Recovery Plan if Dwill walks?

[PetroNet]

So, if dwill does walk, what exactly do we do from there? we'd be looking at:

PG - Farmer - 4.25M
SG - Brooks - 1.2M
SG - Morrow - $4M
PF - J. Williams - .75M
C - Petro - 3.5M

Restricted Rights to Lopez
Nets pick 2013
Rockets pick 2013 (protected top 14)

Thats pretty pathetic. Do we even match a big offer on lopez? Do we throw max deals to gordon, hibbert or other restricted FA's? trade for stars with horrible contracts?

tough spot because we'd need someone to fill a new arena, and we cant really take a build through the draft approach with no picks and a need to be somewhat decent right away.


Thats pretty pathetic

[Brooklyn_Yards]

Brook Lopez for Kyle Lowry and Courtnee Lee. Or Pick up Ramon Sessions.
resign Humphries, Green, and Wallace.
Maybe pick up Iverson to see what he has left and Marketability.
Make play for Steve Nash and Stat (why not put them together again).

[BlueDawn]

Dont come back to Realgm for a few months. Start watching baseball and football.

[N Ireland Nets]

First thing id do is offer the max to Gordon and force NO to match.

I'd keep Farmar, Morrow and Petro so they can be use them as expirings for cap in 2013. Keep Lopez and don't resign Wallace (don't care if he cost a pick take it on the chin) for picks for next years draft and hit the 2013 free agent class hard as hell along with some first rounders.

Offer big 1 year deals to the likes of Hump and AK47, sign Green and Teletovic to long term smaller deals around $2.5m per so it doesn't effect our cap going forward.

There is a hell of alot of talent available in 2013 so just tick over this season with a competitive team and go for some top players in 2013. If we strike out in the 2013 offseason we just rebuild the proper way like we shouldve kept doing with the 12 win team back in the day.

[Jersey Generals]

Start to write Billy's new cover letter for his next job.

[Vitamin]

Sign and trade Dwill for Pau

[vincecarter4pres]

I think Nash is the obvious. I think he's almost a lock to be here if D Will walks, probably on a 3 year deal for $35 to $40 million.

[enetric]

Trying to write a plan B is pointless. Because what we think it should be and what it will be are very different things.

If King loses Dwil and he doesnt get fired...you know what he will do. He will overpay ANYONE he can to put a more marketable product on the floor. He will then look at reporters with a straight face and say something like,

"we wanted Deron to be here and we made every effort to resign him. He chose to leave and we have to move on. We are very excited about so and so that other guy and we believe we have put together an exciting team for our first season in Brooklyn. We look forward to the future and we believe this team has the potential to make the playoffs."

Bottom line is, if we lose Deron, King has shown that he is the type of GM who would rather compound the problem by saddling us with bad contracts than going back to a slow rebuild. That isnt his style. Cap management is his absolute weakness.

Face it. King painted us into a hole. He has to keep Deron and he has to somehow get Dwight to be more than a .500 team any time soon. And odds are high he could create a capped out dissaster of a team that is under .500.

We are in a terrible situation where the long shot of Deron/Howard is his only saving grace.

[vincecarter4pres]

You're on point with everything E.

But I don't even think it matters if King were fired, Proky is not sitting on his hands and slow building at this point. If that was his goal none of this would have ever went down like this at all, including the original Deron trade. He would have never even hired King and instead would have went with a capologist and draft type GM like Pritchard.

The one thing I'll say, I don't see our future the same as you if we keep Deron, but don't get Dwight.

I think we'll make some surprising moves and Brook, Crash, those moves and Deron will be enough to be at worst the 4th best team in the East for a few years that makes it to the 2nd round.

In a word a treadmill.

I don't see a Dwightless team as some automatic below .500 $hithole of a train wreck that misses the playoffs by a couple games every year.

That Dallas game was telling.

When healthy Brook will be a beast with Deron. Never a good two way player or beast in the title aspiration sense in all likelihood, but we'll be like the Kings of the very late 90's to mid 2000's.

At worst like the Cavs of the late 80's to mid 90's.

I'm not saying I agree with that, in fact you know that's not my style, but it's a lot better then some of the other end games that we'll see if Deron flat out bolts and at least will still have the outside shot at a huge trade over the course of the next few years because we'll still be a premier destination for other big name players that are demanding out.

[N Ireland Nets]

You're on point with everything E.

But I don't even think it matters if King were fired, Proky is not sitting on his hands and slow building at this point. If that was his goal none of this would have ever went down like this at all, including the original Deron trade. He would have never even hired King and instead would have went with a capologist and draft type GM like Pritchard.

The one thing I'll say, I don't see our future the same as you if we keep Deron, but don't get Dwight.

I think we'll make some surprising moves and Brook, Crash, those moves and Deron will be enough to be at worst the 4th best team in the East for a few years that makes it to the 2nd round.

In a word a treadmill.

I don't see a Dwightless team as some automatic below .500 $hithole of a train wreck that misses the playoffs by a couple games every year.

That Dallas game was telling.

When healthy Brook will be a beast with Deron. Never a good two way player or beast in the title aspiration sense in all likelihood, but we'll be like the Kings of the very late 90's to mid 2000's.

At worst like the Cavs of the late 80's to mid 90's.

I'm not saying I agree with that, in fact you know that's not my style, but it's a lot better then some of the other end games that we'll see if Deron flat out bolts and at least will still have the outside shot at a huge trade over the course of the next few years because we'll still be a premier destination for other big name players that are demanding out.

I'm telling you guys, if Brook Lopez returns to the Nets next season to play with D Will he will be an All Star in the East. His numbers we very good pre season when he was fully fit and make an effort to focus on defense and rebounding plus he was very aggressive all around.

The 1st pre season game versus the Knicks in which we lost 92-83 Lopez's box score was:


33min 5-11, 11rb (3orb/8d), 5blocks, 2 assists, 1 steal, 15 points

In second game we lost 88-82, Lopez's stats (in the game he broke his foot):

22min 7-12, 9rb (4orb/5d), 1block, 15 points

Those were against one of the best defenders in the NBA and he was going hard. I know this will be his production this season, so long as he's health and has a good training camp. I remember talking to people in the game thread during the 2 pre season games and most if not everyone saw a marked improvement in Lopez's aggressiveness and going after boards while blocking shots.

He will be an All Star with D Will in Brooklyn

[ecuhus1981]

Recovery Plan if Dwill walks?

[ecuhus1981]

Nah, seriously, the Nets will have opportunities to improve the team, if for no other reason than we'd HAVE to find a way to spend all of the capspace we would have. Our FO will probably work their offseason plan in this order:

Option 1: S&T Brook + Dream haul (Williams, Howard, Wallace, Ilyasova, Roy)

Option 2: Keep Brook + Name cache (Nash, Garnett, Kirilenko, Lopez)

Then, we save face in the media by pretending to get into the running for young elite RFAs like Hibbert, Gordon and Batum, before...

Option 3: Mercenaries looking for the biggest buck (Felton, Crawford, Humphries, McGee)

[Born_Ready]

I really want to be optimistic. However-- I'm having a hard time believing Billy King is capable of doing anything promising for the organization at this point.

With that said-- it will be time to panic as soon as Deron's locker is empty (with fans going into riot mode searching for BK for letting all this occur).

Honestly-- I don't trust Billy King to even have a plan ready. His fall back plan may just be to get Steve Nash to Brooklyn asap.

Knowing Billy he probably thinks a broke down Nash will fill the soon to be empty seats in the arena.

Personally, I want to see the team get younger rather than acquire Nash who had more to play with in Phoenix than he would in Brooklyn in my opinion.

[LOUiS-D]

This is not so much a plan as a predicted outcome. I'm guessing it plays out something like:

- Deron walks
- Wallace, Lopez and Green get re-signed
- Farmar opts in
- Sign the best willing and available PF and PG

Lopez - 11 - 14M / Petro
IIyasova or Hump - 8 - 10M / Jordan Williams
Wallace - 10 - 12M / Green 4 - 5M
Brooks / Morrow
2nd Tier Free Agent PG (Sessions / Lou Williams) 6 - 8M / Farmar

and scrubs

With the outside chance of overpaying in a trade for something resembling a marquee player with the few meager assets we have.

[vincecarter4pres]

If Deron walks I'm already imagining something like this:

First off I'd imagine Morrow and Petro are moved with Brooks and the Houston 1st for some middling 1st.

I think they'll take some big man with that pick, whether Sullinger, Jones, Moultrie, Fab Melo, Ezeli, Nicholson, etc.

Then they'll sign Nash to a contract starting at 12.

Resign Wallace starting at 8.5

Sign Mayo starting at 9.

Sign Ilysova starting at 8.5.

Sign Teletovic starting at 4.

Still have Farmar at 4.25.

Still have Jordan Williams at 763K.

Have that pick.

Resign Brook last to a big contract, probably starting at 11.

Resign Green for MMLE.


Nash/Farmar
Mayo/Green/Farmar
Wallace/Green
Ily/Teletovic/1st round pick/Williams
Brook/Teletovic/1st round pick

Meh...

[JoseRizal]

If DWill walks, BK should run... for his life

[LOUiS-D]

Nash has mentioned interest in playing in NY, but he definitely has more of an affinity for the Knicks. I think the only guy we draw at point is a backup point guard who wants more minutes and the exposure of a starting role. That's why I'd guess Mo Williams, Lou Williams and Andre Miller would be more likely to want to sign. We might not want them, but we're not going to be starting Jordan Farmar. BK will overpay for mediocrity before that happens.

[PetroNet]

I think it would go something like this....

Chase Nash, but in the end he takes less and goes to Toronto... in the mean time dragic signs elsewhere and king gives Felton 4 years 32 million.

We chase garnett who retires or goes to the celtics, and as a fall back give the aging antwan jamison 2 years 19 million.

Wallace bends us over a barrell after dwill leaves knowing if king doesnt sign him its just an even bigger failure, he holds out for 5 years 46 million and king gives it to him.

We extend lopez at 9 million per.

we bring back gerald green at 3.5 million, and delfino for another 4 million

we bring back sheldon williams at the minimum

we trade brooks/petro and a future second for the #18 pick and select Andrew Nicholson.

PG - Felton/Farmar
SG - Delfino/Morrow
SF - Wallace/Greem
PF - Jamison/Nicholson
C - Lopez/Sheldon williams

king tells us how "versatile" we are and how this team will compete for the players because its has heart

[LOUiS-D]

Getting Lopez for 9 would be a bargain, but for some reason it wouldn't surprise me. He seems a little aloof and child like in a sweet kind of way. No agent worth their salt is getting him less than 11M as a starting point. Not to mention other teams will pursue him if they have any sense.

[PetroNet]

Getting Lopez for 9 would be a bargain, but for some reason it wouldn't surprise me. He seems a little aloof and child like in a sweet kind of way. No agent worth their salt is getting him less than 11M as a starting point. Not to mention other teams will pursue him if they have any sense.

im not sure pursing lopez makes sense. you'd have to offer him 11-12 million to have any realistic shot of the nets not matching, and during the period to which you make the offer, you cant use that money to sign other free agents.

im not sure you tie up that money in a guy coming off a foot injury when his team is 99% likely to match any offer