Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Damian Lillard (POR)

[JamesNaismith]

Im not a lillard fan. at all... I will be upset if the raptors draft him.
BUT theres no way an athlete of his calibre is scared to go up against other top basketball players.

Wondering who would you like drafted if you had to pick?

Because I've seen you complain with almost every prospect we're linked to.

[No-lillard]

Damian said it himself if it was up to him he'd go head to head with these guys but his agent told him that doing solo workouts would be best.

Because " a overrated can only drop"
His agent know this and know Lil

[ty123]

The fact that this guy played in the big sky conference, worse than top tier high school competition and was unwilling to perform in a competitive workout setting is a big turnoff. How many decent nba players even came out of big sky conference?

[cdel00]

Its cool you have your opinion and reason for believing the way you do.

The facts remain the same though:

Elite physical atrributes,
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Elite accuracy
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Elite ball handle
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Elite leadership experiences
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Elite history of improvement
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Elite work ethic

That is why he is considered in the 3rd teir by all scouts that Ford spoke with. And they do take into consideration his conference, role at Weber, etc. Otherwise he'd be regarded as a teir 2 prospect.

Personally I put him in that 2nd teir because I like the intangibles I've seen and think the combination of his skills, brains, and body when powered by a huge heart and driven by his 'chip to workout well that Is a good mojo formula that I look for in a prospect.

His body says High Cieling, his attitude says low risk.

All of the above is reason enough to be worthy of the 8th pick.

The following list is just the icing on the cake:
The fact that his college student body president went through all the effort required to set up a huge draft day party and get the mayor to declare the 28th as 'Damian Lillard day' in Ogden.
The fact that Gary Payton has taken a personal interest in Lillard.
The fact that the media loved his interviews and his personality.
The fact that his coach raves about Lillard's impact on the program's ability to get better talent in.
The fact that his team-mates have always spoken very highly of his leadership.
The fact that his biggest rival (Will Cherry - Montana) is very good friends with him.

Lillard makes it very hard to not like him on the Raptors.

[fredericklove]

No way man, I don't want him to drop. I hope a team that takes risks and takes him early so that we can avoid him. Him going higher is actually doing us a huge favor. Whew.

This comes out from Lamb lover lips.
I would be glad if Lillard dropped to us, but thats never going to happen he is too good.

Nice to meet u, Lamb sig user w/ an avi that has lamb in it lol

[ash_k]

^^^all you said is nice

but The thing you need to ask yourself about Lillard;
Is he better than Irving, Brandon Knight, Kemba Walker ? No
How does he matchup vs BJennings,Jrue Holiday,Curry? he is inferior to those guys
Is he better than George Hill and Darren Collison? No
Is he any better that BAYLESS? No

How does he match up against the Westbrooks, Roses ? "N/A" (different league)
How does he match vs CP3s and D-Will? "N/A"

Hopefully Portland gets fooled by the "hype" and pick him, then G-State gets fooled by the "hype" around Waiters..then we are in good shape

[fredericklove]

I'm not sure how one can so strongly claim he is elite in everything.

[No-lillard]

I'm not sure how one can so strongly claim he is elite in everything.

But he was elite !!

He was elite in Bigsky
Then he played against Gutierrez

[cdel00]

^^^all you said is nice

but The thing you need to ask yourself about Lillard;
Is he better than Irving, Brandon Knight, Kemba Walker ? No
How does he matchup vs BJennings,Jrue Holiday,Curry? he is inferior to those guys
Is he better than George Hill and Darren Collison? No
Is he any better that BAYLESS? No

How does he match up against the Westbrooks, Roses ? "N/A" (different league)
How does he match vs CP3s and D-Will? "N/A"

Hopefully Portland gets fooled by the "hype" and pick him, then G-State gets fooled by the "hype" around Waiters..then we are in good shape

The thing about hype is that I like is he doesn't stop working because of it, the hype doesn't negatively effect him. Right now we discuss his game, right now he's working on improving his game. Improving his laeteral quickness, and his defensive form. Right now lillard is getting better. Everyday he gets a lil better. Everyday.

Where will that lead him to become is subject to opinion. The NBA career is a journey to Lillard not a destination. He ain't got quit in him. Its not in his DNA.

[Crazy-Canuck]

Anyone can look good against inferior competition, less physically mature players and one on none drills.

If that doesnt scare you off Lillard, nothing will.


I dont think he's a scrub by any means, but he just has too many red flags for my liking.

[cdel00]

Look good sure, lillard wasn't good.

Lillard was phenominal

[cdel00]

Self edit

Enjoy the draft

[ash_k]

If the Raps select Lillard, then BC and Stepanski should be fired on the spot.

I would have liked to see Lillard in the PAC-10 as a Freshman and dominate the competition while the WestBrooks and Mayos were around

I would like to see if Lillard can go into his 1st Summer league and dominate the competition and be named MVP.

I would like to see if Lillard can be a MINIMUM 17ppg 6apg when given starter minutes

I would have liked to see Lillard go toe-to-toe against at that time soon to be league MVP Derrick Rose and go 26 and 8 (and finish that April month 22.5ppg 5.6apg in 8 games)

Yeah

[ty123]

I'm not against drafting lillard, his PER and tools are too intriguong to not look at. But how many good players ever come out of the big sky conference? Jimmer?

Anyway if we have good reason to believe lillard will be a good, maybe top tier starting pg in the NBA I hope we don't pass him up because we have bayless. If so BC should be shown the door.

[No-lillard]

I'm not against drafting lillard, his PER and tools are too intriguong to not look at. But how many good players ever come out of the big sky conference? Jimmer?

1) Jimmer played in BYU (Mountain West, not Big Sky)

2) How many good players come out of Bg Sky?
According to basketball-reference only Stuckey (not so great), Krystkowiak (not so good) and Michael Ray Richardson (really good)
And a lot of scrubs

Look good sure, lillard wasn't good.

Lillard was phenominal

Where is the pusher?

[DG88]

Damian said it himself if it was up to him he'd go head to head with these guys but his agent told him that doing solo workouts would be best.

Because " a overrated can only drop"
His agent know this and know Lil

So I'm guessing all of the other top lottery picks are overrated because they did solo workouts too. The agents are the ones in control of the workout to get to most money for their client it's as simple as that. The more money their client makes the more money they make, that's how it works.

[No-lillard]

Damian said it himself if it was up to him he'd go head to head with these guys but his agent told him that doing solo workouts would be best.

Because " a overrated can only drop"
His agent know this and know Lil

So I'm guessing all of the other top lottery picks are overrated because they did solo workouts too. The agents are the ones in control of the workout to get to most money for their client it's as simple as that. The more money their client makes the more money they make, that's how it works.

Try to think sometime
Every (E-V-E-R-Y) lottery pick played against good players during the season

EVERY


P.s. Drummond - Robinson
Do you know this 2 players?
They did solo workouts?
http://aol.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2 ... or-bobcats

[cdel00]

Lol I've given up hope dood is so in love with his 2 straws.

Big sky,
Solo workouts.

Your whole argument is based on 2straws.

You drinking a very big glass of hater aide

Rofl.

[DG88]

Try to think sometime
Every (E-V-E-R-Y) lottery pick played against good players during the season

EVERY


P.s. Drummond - Robinson
Do you know this 2 players?
They did solo workouts?
http://aol.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2 ... or-bobcats

Ya of course I know those players I'm not stupid to ignore that. All I'm saying is this is the process that all high to mid lottery go through. Right now Lillard is ranked to be in the top 8 of this draft. NBA scouts and GMs have been watching Lillard throughout the year along with all the other players in this draft. They know the strengths and weaknesses to their games. Lillard did play in a weak conference no one should deny that it hurts him. Yet this guy was still double and triple teamed because he was the only legit weapon on his team. Even with that he was and efficient scoring PG who rarely turned the ball over and still scored 24.5 points on 15 shot attempts. I don't care which conference you play in being double and triple teamed and your still able to be an efficient scorer for your team is pretty damn good. In the NBA his responsibilities would be waaay less than at Weber St. Lillard isn't a perfect prospect and neither are any of the other prospects in this draft. There are prospects in this draft, who are lottery picks, that played in better competition than Lillard but never really improved their games that much.

[No-lillard]

Lol I've given up hope dood is so in love with his 2 straws.

Big sky,
Solo workouts.

Your whole argument is based on 2straws.

You drinking a very big glass of hater aide

Rofl.

3 arguments, not 2
Results against decent team
2/17, 4/13, 2/13 ...
Solid performances