The Official Draft Thread 2: Judgement Day

YouTube · Post #841 » by **Kerrsed** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:43 am

Ryan Wolstat: Belief seems to be growing the Waiters at 4 stuff is agent-created smoke. Seems like a reach. via Twitter

Revived · Post #842 » by **Revived** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:04 am

jredsaz wrote:
Seriously. 4 NOW!!!!! WTF. I am losing it... Maybe they should have just let him work out and teams would realize he is not Wade.

Of course he's not Wade. Every sportswriter who keeps saying he's gonna be Wade is a COMPLETE idiot and have never watched Waiters play.

Waiters has NO WHERE CLOSE to the athleticism that Wade has. Waiters has scored over 20....ONCE in his entire life!!! He DOESN'T EVEN START ON HIS OWN DAMN TEAM!!

The GM who said that he was like Wade did it on purpose so that other SGs would drop and they can pick up the SGs that drop.

Watch next year, a scrub who is projected to go in the 2nd of most drafts will be called by some "NBA Executive" to be the next LeBron and bunch of clueless people are gonna fall for it too.

Waiters will never ever be close to Wade. You can sig me on that.

Revived · Post #843 » by **Revived** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:05 am

Kerrsed wrote:
Andy Katz: Syracuse's Dion Waiters could be in play at No. 4 to Cleveland, according to those close to Waiters. That would shake up lottery a bit. via Twitter

Don't be surprised. The Cavs reached last year for Tristian Thompson who supposed to go after the lottery.

I can see Cleveland doing it again.

YouTube · Post #844 » by **Kerrsed** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:20 am

sunsfan88 wrote:
Kerrsed wrote:
Andy Katz: Syracuse's Dion Waiters could be in play at No. 4 to Cleveland, according to those close to Waiters. That would shake up lottery a bit. via Twitter

Don't be surprised. The Cavs reached last year for Tristian Thompson who supposed to go after the lottery.

I can see Cleveland doing it again.

I was thinking the same. Other media guys are saying that Cleveland would make sense, as to why he didnt workout for anybody. Number four is a high enough number, as you wont really increase your stock and get into the top 3, specially when you were previously ranked in the mid 20's (pre-promise).

Gorilla Warfare · Post #845 » by **Gorilla Warfare** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:34 am

Just to make this less painful I will be doing this tomorrow.

http://www.takingbadschotz.com/?p=7346

You're welcome.

jcsunsfan · Post #846 » by **jcsunsfan** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:34 am

It is interesting. The players considered reaches last year were Tristan Thompson and Iman Shumpert. Looks to me like guys shoot up the charts for a reason. And they drop for a reason too.

Post #847 » by **ATTL** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:38 am

I would gladly have shump over markief at this point in time.

Revived · Post #848 » by **Revived** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:45 am

Amaretotheline wrote:I would gladly have shump over markief at this point in time.

The guy who gets injured like every 5 mins and can't shoot to save his life?

Nah I'm good.

Gorilla Warfare · Post #849 » by **Gorilla Warfare** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:51 am

sunsfan88 wrote:
Amaretotheline wrote:I would gladly have shump over markief at this point in time.

The guy who gets injured like every 5 mins and can't shoot to save his life?

Nah I'm good.

Post #850 » by **ATTL** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:54 am

sunsfan88 wrote:
Amaretotheline wrote:I would gladly have shump over markief at this point in time.

The guy who gets injured like every 5 mins and can't shoot to save his life?

Nah I'm good.

The guy that showed more on one side of the floor in 10 games than Markieff showed all season on either end.

Edit, also shot better than Markieff this year.

YouTube · Post #851 » by **Kerrsed** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:58 am

Get Nashty wrote:Just to make this less painful I will be doing this tomorrow.

http://www.takingbadschotz.com/?p=7346

You're welcome.

I am SOOOOOOO there with you Bro!!!!

Post #852 » by **lilfishi22** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:14 am

Amaretotheline wrote:
sunsfan88 wrote:
Amaretotheline wrote:I would gladly have shump over markief at this point in time.

The guy who gets injured like every 5 mins and can't shoot to save his life?

Nah I'm good.

The guy that showed more on one side of the floor in 10 games than Markieff showed all season on either end.

Edit, also shot better than Markieff this year.

Say no more.

Revived · Post #853 » by **Revived** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:25 am

Amaretotheline wrote:
sunsfan88 wrote:
Amaretotheline wrote:I would gladly have shump over markief at this point in time.

The guy who gets injured like every 5 mins and can't shoot to save his life?

Nah I'm good.

The guy that showed more on one side of the floor in 10 games than Markieff showed all season on either end.

Edit, also shot better than Markieff this year.

Shumpert shot 40% from the field..Markieff shot 40% from the field.

Shumpert shot 30% from 3pt....Markieff shot 35% from 3pt....

Not sure how Shumpert shot better....

Post #854 » by **lilfishi22** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:32 am

Technically, Shumpert shot 40.1% while Kieff shot 39.9%. Not a big difference or anything but when you compare their position, a big man shouldn't really shooting that kind of percentage.

DirtyDez · Post #855 » by **DirtyDez** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:34 am

The New Orleans Hornets are considering point guard Kendall Marshall with 10th pick
Published: Wednesday, June 27, 2012, 3:35 AM

By John Reid, The Times Picayune
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After North Carolina point guard Kendall Marshall participated in the Hornets’ pre-draft workout last Saturday, he continued to take jump shots from the perimeter as if he was preparing for a game.

Chuck Burton/The Associated PressFormer North Carolina point guard Kendall Marshall, left, averaged 9.8 assists per game last season but only 8.1 points. That apparently has hurt his NBA draft stock, but Coach Monty Williams of the Hornets, who pick 10th, says Marshall can thrive in the right system.

Although Marshall is rated as one of the top available point guards going into Thursday night’s draft, several NBA scouts and general managers have concerns about his shooting ability after he averaged fewer than 8.2 points per game in two seasons with the Tar Heels.

With scorers such as Oklahoma City’s Russell Westbrook, the Los Angeles Clippers’ Chris Paul and Chicago’s Derrick Rose dominating the league, teams now want playmakers who can also take over games with their scoring.

Marshall has tried to show in pre-draft workouts he is prepared to work to become a better shooter.

“I can accept that I need to work on things, and that’s part of getting better and the challenge I look forward to,” Marshall said. “If I was great at everything, I would already be at this level.”

Most NBA scouts and general managers have Weber State point guard Damian Lillard rated ahead of Marshall.

Lillard was one of the top scorers in the nation last season, averaging 24.5 points per game, and he’s been impressive in several pre-draft workouts, which has caused his draft stock to rise.

The Hornets are considering Marshall for their 10th overall pick. He is projected to go anywhere from 11th to 18th. The Phoenix Suns are considering Marshall at No. 13, and some mock drafts have the Dallas Mavericks selecting Marshall with the 17th pick.

“Most point guards need to be in the right system,” Hornets Coach Monty Williams said. “You take the ball out of Steve Nash’s hands and make him run the Princeton offense, he won’t average 10 assists a game. I think that’s the case for most point guards, more so for Kendall because he’s not the fastest guy in the world.

“But he’s crafty, and I think at North Carolina, where he had three or four first-round picks around him, allowed him to be in the system that helped his game.”

At North Carolina, Marshall set up center Tyler Zeller and forwards John Henson and Harrison Barnes for shots. Zeller, Henson and Barnes are all projected lottery picks. The Hornets are seriously considering Zeller with their 10th pick to fill their void at center.

“I’m going to do what it takes for my team to win,” Marshall said. “Scoring 20 points wouldn’t have been my job. The strength of my game is getting guys involved.”

Marshall was initially scheduled to participate in a Hornets workout earlier this month but was forced to skip because of a slow-healing wrist injury that occurred at the end of last season. Marshall said his wrist is still not fully healed and he plans to resume rehabilitation after the draft so he can participate in the Las Vegas Summer League.

Williams said Marshall didn’t show any problems in their workout.

“I think he can play,” Williams said. “He has a nose for the situation; he sees plays before they happen. He’s competitive, and I put him in situations where I wanted him to whine a bit. He didn’t whine at all; he just kept playing.”

The Hornets will conduct their final pre-draft workouts today, holding two separate sessions at the Alario Center. The Hornets continue to target players for the 10th pick and 46th pick. New Orleans is expected to select Kentucky power forward Anthony Davis with the No. 1 overall pick.

YouTube · Post #856 » by **Kerrsed** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:54 am

I would be ecstatic if the Hornets took Marshall. But the thing is, this reeks of a smoke-screen to me.

sunskerr · Post #857 » by **sunskerr** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:55 am

^
Toronto gets Rivers and Nawlins goes with Marshall? Or they could trade down.

Gorilla Warfare · Post #858 » by **Gorilla Warfare** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:19 am

If the Hornets took Marshall at 10 they would win the draft, 3 years from now they will be deadly especially if they keep Gordon.

gaspar · Post #859 » by **gaspar** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:48 am

the Hornets could draft Tornike Shengelia at #10 and they would still "win the draft"

YouTube · Post #860 » by **Kerrsed** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:11 am

Here is my Draft Day Mock version 1.0