The Official Draft Thread 2: Judgement Day

[Kerrsed]

Tim Chisholm: Another angle for Raps fans concerned about Nash: a Lowry trade gives Raps a young PG to offer to PHO in an s&t. via Twitter

Interesting....... Lowry/#14 for Calderon/#8, then S&T Lowry for a S&T Nash?

Also:

Ezekiel Escobar: Some highly intriguing news has hit the wire tonight from ESPN’s Chad Ford. Speculation grew this morning when news of the Kings interest in St. John’s Moe Harkless leaked and now, according to Chad Ford, the Kings and Rockets have been in trade talks for the #5 pick. via Twitter

[DirtyDez]

I think Houston can get Dwight right now but talking to D-Will about it would be tampering...

Martin, Lowry, Budinger, Patterson, Dalembert, #14, #16

For

Dwight and Hedo (or Dwight, J-Rich, Big Baby)

D-Will
J-Rich
Parsons
Scola
Dwight

= easily 3rd best team in the league

[Kerrsed]

I think Houston can get Dwight right now but talking to D-Will about it would be tampering...

Martin, Lowry, Budinger, Patterson, Dalembert, #14, #16

For

Dwight and Hedo (or Dwight, J-Rich, Big Baby)

I dont think Orlando would take that.

Lowry/Nelson/Duhoun
Martin/Jrich/Reddick/Von Wafer
Buddinger/Qrich/Clark
BBD/Patterson/Harper
Dalembert

Thats who they would have under contract. Then add in 4 more players from the draft. Also retaining Anderson is something they would like to do. Martin/Lowry/Budinger/PP/Dally/#14/#16 is a crappy offer. Thats quantity and not quality. Orlando would be stuck with like 27 players under contract, and none that are really any good.

[DirtyDez]

Lowry/Nelson/Duhoun
Martin/Jrich/Reddick/Von Wafer
Buddinger/Qrich/Clark
BBD/Patterson/Harper
Dalembert

They would choose the J-Rich/BBD option because they're both under contract for 3-4 more seasons. Reddick and Clark are expiring, Nelson would opt out right now if that trade happened, Wafer's $ isn't guaranteed and Harper makes peanuts. They could trade their three 1st rounders into the top 5 and get Drummond.

That's better than anything Brooklyn could give them and if they wanted Bynum they'd have him by now but they're tired of drama queen Centers.

Lowry, Duhon
Martin, Reddick
Hedo, Q-Rich
Anderson, PP
Drummond, Dalembert

[Revived]

....and OKC has two players (Ibaka and Harden) both can't be retained....

They can and they might. Seems Harden is talking about giving them a nice discount so they can all remain together. He really does value winning.

Nah man no way a 22 year old who just got done with his cheap rookie contract is gonna leave money on the table.

He hasn't earned the big $$$ yet and here's chance in doing so. As far as him talking about them remaining together, I'm sure he would prefer to take the max and stay in OKC rather than bolt for elsewhere...

It works like this: OKC can offer either Harden OR Ibaka the max, just not both.

So, Harden is trying to look humble/good by saying all these things to try to get Presti choose Harden over Ibaka. Plus right now, Harden may have a better public rep among fans than Ibaka simply because of that one statement in which he talks about them being a dynasty etc. And the way fans view Harden will also play a huge role in deciding who gets the extension for Presti.

Basically, Harden is just trying to suck up to Presti. And he has every right to do it because every player does it but we'll have to wait and see if it actually works.

[Revived]

Tim Chisholm: Another angle for Raps fans concerned about Nash: a Lowry trade gives Raps a young PG to offer to PHO in an s&t. via Twitter

Interesting....... Lowry/#14 for Calderon/#8, then S&T Lowry for a S&T Nash?

Also:

Ezekiel Escobar: Some highly intriguing news has hit the wire tonight from ESPN’s Chad Ford. Speculation grew this morning when news of the Kings interest in St. John’s Moe Harkless leaked and now, according to Chad Ford, the Kings and Rockets have been in trade talks for the #5 pick. via Twitter

Isn't Lowry already under contract for a few years? So why would they sign and trade Lowry then?

[Fo-Real]

Lowry is signed for next year and the one after. I dont want him here, what is it with us and Hustons point Pgs. Unless he would be used to facilitate another trade, I dont want him. If we could use him, packaged with Gortat to get both Portland picks and a player, then maybe.

[Revived]

Lowry is way better than Aaron Brooks.

Lowry is a passing PG and is also a GREAT defender.

Brooks is a small, scoring PG who is awful defensively.

[King4Day]

Lowry is signed for next year and the one after. I dont want him here, what is it with us and Hustons point Pgs. Unless he would be used to facilitate another trade, I dont want him. If we could use him, packaged with Gortat to get both Portland picks and a player, then maybe.

If we're offered Lowry for Nash, you do it an run away laughing that we would have gotten such a huge haul for a guy not even under contract.

Regarding your trade idea, this wouldn't be possible unless they were separate trades. Out players can't be involved in deals with newly acquired players.

[Saberestar]

Goodbye to Rivers?


"Duke’s Austin Rivers seems to be one of the players on a meteoric rise, possibly as high as #6 to Portland.
Apparently new Blazers’ GM Neil Olshey believes Rivers could be a real star level guy in the NBA and the Blazers have been debating the merits of taking him with the #6 and drafting the best available center at #11. The problem is the Blazers would be passing on UCONN big man Andre Drummond who most believe will be there at #6 and might be too much of an upside talent to pass on.

Common sense says go with Drummond, but Olshey has always been willing to take risks. If Paul Allen and the Blazers buy- in don’t be shocked to see Rivers go #6 because there is almost no chance he’ll be there at #11 as New Orleans is said to covet him with the #10."


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[Saberestar]

I think it is very interesting that Orlando is shopping his pick.
I WANT IT NOW!


League sources commented yesterday that the early word regarding the Magic’s draft plans include trying to trade the #19 overall pick for a future draft asset. The Magic appear to be trying to get as much salary off the books as possible.

The #19 pick represents a salary of $1,181,800 this year and $1,235,000 next year, and it seems that cap space is more valuable than the player the team could acquire.

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[Revived]

Neil Oshley is the same guy who said Waiters is the next Wade, there are only two stars in this draft, Davis and Waiters, etc.

Oshley is just trying to blow a smokescreen. Portland is gonna draft Drummond at #6 no matter what.

Also New Orleans is gonna draft Rivers when they already have Gordon? That's funny. I don't care how close Monty Williams and Rivers families are, the Hornets have NOBODY at SF and can use some much needed upgrade at PG and PFs....no way in hell they pass on all that to get depth at a position where they already have Eric Gordon.

Unless their not planning on bring Gordon back...

[GrantHill]

I think it is very interesting that Orlando is shopping his pick.
I WANT IT NOW!

Yeah, giving up future picks is exactly what we should do in our situation right now.

[sunskerr]

Goodbye to Rivers?


"Duke’s Austin Rivers seems to be one of the players on a meteoric rise, possibly as high as #6 to Portland.
Apparently new Blazers’ GM Neil Olshey believes Rivers could be a real star level guy in the NBA and the Blazers have been debating the merits of taking him with the #6 and drafting the best available center at #11. The problem is the Blazers would be passing on UCONN big man Andre Drummond who most believe will be there at #6 and might be too much of an upside talent to pass on.

Common sense says go with Drummond, but Olshey has always been willing to take risks. If Paul Allen and the Blazers buy- in don’t be shocked to see Rivers go #6 because there is almost no chance he’ll be there at #11 as New Orleans is said to covet him with the #10."


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That's great. Maybe Waiters does fall to us.

[JohnVancouver]

Rockets are a team that makes total sense for Drummond. I think he has huge bust potential, but with them, they have so many young prospects already, that they can afford to take a risk on a guy like him with huge upside, without as much to lose if he is a bust.

Also helps when they have Hakeem on speed dial to Help Drummond develop.

And Mchale is no slouch coaching big men - best scenario for Drummond, by far

[JohnVancouver]

Argh this draft needs to hurry the hell up. Got the day off work and me and coldbyfletch are meant to be hitting the beers and pizza from 11am onwards

Bastard - waiting to see if I'm called in to work. If not, i get to work at home ....
No beer nor pizza as I'm still 25 pounds from playing weight

[JohnVancouver]

I think it is very interesting that Orlando is shopping his pick.
I WANT IT NOW!

Yeah, giving up future picks is exactly what we should do in our situation right now.

Wisdom. Much rather see us make a dal to take a bad salary later in the season in exchange for future picks, not be dealing them now.
Unless of course we did it to target on sure-thing draftee who would change the course of our future - but I dont' see that guy available in this draft

I did see the Jordan HS stars game, and it might be Nerlens Noel, though

[JMac1]

Goodbye to Rivers?


"Duke’s Austin Rivers seems to be one of the players on a meteoric rise, possibly as high as #6 to Portland.
Apparently new Blazers’ GM Neil Olshey believes Rivers could be a real star level guy in the NBA and the Blazers have been debating the merits of taking him with the #6 and drafting the best available center at #11. The problem is the Blazers would be passing on UCONN big man Andre Drummond who most believe will be there at #6 and might be too much of an upside talent to pass on.

Common sense says go with Drummond, but Olshey has always been willing to take risks. If Paul Allen and the Blazers buy- in don’t be shocked to see Rivers go #6 because there is almost no chance he’ll be there at #11 as New Orleans is said to covet him with the #10."


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[JMac1]

Goodbye to Rivers?


"Duke’s Austin Rivers seems to be one of the players on a meteoric rise, possibly as high as #6 to Portland.
Apparently new Blazers’ GM Neil Olshey believes Rivers could be a real star level guy in the NBA and the Blazers have been debating the merits of taking him with the #6 and drafting the best available center at #11. The problem is the Blazers would be passing on UCONN big man Andre Drummond who most believe will be there at #6 and might be too much of an upside talent to pass on.

Common sense says go with Drummond, but Olshey has always been willing to take risks. If Paul Allen and the Blazers buy- in don’t be shocked to see Rivers go #6 because there is almost no chance he’ll be there at #11 as New Orleans is said to covet him with the #10."


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That's great. Maybe Waiters does fall to us.

I'd take him over Rivers

[Gorilla Warfare]

Portland is where careers go to die, just for the sake of seeing what the kid can do at the pro level I would HATE to see Rivers (or anyone with talent/potential) go to the Blazers.