Raptors NBA Draft Thread: 2nd Round Draft Picks

[Morris_Shatford]

Scott Machado & Miles Plumlee

I think both guys while unspectaular can both be end of bench guys who can play at an NBA level now, which means we wont have to throw Forbes/Kleiza money at back-ups, The Spurs have one of the cheapest benches in the NBA because they seem to draft/sign a lot of guys who can play now, rather then guys that have "potential" but need a lot of work to come close to being an NBA player.

If we come out of the second round with two guys who can fill spot 14/15 on the roster and actually play basketball on cheap second round contracts I would be thrilled

[bboyskinnylegs]

I'd like to package the picks to get one of Fournier/Moultrie/Leonard/Wroten/Q.Miller if possible. If we keep the 2nd rounders I like any of Wroten/Teague/Barton/O.Johnson/Satoransky.

[cdel00]

Hollis thompson reminds me of Dell Curry.
Most definately worth INdys pick

Orlando Johnson is my pick for the steal of the draft. He reminds me of Marcus Thornton. Most definatley worth our 2nd.

[deeps6x]

Wow, that would be a bad trade for the raptors trading an 8th pick in Perry Jones? along with Ed Davis, Quincy Miller and maybe Jae Crowder in the second round for a guy like Barnes

Thats too much of steep price to pay to move up only 4 spots.ED Davis will be a good servicable big man and you can find solid players in the second round. If anything BC should try to trade our two second round picks to move up into the 20's.

I definitely agree. Combine the two seconds to move up enough to land Jae Crowder.

Perry Jones with the 8th though? Not so sure about that.

Also, really not a fan of Barnes.

PJIII? Very intriguing. But so are Lamb and Lillard. Waiters is a little further back imho.

[deeps6x]

BC is a big idiot if he just gets rid of these second round picks! alot of potential good nba players. I wouldnt be suprised if a player in the second round becomes very good. Maybe not as good as ginobili but i can easily see some wesley mathews type players. Players who might start for alot of years in the NBA. Why not try to get ourselves one? we wont be winning a championship soon, might as well have some young players on rookie contracts.

All this to say i dont understand the logic of getting rid of second round picks. We cant get much for second round picks and we are basically giving a young potential nba starter to another team if they make the right pick. This second round is very deep too! at least draft them and put them in europe or D-league for a year.

Scott Machado and Jae Crowder please.

[BillyGM]

Jared Cunningham & Will Barton please.

[BillyGM]

Will Barton PER 26.4 EFF/40 24.1
Jae Crowder PER 28.9 EFF/40 27.7
Orlando Johnson
09/10 PER 24.0 EFF/40 20.4
10/11 PER 28.6 EFF/40 24.4
11/12 PER 25.9 EFF/40 20.9

[BillyGM]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TPfskzgpII&feature=relmfu[/youtube]

[Kevin Willis]

Tomas Satoransky.

[Dr Positivity]

I made a short Machado scouting video. I can't imagine someone seeing the plays in this video and not being excited about the prospects of getting him at 37 + our needs

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhGVAw5G3w4[/youtube]

[I_Like_Dirt]

Scott Machado & Miles Plumlee

I think both guys while unspectaular can both be end of bench guys who can play at an NBA level now, which means we wont have to throw Forbes/Kleiza money at back-ups, The Spurs have one of the cheapest benches in the NBA because they seem to draft/sign a lot of guys who can play now, rather then guys that have "potential" but need a lot of work to come close to being an NBA player.

If we come out of the second round with two guys who can fill spot 14/15 on the roster and actually play basketball on cheap second round contracts I would be thrilled

Machado might have a shot at making it in the NBA but I see more of a fring guy who struggles to get drafted and minimum contracts. Plumlee, on the other hand, can't even play at a college level where he could just camp out in the paint as things were just too fast for him. The NBA isn't going to do him any favours by making him move out of the paint every 3 seconds. I'd rather the Raptors just take the money and donate it to a charity of their choice than give guaranteed money to Miles Plumlee. Frankly, there are going to be much better prospects available at 37 than either guy.

[BillyGM]

Scott Machado is very low in some mocks going from 50 to 60, would be steal as I. Thomas if team invests in him, no other way around

My possible likes:
Jared Cunningham - gives team needed explosiveness, similar style of play as Austin Rivers just way more athletic, could develope over the years to be a stud in the league. No wonder some scouts compare his way of play to Russell Westbrook.
Will Barton - incredible statistics in NCAA, those are worth a top 10 pick, plus he's playing in strong conference, reminds of Latrell Sprewell(24th pick) or young Rip Hamilton.
Jae Crowder - had impressive statistics, energetic guy, seems like copy of Kawhi Leonard, oh just look at his huge hands, lol.
DJ Odom - was pushed around alot in NCAA cause of being undersized but he never back downed, not afraid of a contact even though lacks luck in finishing near the basket, was a great 3PT shooter his first years in NCAA, is strong built.
Draymond Green - versatile player, if he loses some weight might be scary SF in the league, must go to a team who will give him time to develope.
Hollis Thompson - still raw player, pure Georgetown breed, is a terrific 3PT shooter, might be next James Jones or even better if given the time and if has working attitude. Needs to learn to be professional.
Khris Middleton - same things as Hollis, just without 3PT.
Orlando Johnson - strong built, NBA ready game, can make a good role player from year one.
Scoop Jardine - might stick long in the league even if goes undrafted, will be a good defender.

[Mascot]

Hopefully

#37 - Tyshawn Taylor
#56 - Darius Johnson Odom

Realistically

#37 - Jae Crowder
#56 - traded to San Antonio for a future 2nd

[Morris_Shatford]

Scott Machado & Miles Plumlee

I think both guys while unspectaular can both be end of bench guys who can play at an NBA level now, which means we wont have to throw Forbes/Kleiza money at back-ups, The Spurs have one of the cheapest benches in the NBA because they seem to draft/sign a lot of guys who can play now, rather then guys that have "potential" but need a lot of work to come close to being an NBA player.

If we come out of the second round with two guys who can fill spot 14/15 on the roster and actually play basketball on cheap second round contracts I would be thrilled

Machado might have a shot at making it in the NBA but I see more of a fring guy who struggles to get drafted and minimum contracts. Plumlee, on the other hand, can't even play at a college level where he could just camp out in the paint as things were just too fast for him. The NBA isn't going to do him any favours by making him move out of the paint every 3 seconds. I'd rather the Raptors just take the money and donate it to a charity of their choice than give guaranteed money to Miles Plumlee. Frankly, there are going to be much better prospects available at 37 than either guy.

Machado (IMO) is one of the best playmakers I have seen in a long time; and he appears coachable.
Its just the rest of his game which needs a lot of work, if the goal is to add a guy like Nash you could end up with worse guys to tutor behind him.

I don't think Plumlee is that bad;
He has all the gifts physically you want in a five, and in the 50's I am of the mindset you roll the dice on the guy who you think you can coach the upside out of.

[Steve Urkel]

I kind of like Jared Cunningham but there are a few things that kind of worry me about him. He's an awful playmaker and often makes bad decisions with the ball, he's not selfish he's just a poor playmaker and probably won't get that much better in that respect. He also needs some work on his jumpshot, especially from 3. I do like him as kind of a Avery Bradley like role player right now and think he could be an effective player in that type of role as he's got a good feel on the defensive end and has great quickness/footspeed. I think overall he's a guy you pick because of his potential.

I still like Machado and more because I think he's a guy who will at least be able to stay in the league as a 3rd string pg at the very least and he's probably going to be better than Carter or Uzoh this past year in that role. He's a guy who shows a good feel for the game on the offensive end and could be an effective player right away. He's going to be a defensive liability but no more so than Calderon and Casey seemed to have found away to control Calderon from being abused on defense this past season.

[BillyGM]

I kind of like Jared Cunningham but there are a few things that kind of worry me about him. He's an awful playmaker and often makes bad decisions with the ball, he's not selfish he's just a poor playmaker and probably won't get that much better in that respect. He also needs some work on his jumpshot, especially from 3. I do like him as kind of a Avery Bradley like role player right now and think he could be an effective player in that type of role as he's got a good feel on the defensive end and has great quickness/footspeed. I think overall he's a guy you pick because of his potential.

I still like Machado and more because I think he's a guy who will at least be able to stay in the league as a 3rd string pg at the very least and he's probably going to be better than Carter or Uzoh this past year in that role. He's a guy who shows a good feel for the game on the offensive end and could be an effective player right away. He's going to be a defensive liability but no more so than Calderon and Casey seemed to have found away to control Calderon from being abused on defense this past season.

Well if there wasn't those worries he would be a possible 5-15 pick.

[Chuck Newhouse]

Draymond Green would be a dream in round 2. I think he could start and be very complimentary and effective as our small forward. Guys who are that size and are way above average at shooting, passing and rebounding are a sure thing in the NBA.

I want him so bad!

[No-lillard]

Machado with #37 ! (obviously)
But i was searching somebody with the #57

Why not Denmon?

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz1z55p6EGJ
Situational statistics

-Marcus Denmon ranks as the most efficient scorer in this analysis, scoring 1.163 points per-possession. Ranking first in catch and shoot jump shots per-game (42.4%), 4th in jump shooting efficiency (1.156 PPP), and posting the second lowest turnover rate among all players in our top-100 (7.7%), Denmon shows well here, even if his low usage in isolation and pick and roll situations raise paint him as strictly as role-player at the next level.

A good shoter is a good shooter
.62 TS% and EFG% .57 are great numbers

[carsoni4]

Tyshawn Taylor please!

And if John Jenkins falls, there's a specialist that I'd find awfully hard to pass on.

[vado]

I can't see the raps bringing in four rookies next year. I'd look to either both the 2nd picks being traded, one of them being traded (hopefully Indy's) or Indy's pick being a Euro to keep overseas.