#12, Brockman, Leuer, SL for #14, Dalembert

BuckPack · Post #141 » by **BuckPack** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:55 pm

mcfromage wrote:Houston's 2nd?

Player. We'll see.

LUKE23 · Post #142 » by **LUKE23** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:55 pm

msiris wrote:Depending on who we draft is how this trade will be viewed. People act like Dalembert is a huge addition, but in all reality he has not that good anymore. People just see the name and think about the past. He is not the same as he used to be folks.

I'd honestly rather play Sanders, but Dalembert is definitely the best C on this team now. He's 31, not 37.

Cooleyo47 · Post #143 » by **Cooleyo47** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:56 pm

Sullinger should be available, but it would be interesting to know if he could still be in play for the Bucks.

Diggr14 · Post #144 » by **Diggr14** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:56 pm

also, any interest in Larry Bird as GM>

Bfinkish · Post #145 » by **Bfinkish** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:57 pm

Looks like rotoworld loves this for us... 8-)

[quote]The Rockets have traded Samuel Dalembert and the No. 14 pick to the Bucks in exchange for the No. 12 pick, Jon Brockman, Jon Leuer and Shaun Livingston.
This seems like a slam dunk for Milwaukee. The draft pick difference is minimal, Brockman and Leuer are both low-end NBA power forwards (an overflowing position for the Bucks), Livingston was expendable, and the Bucks address their most glaring roster need: a quality starting center. Dalembert (who will earn $6.7 million in the final year of his deal) immediately slots into the C position ahead of Ekpe Udoh, Larry Sanders and Drew Gooden, and he should easily exceed the 22 minutes per game he averaged for Houston last season.[/q uote]

A Diddy2231 · Post #146 » by **A Diddy2231** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:57 pm

Buckpack..the additional players coming is it either of Greg Smith or Jeff Adrien?

Post #147 » by **ReasonablySober** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:57 pm

msiris wrote:Depending on who we draft is how this trade will be viewed. People act like Dalembert is a huge addition, but in all reality he is not that good anymore. People just see the name and think about the past. He is not the same as he used to be folks.

He's coming off one of the best seasons in his career.

VinBakersDozen · Post #148 » by **VinBakersDozen** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:57 pm

Dalembert's 7/7/2 on only 22 minutes is really impressive. I hope we plan to play him in a limited starting role like HOU did and give Sanders/Ekpe the majority of the minutes in the 2nd and 3rd.

Badgerlander · Post #149 » by **Badgerlander** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:58 pm

BuckPack wrote:
mcfromage wrote:Houston's 2nd?

Player. We'll see.

Houston doesn't have a second rounder, Motiejunas? Morris?

raferfenix · Post #150 » by **raferfenix** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:58 pm

Dropping Brockman and Leur cleans up our PF mess some. Makes me think we are more likely to resign Ersan now.

And we also have nothing at SG now aside from Ellis since we dealt Livingston. Unless we are getting a guard from the rockets, backing up there is wide open for a young guy to get some clock.

SF we have Moute / Dunlevy / Harris, but we need help there too.

LUKE23 · Post #151 » by **LUKE23** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:58 pm

Guessing the other piece is Craig Smith.

BuckPack · Post #152 » by **BuckPack** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:59 pm

A Diddy2231 wrote:Buckpack..the additional players coming is it either of Greg Smith or Jeff Adrien?

Might not be happening. Wasn't consequential either way.

RiotPunch · Post #153 » by **RiotPunch** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:59 pm

msiris wrote:Depending on who we draft is how this trade will be viewed. People act like Dalembert is a huge addition, but in all reality he is not that good anymore. People just see the name and think about the past. He is not the same as he used to be folks.

12.2 pts / 11.4 rbs / 2.8 bks per 36 minutes last year with a .551 TS% is a nice addition. He's still plenty good as a big man. Not some all-star caliber guy, but a guy who can guard any center in the league effectively and do the dirty work for you on the boards.

europa · Post #154 » by **europa** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:00 pm

Newz wrote:Could the shaving of salary mean that Kohl might be attempting to sell?

That and/or positioning the team to be more attractive for the next GM and head coach.

Newz · Post #155 » by **Newz** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:00 pm

I don't see why anyone would act like Dalembert isn't valuable when you are trying to win games. If our goal is to go for 45-50 wins, he definitely helps. He's a legit C and a mediocre starter or a very good bench player.

Bucksfans1and2 · Post #156 » by **Bucksfans1and2** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:01 pm

So we're not rebuilding???

Badgerlander · Post #157 » by **Badgerlander** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:01 pm

LUKE23 wrote:Guessing the other piece is Craig Smith.

I like Smith a lot, hUge hands, catches the ball in the post one handed for dunks.

RiotPunch · Post #158 » by **RiotPunch** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:01 pm

DrugBust wrote:
msiris wrote:Depending on who we draft is how this trade will be viewed. People act like Dalembert is a huge addition, but in all reality he is not that good anymore. People just see the name and think about the past. He is not the same as he used to be folks.

He's coming off one of the best seasons in his career.

BUT TEH PPGZ IZ SO LOWE

europa · Post #159 » by **europa** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:02 pm

Newz wrote:I don't see why anyone would act like Dalembert isn't valuable when you are trying to win games. If our goal is to go for 45-50 wins, he definitely helps. He's a legit C and a mediocre starter or a very good bench player.

He also means Gooden won't be starting at C and his minutes there should be significantly less in theory. That's obviously huge.

averageposter · Post #160 » by **averageposter** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:02 pm

RiotPunch wrote:
DrugBust wrote:
msiris wrote:Depending on who we draft is how this trade will be viewed. People act like Dalembert is a huge addition, but in all reality he is not that good anymore. People just see the name and think about the past. He is not the same as he used to be folks.

He's coming off one of the best seasons in his career.

BUT TEH PPGZ IZ SO LOWE

A surprising move given the lack of electric swag.