight to the cup. Not only do we make our defense tougher (cause we all can agree that Ryno and Big Baby are nobody's idea of defensive stoppers), but we increase our ability to make easier baskets with 2 big men who can make higher percentage shots inside... a much more effective means of scoring than shooting 3s.

More Post defense, Post scoring... I think that's the way to go.

i agree. we could add size and get younger on the wings. u think sullinger could help? not sure who else we could add down low

[Noonskadoodle]

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[Skin]

After watching the Heat win it all tonight & knowing that Bron is gonna be around for awhile we do not have ONE person on our roster who could come even close to slowing him down. The more I think about it I think we should take Jeff Taylor at 19. The guy just has a Courtney Lee like feel to him & at 6'7" we can stick him on all the tough 3's in the league. Plus he is extremely capable of knocking down the 3 ball & is very athletic.

Then let's see if Rob can hit up some connections in OKC for that #28 pick & draft Wroten there.

Two young defensive minded players who could bring a spark to this team.

Round 1-Jeff Taylor & Tony Wroten & Round 2-Henry Sims

No wing in this draft is gonna defend Lebron. That's why I keep saying, we NEED TO BEEF UP THE POST. We need 2 twin towers in the post who can clog the lane and make it tough for all these fools.. Lebron, Wade, Durant, Westbrook, Rose from driving straight to the cup. Not only do we make our defense tougher (cause we all can agree that Ryno and Big Baby are nobody's idea of defensive stoppers), but we increase our ability to make easier baskets with 2 big men who can make higher percentage shots inside... a much more effective means of scoring than shooting 3s.

More Post defense, Post scoring... I think that's the way to go.

i agree. we could add size and get younger on the wings. u think sullinger could help? not sure who else we could add down low

I think Sullinger is a good value choice, but I don't think he is the right kind of fit. I don't think you can simply make a pick based off whatever a players perceived "draft value" is. He has to be the right kind of player, right kind of person, right kind of fit for the team you want to build.

I've said this before, but I really like the idea of Fab Melo being picked at 19. Together with Dwight, that is an imposing presence that would be really be difficult to score against and stop. Plus, Melo is a good passer, not a ball dominant kind of guy, has a nice offensive touch (doesn't just throw balls at the backboard), his shot blocking is already NBA ready, he is just scratching his potential as the game is still new to him, and he would also solve our backup C problem. I really don't think Melo has to be a starter for us, but just to have that option is just a great idea, imo.

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[Skin]

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Not my idea of a post defender. I don't think Sullinger provides anything much different from Glen Davis.

[Skin]

I also love the idea of drafting Festus Ezeli. Can you imagine him and Dwight together??? Sickness. Somebody to also grab the offensive rebounds off Dwight's misses.

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[Truth24]

No wing in this draft is gonna defend Lebron. That's why I keep saying, we NEED TO BEEF UP THE POST. We need 2 twin towers in the post who can clog the lane and make it tough for all these fools.. Lebron, Wade, Durant, Westbrook, Rose from driving straight to the cup. Not only do we make our defense tougher (cause we all can agree that Ryno and Big Baby are nobody's idea of defensive stoppers), but we increase our ability to make easier baskets with 2 big men who can make higher percentage shots inside... a much more effective means of scoring than shooting 3s.

More Post defense, Post scoring... I think that's the way to go.

I'm kinda leaning towards this idea of thinking but I really dislike most of the true bigs in this draft. I mean this is a draft full of really really good tweeners (Terrence Jones, Royce White, Draymond Green, etc.) but lacks a lot of true bigs.

Here is who I view as the true bigs in this years draft.

1. Andre Drummond, Uconn
2. Meyers Leonard, Illinois
3. Tyler Zeller, North Carolina
4. Fab Melo, Syracuse
5. Festus Ezeli, Vanderbilt


I think we can cross Drummond off the list of our possible picks, but for the record he would be the perfect fit next to Dwight. I think we can also cross off Zeller mostly because I don't like him and his baby reach and wingspan. So this leaves Meyers Leonard, Fab Melo, and Festus Ezeli all good players in the own right but lets take a look at there numbers

Meyers Leonard- HT: 7'1", WT: 250, Wingspan: 7'3", Reach: 9'0, Agility: 11.34, Sprint: 3.41

Fab Melo- HT: 7'0", WT: 255, Wingspan: 7'2.5", Reach: 9'2, Agility: 12.14, Sprint: 3.44

Festus Ezeli- HT: 6'11.5, WT: 264, Wingspan: 7'5.75", Reach: 9'0, Agility: 12.35, Sprint: 3.29

They all break down pretty well when you look at there combine numbers and from here I can tell you Ezeli is a freak with his wingspan and straight line speed. On the other hand Meyers has really good lateral time and not such a shabby wingspan either. Fab brings a good wingspan and the best reach which is important for shot blockers. Now lets break down there numbers on the year and see who does what on the court.

Meyers Leonard: 13.6 ppg//.584 fg %//.732 ft %//8.2 reb//1.3 ast//1.9 blk//2.9 pf//2.1 to

Fab Melo: 7.8 ppg//.566 fg %//.633 ft %//5.8 reb//2.9 blk//2.8 pf//1.4 to

Festus Ezeli: 10.1 ppg//.539 fg %//.604 ft %//5.9 reb//2.0 blk//3.4 pf//2.2 to

These numbers combined with the combine and actually watching the prospects put this into great perspective. Meyers Leonard would be my choice if I wanted to beef up my front line and I think he would fit great next to Dwight and the team because he can hit the 15 ft shot and is a good passer. I'm not sure if Leonard would fall to 19 right now he could and it appears the Zeller has moved ahead of him in the draft as of now. Fab Melo would be my second choice but I'm not really that high on Melo because he has a tendency to get out of shape from time to time. I do like his low turn over ratio although he did get suspended, you can still tell he was the best shot blocker of the three. Festus would be my pick in round two but he needs some work on his fouling and turn over issues.

So my three choices in order would be.

1. Meyers Leonard, Illinois
2. Fab Melo, Syracuse
3. Festus Ezli, Vanderbilt

Truth be told if we wanted unti the 2013 draft that would be the perfect time to pick up another post player to put next to Dwight. I'm not sure if Dwight will still be around at that time but look at the names for that draft.

1. Isaiah Austin, Baylor
2. Steven Adams, Pittsburgh
3. Cody Zeller, Indiana
4. Nerlens Noel, Kentucky
5. Alex Len, Maryland
6. Alec Brown, Green Bay
7. Rudy Gobert, France

[Skin]

Excellent breakdown man!

I'm always flip flopping between who I like most. Right now it's probably Ezeli. He and Dwight on the block is a NIGHTMARE for our competition!

[Truth24]

Excellent breakdown man!

I'm always flip flopping between who I like most. Right now it's probably Ezeli. He and Dwight on the block is a NIGHTMARE for our competition!

To tell the truth Ezeli kind of reminds me of Epke Udoh with out the jumper, but he is very nasty with his timing. I don't like his rebound numbers or the amount of fouls he gives but he could be a nasty weak side shot blocker with Dwight.