Official Trade Thread: Part 3

sunster · Post #761 » by **sunster** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:03 pm

It doesn't matter if offense wasn't meant. If you accidently push someone off a cliff or do it or purpose the effect is the same...
I would expect that the reason he mentioned it was because he actually took offense to that being used as a metaphor - perhaps he had relatives in such a situation. The fact is, we don't know, and as adults we should have respect for that.

JDLAW · Post #762 » by **JDLAW** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:08 pm

I do not know John Vancouver but I am assuming he never intended to make such an offensive comment, but he did and I and simply asked him to see if he could remove it.

RunDogGun · Post #763 » by **RunDogGun** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:31 pm

It wasn't offensive, he was describing a feeling. If it is offensive, then so is every movie that shows that scene.

SS, (sorry no pun intended) wouldn't you mean Defcon 1? 5 would mean everything is ok.

I really want to see us make a splash in this draft. I would like to see us listed under teams that did the best in this draft, besides the obvious NO getting Davis.

Post #764 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:36 pm

It definitely could be taken as offensive. We know the intent, and that he likely didn't mean it, but I've seen people get banned on the General Discussion board for making such comparisons.

JMac1 · Post #765 » by **JMac1** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:45 pm

When I first read it, I was agasped...but my first thought was, I don't think he really thought about the comparison. We all know it wasn't meant as an insensitive remark, while minimizing the holocaust. He just meant it was painful to Suns' fan. It wasn't offensive per-say (unless he meant it), but it was shocking.

Anyways bad comparision....moving on.

Sun Scorched · Post #766 » by **Sun Scorched** » Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:37 pm

RunDogGun wrote:It wasn't offensive, he was describing a feeling. If it is offensive, then so is every movie that shows that scene.

SS, (sorry no pun intended) wouldn't you mean Defcon 1? 5 would mean everything is ok.

I really want to see us make a splash in this draft. I would like to see us listed under teams that did the best in this draft, besides the obvious NO getting Davis.

Haha - I actually typed DEFCON.... then sat there trying to remember which was worse, one or five. Yep. Couldn't spend the time to just look it up. Opted for the 50/50 proposition instead.

DEFCON is rather unexciting, however. I recommend that we change our scale to CLUSTERF@#K 1 - 5. As in: "I expect that the Suns draft room will be in CLUSTERF@#K 1 on draft night."

YouTube · Post #767 » by **Kerrsed** » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:47 am

Alex Kennedy: The Houston Rockets are shopping everyone. Kyle Lowry, Kevin Martin, Samuel Dalembert, EVERYONE. Even their mascot, Clutch, is on the block. via Twitter

Gorilla Warfare · Post #768 » by **Gorilla Warfare** » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:52 am

Clutch for Robin Lopez. Make it happen Babby!!

Frank Lee · Post #769 » by **Frank Lee** » Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:28 pm

I cant think of any other deals to get us the extra pick y'all are hollering for... anyone else have some ideas ? Lets hope BabbyLon does.

To Cleveleand
2013 second round pick + Cash
To Phnx
Luke Walton + #24 + #34

Post #770 » by **bwgood77** » Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:39 pm

It's going to be tough to get an extra pick since we don't really have assets. And since there are owners with significantly deeper pockets, it makes it tougher to buy one.

$3M is like a penny to Mikhail Prokhorov and Paul Allen, and like a nickel to maybe 10 other owners. To Sarver, that's a big chunk of change.

JohnVancouver · Post #771 » by **JohnVancouver** » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:49 pm

In deopth scouting report on free agents available this summer, ranked 1 to 40. At 38, this on Sideshow:

38. Robin Lopez, C, Phoenix Suns: Tall.

Revived · Post #772 » by **Revived** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:09 am

Pistons just dumped Gordon for an expiring contract!!!

Why can't the Suns do this with Childress or Warrick?!

Post #773 » by **bwgood77** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:12 am

sunsfan88 wrote:Pistons just dumped Gordon for an expiring contract!!!

Why can't the Suns do this with Childress or Warrick?!

Because Gordon is better than those guys? They also had to give up a future first to do it. Ben Gordon seems like a similar player as Kemba Walker though. Perhaps Jordan just wanted some more UConn championship pedigree there.

Revived · Post #774 » by **Revived** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:15 am

Get Nashty wrote:Clutch for Robin Lopez. Make it happen Babby!!

Imagine Clutch and the Gorilla together....that's a scary lineup right there!

Revived · Post #775 » by **Revived** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:16 am

bwgood77 wrote:
sunsfan88 wrote:Pistons just dumped Gordon for an expiring contract!!!

Why can't the Suns do this with Childress or Warrick?!

Because Gordon is better than those guys? They also had to give up a future first to do it. Ben Gordon seems like a similar player as Kemba Walker though. Perhaps Jordan just wanted some more UConn championship pedigree there.

Yea they gave up a lottery protected 1st...big ****ing deal.

Their not making the playoffs anytime soon so why the hell wouldn't they trade it?

I have no problem trading our lottery protected 1st next year to dump Childress or Warrick.

Post #776 » by **bwgood77** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:20 am

Actually it was a smart move for Charlotte because Gordon could be an expiring too. He has a player option after this next year, and I imagine there is a good chance he might want out of Charlotte.

So they may have just swapped expirings and added a pick. Even if Gordon does pick up his option, he might be a trade asset the following year when he is an expiring.

Revived · Post #777 » by **Revived** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:22 am

Yea then might as well keep Childress too since he will be a trade asset 3 years from now when's expiring too right?

carey · Post #778 » by **carey** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:29 am

bwgood77 wrote:Actually it was a smart move for Charlotte because Gordon could be an expiring too. He has a player option after this next year, and I imagine there is a good chance he might want out of Charlotte.

So they may have just swapped expirings and added a pick. Even if Gordon does pick up his option, he might be a trade asset the following year when he is an expiring.

He's not making $13M per again. I think he stays. Unless things get really really bad in Charlotte.

Post #779 » by **bwgood77** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:37 am

sunsfan88 wrote:Yea then might as well keep Childress too since he will be a trade asset 3 years from now when's expiring too right?

If we had to trade away a pick and take back a guy that made just as much money, but had a contract ending one year sooner, I guess it would depend on what player we were taking back.

I don't want to give away any more picks, and you can't lottery protect them forever, or a team won't make the trade.

Also, it all depends on what we were going to use the cap space on. If there were a bunch of stud free agents out there that we could definitely sign by moving Childress, I'd do it, but there really aren't.

And of course I'd rather they just amnesty him anyway if that were the case.

It's weird, it seems like half of the people here want to take on bad contracts to get picks, and others want to trade away bad contracts along with picks (which is surprising) like we did with KT.

RunDogGun · Post #780 » by **RunDogGun** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:11 am

Well it's a good sign that Detriot didn't give up the number nine pick with CV, so we can still make the deal. :wink: