Deng to GS PG.13 / PG.43 Bulls Say Otherwise

boogydown · Post #201 » by **boogydown** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:12 am

Golden State Board:

Which SF would you prefer to trade for?
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Winner: Luol Deng

boogydown · Post #202 » by **boogydown** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:13 am

HomoSapien wrote:If the Bulls do that trade, then it's clear they aren't as concerned about finances as we think. Instead it means that they really like someone at 7 and think that Wright isn't a huge downgrade from Deng.

It's a horrible trade though. I mean we save no cap space, Wright is a rental, and even GS Board thinks it's heavily favoring them.

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Irregular · Post #203 » by **Irregular** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:19 am

Coldchi wrote:why on earth are we contemplating trading deng for a chance to get ben gordan *Beal" i like butler as much as the next guy but he is no Deng and no one in this draft out side of Davis has any real shot of being better then deng. so honestly this looks like the kinda move that bad teams make to get bad.

Beal is more of a Ray Allen/Eric Gordon Type.

Bulls fans fall in love with average players.

The front office is trying to build a team that can run with Rose in the future.

Hope doesn't win championships. Noah, Deng and Boozer are not #2 stars.

bullsnewdynasty · Post #204 » by **bullsnewdynasty** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:19 am

The worst part about that deal is taking Biedrins. If Gar really did make that offer, they must be REALLY sold on someone at 7.

ChicagoStrong · Post #205 » by **ChicagoStrong** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:19 am

Irregular wrote:
Beal is more of a Ray Allen/Eric Gordon Type.

Bulls fans fall in love with average players. The front office is trying to build a team that can run with Rose in the future.

Hope doesn't win championships. Noah, Deng and Boozer are not #2 stars.

How do you know Beal will be a star?

Ralphb07 · Post #206 » by **Ralphb07** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:20 am

I can't really say anything but the worse Kings offered that's been floating around is 20 times better than this Golden State one.

IMO that could be what the Warriors offered us, no way it's what we offered them. Also if that's what they did offer us I'd put their GM on phone block and never talk to them again if I was Gar.

Post #207 » by **coldfish** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:21 am

Irregular wrote:
Coldchi wrote:why on earth are we contemplating trading deng for a chance to get ben gordan *Beal" i like butler as much as the next guy but he is no Deng and no one in this draft out side of Davis has any real shot of being better then deng. so honestly this looks like the kinda move that bad teams make to get bad.

Beal is more of a Ray Allen/Eric Gordon Type.

.............

Hope doesn't win championships.

That's kind of funny. Ironic funny, but funny.

Irregular · Post #208 » by **Irregular** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:21 am

ChicagoStrong wrote:
Irregular wrote:
Beal is more of a Ray Allen/Eric Gordon Type.

Bulls fans fall in love with average players. The front office is trying to build a team that can run with Rose in the future.

Hope doesn't win championships. Noah, Deng and Boozer are not #2 stars.

How do you know Beal will be a star?

And How do you know he won't be one?

He is 6'5 and much taller then Ben.

Extremely effective in transition, Beal can create for himself and others in smooth and effortless fashion off the dribble with his ability to change speeds and put the ball on the floor with either hand.

Isn't that what the Bulls need a creator?

boogydown · Post #209 » by **boogydown** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:23 am

Ralphb07 wrote:I can't really say anything but the worse Kings offered that's been floating around is 20 times better than this Golden State one.

IMO that could be what the Warriors offered us, no way it's what we offered them. Also if that's what they did offer us I'd put their GM on phone block and never talk to them again if I was Gar.

+1

It's really not a realistic offer.

UGABulls · Post #210 » by **UGABulls** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:23 am

ChiTownsFynest3 wrote:always loved deng, but after he hit on my boys fiancee at the club while my boy was there and **** her afterwards i lost all respect for him.. goodbye deng

Your boys fiancee was just a sloot. Deng is ugly and she is just a groupie. She did him a favor by showing her true colors before they got married.

bullsnewdynasty · Post #211 » by **bullsnewdynasty** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:23 am

I don't think the value is too off on that deal. But if we're going to take back an overpaid player, I'd rather that it be a perimeter player, not a big man.

ChicagoStrong · Post #212 » by **ChicagoStrong** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:24 am

Irregular wrote:
ChicagoStrong wrote:
Irregular wrote:
Beal is more of a Ray Allen/Eric Gordon Type.

Bulls fans fall in love with average players. The front office is trying to build a team that can run with Rose in the future.

Hope doesn't win championships. Noah, Deng and Boozer are not #2 stars.

How do you know Beal will be a star?

And How do you know he won't be one?

He is a good shooter, and can space the floor for Rose.

He is 6'5 and much taller then Ben.

You said

Hope doesn't win championships.

But you are hoping Beal becomes a star.

bullsnewdynasty · Post #213 » by **bullsnewdynasty** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:24 am

coldfish wrote:
Irregular wrote:
Coldchi wrote:why on earth are we contemplating trading deng for a chance to get ben gordan *Beal" i like butler as much as the next guy but he is no Deng and no one in this draft out side of Davis has any real shot of being better then deng. so honestly this looks like the kinda move that bad teams make to get bad.

Beal is more of a Ray Allen/Eric Gordon Type.

.............

Hope doesn't win championships.

That's kind of funny. Ironic funny, but funny.

I just laugh at all of his posts. :lol:

Irregular · Post #214 » by **Irregular** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:26 am

It's better then hoping Deng makes a full recovery along with Rose and somehow win the 2013 title with Rose doing all the scoring.

ChicagoStrong · Post #215 » by **ChicagoStrong** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:28 am

Irregular wrote:It's better then hoping Deng makes a full recovery along with Rose and somehow win the 2013 title with Rose doing all the scoring.

But you said

Hope doesn't win championships.

Irregular · Post #216 » by **Irregular** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:28 am

This is one of the deepest drafts in a long time. I don't see that many busts as other people do.

We will find out soon what the Bulls do on draft night.

ChicagoStrong · Post #217 » by **ChicagoStrong** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:30 am

Irregular wrote:This is one of the deepest drafts in a long time. I don't see that many busts as other people do.

We will find out soon what the Bulls do on draft night.

But draft picks being good depends on hope and you said

Hope doesn't win championships.

Irregular · Post #218 » by **Irregular** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:34 am

DJhitek wrote:We are contenders, but we are not contenders if Derrick Rose isn't playing 100 percent healthy. Whether you want to believe he will be back better then ever so soon after such an injury is certainly a hope. Not sure if it's a reality though. But again, I don't want to get into tangents about the current makeup of the roster. I've been saying some of these things since last season.

I didn't start the hope thing.

ecnirp · Post #219 » by **ecnirp** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:35 am

MnM24 wrote:
ChiTownsFynest3 wrote:always loved deng, but after he hit on my boys fiancee at the club while my boy was there and **** her afterwards i lost all respect for him.. goodbye deng

boogydown · Post #220 » by **boogydown** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:35 am

When the Golden State Board agrees it heavily favors the Warriors, you know that it's a bad trade for the Bulls. The Warriors are usually heavily biased.