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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves 

Post#1261 » by LyricalRico » Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:48 pm

The Wallace opt-out is freaking hilarious! Now the Nets will have absolutely nothing.

- No Howard (why would he come)
- No Williams (why would he stay)
- No Wallace (already jumped ship)
- No Favors (traded to get Williams)
- No picks in several drafts

And they don't even have a period of short-lived success to show for it!

I can still hear the echoes of Wilbon as he went on and on a couple years ago about what Prokhorov(sp?) was going to do with the Nets and how he was going to woo every big star in the game and how essentially every other team was at a disadvantage because this billionaire Russian was going to rule the NBA.

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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves 

Post#1262 » by verbal8 » Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:54 pm

LyricalRico wrote:The Wallace opt-out is freaking hilarious! Now the Nets will have absolutely nothing.
:lol:


But they have "Salary Cap Flexibility". And we all know that is what wins championships lol
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves 

Post#1263 » by queridiculo » Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:12 pm

Who didn't see this coming when the Nets signed Billy King.

We bitch and moan about Grunfeld, but boy, let's just be glad we don't have to deal with epic fail on this guys level.

Give up lottery picks for somebody you could have signed in FA? Why not. Compound the mistake by doing it AGAIN the next year, genius.

Two lottery picks gone, and likely not a damn thing to show for.

New flagship arena and you're going to try to sell the Brooklyn fans on what exactly, Brooks and Lopez? Wow, how embarrassing.
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Post#1264 » by closg00 » Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:45 pm

In-excusable, the Russians should fire King after the draft. The Nets board must be freaking-out.
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Post#1265 » by closg00 » Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:32 pm

I don't know what OKC is going to do with another 7 footer when they don't use Aldrich, but they are getting Tibor Pleiss next year. Pleiss looks like a poor-mans Vesely and OKC got him for peanuts.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves 

Post#1266 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:21 pm

LyricalRico wrote:The Wallace opt-out is freaking hilarious! Now the Nets will have absolutely nothing.

- No Howard (why would he come)
- No Williams (why would he stay)
- No Wallace (already jumped ship)
- No Favors (traded to get Williams)
- No picks in several drafts

And they don't even have a period of short-lived success to show for it!

I can still hear the echoes of Wilbon as he went on and on a couple years ago about what Prokhorov(sp?) was going to do with the Nets and how he was going to woo every big star in the game and how essentially every other team was at a disadvantage because this billionaire Russian was going to rule the NBA.

:lol:

The Nets bailed on Favors really quickly.

In fairness, I believe a healthy Marshon Brooks was a good pick. I think Jordan Williams is an excellent rebounder and will be a solid pro. OTHERWISE, the moves above were pretty much all the wrong moves by King.
The Wizards shoukd have drafted Derik Queen

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Post#1267 » by montestewart » Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:07 pm

Nets 2nd round pick this year (35th overall) is held by Golden State. That could have been a decent player too, with the like of Barton, Denmon, Crowder, Jenkins, Plumlee, Lamb, etc. possibly available early in the 2nd. They do have Miami's 2nd (57th overall). Their draft will look like the draft of a typical championship contender, or any old Knicks team.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves 

Post#1268 » by closg00 » Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:14 am

verbal8 wrote:
LyricalRico wrote:The Wallace opt-out is freaking hilarious! Now the Nets will have absolutely nothing.
:lol:


But they have "Salary Cap Flexibility". And we all know that is what wins championships lol


More comedy, Alex Kennedy tweeted that the Nets were looking to try and get a lottery pick :lol:
Let me guess, he was doing what his owner asked him to :lol:
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Post#1269 » by LyricalRico » Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:25 pm

The Charlotte Bobcats will hire Mike Dunlap to be their new head coach.

Dunlap was most recently an assistant coach with St. John's.

Quin Snyder and Brian Shaw were also finalists for the position.

Dunlap has prior NBA experience as an assistant under George Karl with the Nuggets. Karl, like Charlotte owner Michael Jordan, played at North Carolina under Dean Smith.


Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/22 ... z1yM5lyrRP

MJ strikes again. That team will NEVER be good. :nonono:
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Post#1270 » by Eoghan » Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:26 pm

LyricalRico wrote:
The Charlotte Bobcats will hire Mike Dunlap to be their new head coach.

Dunlap was most recently an assistant coach with St. John's.

Quin Snyder and Brian Shaw were also finalists for the position.

Dunlap has prior NBA experience as an assistant under George Karl with the Nuggets. Karl, like Charlotte owner Michael Jordan, played at North Carolina under Dean Smith.


Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/22 ... z1yM5lyrRP

MJ strikes again. That team will NEVER be good. :nonono:

Yeah, we should have traded for Okafor and Ariza. Championship!

Here's your new franchise savior in action:

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Okay, I'm done being a jackass. I think you guys can feel pretty confident that Charlotte won't draft Beal, so Wall and Beal with a Okafor and Nene frontcourt might be a pretty decent team in the East. Seems like you guys are definitely moving the throttle towards "win now" so I'm not sure how much good guys like Singleton, Vesely and Booker can do you in the short term. Think your FO will make any more moves to shore up the depth?
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves 

Post#1271 » by Rafael122 » Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:38 pm

BrotherDave wrote:
LyricalRico wrote:
The Charlotte Bobcats will hire Mike Dunlap to be their new head coach.

Dunlap was most recently an assistant coach with St. John's.

Quin Snyder and Brian Shaw were also finalists for the position.

Dunlap has prior NBA experience as an assistant under George Karl with the Nuggets. Karl, like Charlotte owner Michael Jordan, played at North Carolina under Dean Smith.


Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/22 ... z1yM5lyrRP

MJ strikes again. That team will NEVER be good. :nonono:

Yeah, we should have traded for Okafor and Ariza. Championship!

Here's your new franchise savior in action:

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Okay, I'm done being a jackass. I think you guys can feel pretty confident that Charlotte won't draft Beal, so Wall and Beal with a Okafor and Nene frontcourt might be a pretty decent team in the East. Seems like you guys are definitely moving the throttle towards "win now" so I'm not sure how much good guys like Singleton, Vesely and Booker can do you in the short term. Think your FO will make any more moves to shore up the depth?


Probably. Flip a coin between Booker and Vesely.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves 

Post#1272 » by LyricalRico » Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:50 pm

Is GSW still after a stud SF? Is Philly still looking for a big and a shooter? How about this:

Warriors trade: Biedrins, Wright, #7
Sixers trade: Iguodala
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves 

Post#1273 » by fishercob » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:07 pm

Super cool from the Charlotte Observeron a database that Rich Cho is building.

I love the arms race in the information age of the NBA. And remember, just because there haven't been stories about each of the other 29 teams having such tools, doesn't mean they don't have their own versions.

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Post#1274 » by Ruzious » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:39 pm

Jordan Farmar is the highest paid player on the Brooklyn roster. If Doron Williams doesn't re-sign, they'll need to acquire players just to reach the salary minimum. Hopefully, Ernie has good ties with their owner - or he's learning Russian. There could be a salary dump opportunity there.
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Post#1275 » by montestewart » Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:00 pm

Ruzious wrote:Jordan Farmar is the highest paid player on the Brooklyn roster. If Doron Williams doesn't re-sign, they'll need to acquire players just to reach the salary minimum. Hopefully, Ernie has good ties with their owner - or he's learning Russian. There could be a salary dump opportunity there.

Based on doclinkin's comment in the optimism thread, maybe cap space isn't worth what it was two years ago, and the Wizards could offload Blatche for a heavily protected 2nd, but I fear something more like Blatche and a lightly protected future 1st for a heavily protected 2nd. Or maybe EG will be in sync with some voices on this board and do nothing, one trade too late.
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Post#1276 » by FAH1223 » Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:02 pm

Ruzious wrote:Jordan Farmar is the highest paid player on the Brooklyn roster. If Doron Williams doesn't re-sign, they'll need to acquire players just to reach the salary minimum. Hopefully, Ernie has good ties with their owner - or he's learning Russian. There could be a salary dump opportunity there.


Blatche for their 2nd round pick :lol:
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves 

Post#1277 » by nate33 » Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:06 pm

FAH1223 wrote:
Ruzious wrote:Jordan Farmar is the highest paid player on the Brooklyn roster. If Doron Williams doesn't re-sign, they'll need to acquire players just to reach the salary minimum. Hopefully, Ernie has good ties with their owner - or he's learning Russian. There could be a salary dump opportunity there.


Blatche for their 2nd round pick :lol:

If New Jersey wants to meet the minimum salary requirement while also maintaining future flexibility, they will be looking for expiring contracts or maybe 2-year contracts. It's plausible that they would take Okafor off our hands for nothing.

The end result would be that we traded our obligation to pay Lewis $13.7M next year to do nothing into an obligation to pay Trevor Ariza $14M over 2 years to be our small forward. That's a pretty good deal.
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Post#1278 » by Ruzious » Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:22 pm

I hadn't thought of that, but yeah - net of 300 thousand for 2 years of Ariza. That wouldn't be bad at all.

Maybe Ernie throws in a pet miniature giraffe.
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Post#1279 » by fishercob » Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:28 pm

Nash is 38, so his career is winding down. He wants to win a championship but also wants to be compensated as well.

Nash said he worries about the possibility of taking less money to play for a team he believes is a contender, only for one of its top players to be injured -- or worse, for him to be traded.

"I have to be really careful and make a sound decision," Nash said.


Nash to the Pacers. 3 years, $30M. Third year partial guarantee or team option.
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Post#1280 » by Rafael122 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:00 pm

Houston trades Budinger to Minnesota for the 18th pick. Interesting, if Houston is trying to gear up for a Dwight trade they certainly have the ammo.
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