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ESPN.com: Houston Rockets trying to trade for Dwight Howard?

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Re: ESPN.com: Houston Rockets trying to trade for Dwight How 

Post#81 » by rocketseagles07 » Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:17 pm

ComeAtMeBro wrote:Who here thinks we'd be better off with #5 & #8 over Dwight?

Dwight obviously will give us a better chance to win now, but unless we can pull in another star, too, I think he'll do what he's done to Orlando, but to us. And this time, will be less patient.

I trust Morey to make the right decisions at #5 & #8. We could pull in quite easily Perry Jones & Andre Drummond. Obviously a lot of risk, but a lot of potential too.

Drummond
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As our future lineup and it depends on Marcus Morris, etc. Parsons I think we should trade now, his value will NEVER be higher, and he's easily replacable. Plus, I think we should try to accommodate a sign & trade with Lee. He's valued league-wide, and IMO he's an average player.


I'm still debating on what would be better. The thing about picks is they're not guaranteed. We can talk all day about picks but its a lot more likely they don't end up as stars. I don't agree on trading parsons after how much growth he had after one year even though I do think people on this board overrated him. As far as lee goes it depends on the price, he's a lockdown defender/streaky but good offensive player, at the right price he's a GREAT backup and a decent starter...
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Re: The cost of Dwight Howard 

Post#82 » by LarsV8 » Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:19 pm

ComeAtMeBro wrote:What good is the amnesty if we have no one to amnesty on our own team?

If we do take bad contracts, we cannot amnesty them.


Luis Scola and/or Kevin Martin

While they are not bad contracts, they are big ones.
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Re: ESPN.com: Houston Rockets trying to trade for Dwight How 

Post#83 » by MaxRider » Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:20 pm

rocketseagles07 wrote:
MaxRider wrote:anyone think this is a smoke screen?


for???????

there news saying portland is high on drummond
if rockets is trying to get #5 pick (right before portland pick) to get drummond
then portland is going have to try to get #4
then whoever supposed to be #4 will fall to #5
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Re: ESPN.com: Houston Rockets trying to trade for Dwight How 

Post#84 » by rocketseagles07 » Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:42 pm

MaxRider wrote:
rocketseagles07 wrote:
MaxRider wrote:anyone think this is a smoke screen?


for???????

there news saying portland is high on drummond
if rockets is trying to get #5 pick (right before portland pick) to get drummond
then portland is going have to try to get #4
then whoever supposed to be #4 will fall to #5


true but cleveland isn't giving up 4 unless they package it with 24 and move up for the 2nd pick.
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Re: ESPN.com: Houston Rockets trying to trade for Dwight How 

Post#85 » by MaxRider » Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:03 pm

i have a feeling this is going to be like 2006 draft where the top 10 picks going to get moved around

1. davis
2. robinson
3. beal
4. drummond (trade to portland)
5. kidd-gilchrist (trade to houston)
6. barnes (trade to cleveland)

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Re: The cost of Dwight Howard 

Post#86 » by inquisitive » Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:15 pm

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LarsV8 wrote:
ComeAtMeBro wrote:If we get Howard, do we have the cap room to pursue Deron? If so, Deron would definitely listen to us.


No way to tell, without knowing the pieces of the Howard trade.

BUT if we don't take back bad contracts as part of the Howard deal, and our amnesty in our back pocket, we have a ton of flexibility.


What good is the amnesty if we have no one to amnesty on our own team?

If we do take bad contracts, we cannot amnesty them.


If we can't get rid of Luis, we could amnesty him....i believe Kmart and Dalembert are expiring deals so probably they can be moved in some way for other expirings(josh smith expiring)? we just need to find a way to clear cap room after getting howard. no way we take on hedu, davis, or jrich's contracts. Once we know what we are giving up for Howard, then we figure out the rest.
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Re: ESPN.com: Houston Rockets trying to trade for Dwight How 

Post#87 » by PocketRockets » Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:50 pm

How is getting Howard going to change anything if we trade away our shooters? If we had 2 solid players and were getting a 3rd then this would work. OKC, Heat, Spurs, Bos. 3-4 solid players and some of those solid players are superstars - rondo, lebron, durant, etc. We are throwing away our draft picks and decent players on one guy that's offensively challenged, not a very good plan. I'd rather take the OKC blueprint to rebuilding this team bc even if we bust we have some flexibility, not one player that bust or not, will probably leave after the next year.
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Re: ESPN.com: Houston Rockets trying to trade for Dwight How 

Post#88 » by MaxRider » Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:05 am

PocketRockets wrote:How is getting Howard going to change anything if we trade away our shooters? If we had 2 solid players and were getting a 3rd then this would work. OKC, Heat, Spurs, Bos. 3-4 solid players and some of those solid players are superstars - rondo, lebron, durant, etc. We are throwing away our draft picks and decent players on one guy that's offensively challenged, not a very good plan. I'd rather take the OKC blueprint to rebuilding this team bc even if we bust we have some flexibility, not one player that bust or not, will probably leave after the next year.

well you added a superstar
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Re: The cost of Dwight Howard 

Post#89 » by texasholdem » Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:08 am

inquisitive wrote:
If we can't get rid of Luis, we could amnesty him....i believe Kmart and Dalembert are expiring deals so probably they can be moved in some way for other

We have a team option on Dalembert
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Re: ESPN.com: Houston Rockets trying to trade for Dwight How 

Post#90 » by bwgood77 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:04 am

Best way to get Williams IF you get Dwight is to try and get him in S&T. If he could get the max from Brooklyn and then get traded, this potentially works out for him AND Brooklyn (Brooklyn gets Dragic and some other pieces.)

I think getting the max deal AND playing with Howard would easily trump going to Dallas to play with Dirk.

I'm just not sure who else would be left on the team after those two trades.
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Re: ESPN.com: Houston Rockets trying to trade for Dwight How 

Post#91 » by Nanogeek » Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:45 am

I really don't understand why the Rockets would give up valuable assets for Howard. The resulting team wouldn't be a contender. And Howard has proven himself to be someone who can't lead a team and can't inspire.
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Re: ESPN.com: Houston Rockets trying to trade for Dwight How 

Post#92 » by MaxRider » Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:23 am

Nanogeek wrote:I really don't understand why the Rockets would give up valuable assets for Howard. The resulting team wouldn't be a contender. And Howard has proven himself to be someone who can't lead a team and can't inspire.

they are just trying to get a star after t-mac and yao
failed to get bosh, melo, deron
now they are trying to get dwight
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Re: ESPN.com: Houston Rockets trying to trade for Dwight How 

Post#93 » by Jetset » Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:25 am

David Aldridge ‏@daldridgetnt
Source: "not a chance" Dwight Howard stays in Houston after next season if traded there. Story up soon on http://NBA.com.


Seems like an awful lot to give up for someone who has no plans on staying does it not?
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Post#94 » by rocketsballin » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:00 am

only way im ok with trading for dwight is if he or deron signs a long contract with us

there's no chance he stays if we dont get deron
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Re: ESPN.com: Houston Rockets trying to trade for Dwight How 

Post#95 » by MaxRider » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:08 am

destro wrote:
David Aldridge ‏@daldridgetnt
Source: "not a chance" Dwight Howard stays in Houston after next season if traded there. Story up soon on http://NBA.com.


Seems like an awful lot to give up for someone who has no plans on staying does it not?

that just make me want him more
keep his xxx here in houston for a season i want to boo him for the whole year
i'm tired all these spoiled athletes
professional my xxx
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Re: ESPN.com: Houston Rockets trying to trade for Dwight How 

Post#96 » by zapatasblood » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:13 am

Do it either way. We get and keep Deron and Howard or get Howard for one year of excitement and do a real rebuild after he bolts. Happy either way. I stand by my belief that Howard is going to Brooklyn and only Brooklyn. Also think Williams is staying in Brooklyn.

But then again if we manage to get two high lotto picks in the top 10 then I would not be against keeping them if it is clear that Williams stays in Brooklyn and keeping Howard is a pipedream which I do think it is.

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Re: ESPN.com: Houston Rockets trying to trade for Dwight How 

Post#97 » by tha_rock220 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:21 am

I'm sorry, but three draft picks is too much to give up with all those players. We're not just giving Orlando talent and cap space, we're also assuming the risk of losing Howard through free agency.
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Re: ESPN.com: Houston Rockets trying to trade for Dwight How 

Post#98 » by MaxRider » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:37 am

rumor we are shipping kevin martin to minnesota for #18 pick
so lowry+???? for top 10 pick
and then send all 4 to orlando for dwight howard o_O
is this worse than 3 first round picks for eddie griffin?
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Re: ESPN.com: Houston Rockets trying to trade for Dwight How 

Post#99 » by rocketsballin » Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:05 am

kevin martin is worth more than an 18th pick
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Re: ESPN.com: Houston Rockets trying to trade for Dwight How 

Post#100 » by Klomp » Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:10 am

MaxRider wrote:rumor we are shipping kevin martin to minnesota for #18 pick

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