The Genius work of Billy King....

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Re: The Genius work of Billy King.... 

Post#41 » by Shaheen » Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:38 am

NY_Kn1cks wrote:
You guys wouldn't have won a few close games without him. Thus you would have been a worse standing wise and likely had a top3 pick.



And you're basing this off what?

We were worse with him and he was injured for a period of time. You don't know what you're talking about.
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Re: The Genius work of Billy King.... 

Post#42 » by DAT TANK » Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:12 am

Is billy king the new Isaiah?
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Re: The Genius work of Billy King.... 

Post#43 » by Caravaggio » Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:04 am

Grinditout wrote:If they can somehow manage to convince Wallace to resign, then it's not too bad of a deal(not a great one but not horrible.)



Really? Why not just pursue him in free agency? It was one of the worst trades ever.
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Re: The Genius work of Billy King.... 

Post#44 » by NY_Kn1cks » Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:12 am

Caravaggio wrote:
Grinditout wrote:If they can somehow manage to convince Wallace to resign, then it's not too bad of a deal(not a great one but not horrible.)



Really? Why not just pursue him in free agency? It was one of the worst trades ever.


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Post#45 » by BlueDawn » Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:14 am

NY_Kn1cks wrote:
:rofl:


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Re: The Genius work of Billy King.... 

Post#46 » by NY_Kn1cks » Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:16 am

BlueDawn wrote:
NY_Kn1cks wrote:
:rofl:


Working over-time today. :dontknow:

yep
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Re: The Genius work of Billy King.... 

Post#47 » by Josephpaul » Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:22 am

The king strikes again
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Re: The Genius work of Billy King.... 

Post#48 » by Fury » Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:23 am

If they tanked they could have easily traded a pick, Lopez, Brooks for Howard. But nah, too easy.
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Post#49 » by VCRJKidd15 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:24 am

Fury wrote:If they tanked they could have easily traded a pick, Lopez, Brooks for Howard. But nah, too easy.
You think that wasn't the original plan? some dumbass decided to sign an opt-in clause instead
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Re: The Genius work of Billy King.... 

Post#50 » by thamadkant » Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:14 am

He would be a genius if he can get a Number 2 pick for Marshon Brooks, Morrow and some unknown future pick....just by taking back an extra "bad" contract...

I mean, there's about 10 teams who can trade better and absorb the "bad" contract... if Billy pulls this one, then he would be a genius....


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Post#51 » by doc.end » Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:56 am

Leeroy Jenkins wrote:
DavidSterned wrote:Been there, done that. Any other sports tragedies you'd like to see play out that the Blazers have somehow managed to miss?


Team moves to Honolulu?

then they would be bound to draft royce white
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Post#52 » by DRose4MVP » Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:12 am

If only there was some way for Billy King to make a trade with Billy King everything would be alright in Brooklyn.
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Post#53 » by nykballa2k4 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:56 pm

Biggest problem is there is no positive way to re-sign Wallace and Lopez and put together a 500 team. Lopez/Wallace/Deron was the same core the Nets had last season, yes, the team, if Humphries is brought back will improve, but the idea is that will future assets, and whoever they pick this year be able to obtain Dwight at the deadline? That is even assuming everything goes perfect meaning Dwight does not go somewhere he likes, Deron stays on etc.

Williams wants a championship, and I believe sign/trades are harder now to execute.

The BEST thing the Nets can do this off-season is make a 3 way sign and trade deal to send Deron to the Lakers for Andrew Bynum, have Bynum go to Houston, have Rockets picks, Lowry and Dalembert come back to NJ. Maybe even have Dalembert go the Lakers instead if there are any assets left there that can be involved... Basically, try to turn Deron into Lowry and 2 first rounder picks.
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Re: The Genius work of Billy King.... 

Post#54 » by Sothron » Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:01 pm

Giving up a lottery pick for less than half a season for an aging wing player that was going to be a free agent at the end of the year on a team that didn't even make the playoffs might be the worst trade I've ever seen in the NBA. People can bring up McHale/Parrish or whatever else but at least there some kind of rational thought in those deals. The Nets could easily have kept that pick and signed Wallace as a free agent if they wanted him so badly. They gave up a valuable trade chip or a good young player for nothing. King panicked when Dwight let Orlando guilt trip his ass. I actually do pity Nets fans.
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Re: The Genius work of Billy King.... 

Post#55 » by MitchellUK » Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:09 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74BzSTQCl_c[/youtube]

I'm picturing Billy King being like this in the Nets' draft night war room. Only instead of "bring me" it will be "trade".
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Re: The Genius work of Billy King.... 

Post#56 » by rmfc » Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:19 pm

PetroNet wrote:Rumors from David aldridge have the nets trying to move up into the top 3 to try and draft Thomas Robinson... Which will certainly take each and every asset the nets have(which isnt a ton).

so basically, this is King's master plan...

STEP 1: Trade a top 6 pick for a 6 week rental of Gwallace.

STEP 2: Trade 2 first round picks, Marshon Brooks, Anthony morrow for the #2 pick, as well as taking back a terrible contract.

brilliant!

part of me wants dwill to walk just so we can fire this guy sooner rather then later.


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Re: The Genius work of Billy King.... 

Post#57 » by whocurrz » Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:05 pm

kombayn wrote:I reserve to say anything bad about Billy King until this D-Will/D-12 mess sorts itself out. I mean Spo was getting killed by everyone on RealGM and people claiming he needed to be fired and now he's an NBA Champion, not one thread have I seen that says Spo didn't earn that championship.


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Re: The Genius work of Billy King.... 

Post#58 » by rapsfanfolife » Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:05 pm

why did dwight howard sign that opt in clause, is he just that indecisive or am I missing some weird CBA thing where he mayekes more money by opting in one more year?
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Re: The Genius work of Billy King.... 

Post#59 » by jeff1624 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:16 pm

nykballa2k4 wrote:Biggest problem is there is no positive way to re-sign Wallace and Lopez and put together a 500 team. Lopez/Wallace/Deron was the same core the Nets had last season, yes, the team, if Humphries is brought back will improve, but the idea is that will future assets, and whoever they pick this year be able to obtain Dwight at the deadline? That is even assuming everything goes perfect meaning Dwight does not go somewhere he likes, Deron stays on etc.

Williams wants a championship, and I believe sign/trades are harder now to execute.

The BEST thing the Nets can do this off-season is make a 3 way sign and trade deal to send Deron to the Lakers for Andrew Bynum, have Bynum go to Houston, have Rockets picks, Lowry and Dalembert come back to NJ. Maybe even have Dalembert go the Lakers instead if there are any assets left there that can be involved... Basically, try to turn Deron into Lowry and 2 first rounder picks.



False.

Brook Lopez played 5 games... none with Wallace. And in the games that both Wallace and Deron played the Nets were 6-5... still not great, but decent when you consider Shelden Williams and Johan Petro were two of our 3 rotational bigs.


We only have 4 players on the roster as of now... I think it's foolish to say with certainty what the nets will or won't do next season when you have no idea what players will be on the roster.
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Re: The Genius work of Billy King.... 

Post#60 » by wigglestrue » Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:52 pm

Giving up a lottery pick for less than half a season for an aging wing player that was going to be a free agent at the end of the year on a team that didn't even make the playoffs might be the worst trade I've ever seen in the NBA.


Yep. Maybe not the highest stakes or the most lopsided, but easily the stupidest trade in NBA history.
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